BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) I got this in an email today. I’m not sure of the validity of any of the statements in this, but I thought it was interesting. Before I get attacked for posting this: I am not saying any of this is true, or that I agree with it. I am simply posting this for discussion purposes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE JUXTAPOSITION OF FACTS....A USEFUL PERSPECTIVE....... A question of perspective : Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?..... think about it. Would the country's collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following: What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review? What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class? What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee? What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards? What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married? What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization? What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard? What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.) What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker? What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter? What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes? What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem? What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution? What if the Obamas had adopted a white child? You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference. Educational Background: Barack Obama: Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude Joseph Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. John McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899 Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. Edited October 22, 2008 by BigBlueAlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainman74 12 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 That should be the post of the year! This should be the biggest landslide victory in history, but still yet it close. I'll always be democrat, but even some of my republican buddies cant take McCain serious with his choice of VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 So many things are left out of this email... Like what if McCain had ties with Ayers, Retzko and others while lying about them... What if McCain was Black? He would win in a landslide. What if McCain only had less than a year in the senate? (taking into the fact that Obama has been on the campaign trail) What if McCain was the representative of a state who currently has had a failed economic policy? (Illinois) What if the media was for John McCain? What if 90+% of one minority voted for John McCain? What if McCain was getting votes from voter fraud? What if McCain trained ACORN workers? What if Michelle Obama created 55 mission trips to foreign countries to help with medical conditions? What if Cindy McCain said that for the first time in her life she felt patriotic while her husband was running? What if Joe Biden was hated by the media? ------------------------------------------------------ Now its time to present the facts... John McCain crashed 1, I repeat ONE plane. Another was engine failure, another was when a rocket malfunctioned and blew up numerous planes including McCain's and killed 134. The fourth was when he was shot down and was taken as a POW. There were no 5th 6th or 7th like the email says... McCain was not a member of the keating 5. He met with them twice, and was punished for it. He went to look after a major business in his state, along with 4 DEMOCRATIC leaders. John McCain met Cindy McCain at a military reception in Hawaii, not a bar. John McCain says leaving his first wife was one of the worst decisions he has ever made. She also will be voting for him and says she has no bitterness. He did not leave her for disfigurement. McCain, while having a temper, does not have a SERIOUS anger management problem. Signs of this problem is outlined in a medical journal by threats and harm to others as well as animals, none of which McCain has done. ------------------------------------------------------- The email has tons of mistakes in it, as you can see. And as for education, even though John McCain finished low in his class, do you all realize how hard it is to get into the Military/Naval/Airforce Academy? I was nominated to Westpoint, one of only 5 from WV each year. Its extrememly hard. And just for reference, for all you Bush haters, he went to Yale. School doesnt matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 That should be the post of the year! This should be the biggest landslide victory in history, but still yet it close. I'll always be democrat, but even some of my republican buddies cant take McCain serious with his choice of VP. What has Sarah Palin done that some one could not respect her? And if you say experience, well she has more than Obama... Ive posted all the things she has done numerous times, I just want to hear her failed policies please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 THE JUXTAPOSITION OF FACTS....A USEFUL PERSPECTIVE....... Too bad no facts are presented to juxtapose against others.... This thread is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 So many things are left out of this email... Like what if McCain had ties with Ayers, Retzko and others while lying about them... What if McCain was Black? He would win in a landslide. What if McCain only had less than a year in the senate? (taking into the fact that Obama has been on the campaign trail) What if McCain was the representative of a state who currently has had a failed economic policy? (Illinois) What if the media was for John McCain? What if 90+% of one minority voted for John McCain? What if McCain was getting votes from voter fraud? What if McCain trained ACORN workers? What if Michelle Obama created 55 mission trips to foreign countries to help with medical conditions? What if Cindy McCain said that for the first time in her life she felt patriotic while her husband was running? What if Joe Biden was hated by the media? ------------------------------------------------------ Now its time to present the facts... John McCain crashed 1, I repeat ONE plane. Another was engine failure, another was when a rocket malfunctioned and blew up numerous planes including McCain's and killed 134. The fourth was when he was shot down and was taken as a POW. There were no 5th 6th or 7th like the email says... McCain was not a member of the keating 5. He met with them twice, and was punished for it. He went to look after a major business in his state, along with 4 DEMOCRATIC leaders. John McCain met Cindy McCain at a military reception in Hawaii, not a bar. John McCain says leaving his first wife was one of the worst decisions he has ever made. She also will be voting for him and says she has no bitterness. He did not leave her for disfigurement. McCain, while having a temper, does not have a SERIOUS anger management problem. Signs of this problem is outlined in a medical journal by threats and harm to others as well as animals, none of which McCain has done. ------------------------------------------------------- The email has tons of mistakes in it, as you can see. And as for education, even though John McCain finished low in his class, do you all realize how hard it is to get into the Military/Naval/Airforce Academy? I was nominated to Westpoint, one of only 5 from WV each year. Its extrememly hard. And just for reference, for all you Bush haters, he went to Yale. School doesnt matter. Hammer meet nail. Case in point. Excellent work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 So many things are left out of this email... Like what if McCain had ties with Ayers, Retzko and others while lying about them... What if McCain was Black? He would win in a landslide. What if McCain only had less than a year in the senate? (taking into the fact that Obama has been on the campaign trail) What if McCain was the representative of a state who currently has had a failed economic policy? (Illinois) What if the media was for John McCain? What if 90+% of one minority voted for John McCain? What if McCain was getting votes from voter fraud? What if McCain trained ACORN workers? What if Michelle Obama created 55 mission trips to foreign countries to help with medical conditions? What if Cindy McCain said that for the first time in her life she felt patriotic while her husband was running? What if Joe Biden was hated by the media? ------------------------------------------------------ Now its time to present the facts... John McCain crashed 1, I repeat ONE plane. Another was engine failure, another was when a rocket malfunctioned and blew up numerous planes including McCain's and killed 134. The fourth was when he was shot down and was taken as a POW. There were no 5th 6th or 7th like the email says... McCain was not a member of the keating 5. He met with them twice, and was punished for it. He went to look after a major business in his state, along with 4 DEMOCRATIC leaders. John McCain met Cindy McCain at a military reception in Hawaii, not a bar. John McCain says leaving his first wife was one of the worst decisions he has ever made. She also will be voting for him and says she has no bitterness. He did not leave her for disfigurement. McCain, while having a temper, does not have a SERIOUS anger management problem. Signs of this problem is outlined in a medical journal by threats and harm to others as well as animals, none of which McCain has done. ------------------------------------------------------- The email has tons of mistakes in it, as you can see. And as for education, even though John McCain finished low in his class, do you all realize how hard it is to get into the Military/Naval/Airforce Academy? I was nominated to Westpoint, one of only 5 from WV each year. Its extrememly hard. And just for reference, for all you Bush haters, he went to Yale. School doesnt matter. POST OF THE YEAR!!! Thanks for straightening out this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 POST OF THE YEAR!!!Thanks for straightening out this mess. What if I ran for President....:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Ok then since we are putting emails out there that may or may not be true, i got this one the other day. Any anyone tell me if it's true?? Subject: Very interesting - a must read A friend sent me this. I was frightened about this election before but this makes me terrified! This is is my Mom's letter. I found it very profound and thought provoking. Honestly my Mom and I rarely see eye to eye on Politics, different generations, ideals. But my mind and heart are in much turmoil over this election and our futures and the futures of our children. I thought all of you may find this interesting. Pass it on, delete it...but please read it. Thanks Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 11:39 AM To All My Friends, this is very important, please take the time to read it. This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since then. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking "where did the money come from for Obama". I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed money" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million. With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported that Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things". Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama, on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, he said "he made a mistake". Some mistake! All of the above information I got online. If you would like to check it Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; TheTimes May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our "intelligent" members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - "Beware of the enemy from within"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 What if I ran for President....:D A Hokie in the White House, oh my! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbgfan 856 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 This was a letter to the editor in the Bristol Herald Courier today and thought I would pass along. "Let us crunch some numbers that you can easily check for yourself. In the first seven months on this year, there have been 221 American casualities in Iraq and for the same seven months there have been 291 murders in Chicago. The sales tax rate in Chicago is 10.25 percent, which is the highest in the country, according to the Chicago Tribune. The state pension funds for the state of Illinois is $44 billion in the red. The city of Chicago has one of the worst rated school systems in the country. Chicago holds the second highest metropolitan foreclosure rate in the nation and Illinois is ranked 12th. Illinois wants their Senator to be our president. Now if that is not enought to scare you, then listen to this. From this state political culture that includes Barack Obama, you also have Sen. Durbin, the mayor of Chicago, the state Attorney General and Congressman Jessee Jackson, Jr. They all want to help Obama run this country because they are all Democrats. So who is to blame for the mess in Illinois? No matter which party you claim, these politicians are not the same Democrats and Republicans that our grandparents had to choose from nor does either Obama or John McCain have all the answers. Obama's answers may be easy on the ears with all the free promises of handouts, but they smell rotten and they will leave a bad aftertaste that will last for generations to come. Do you really think Obama can fix the mess in Washington when the mess in his own state is out of control too? John McCain is for life. John McCain is for family. John McCain is for values. McCain is not perfect, but he is the best choice we have for America." Dennis Houser Bristol, Tenn. Life has many choices---eternity has two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 A Hokie in the White House, oh my! ;) No, the "Maroon & Orange" House...:D... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublue 939 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) That should be the post of the year! This should be the biggest landslide victory in history, but still yet it close. I'll always be democrat, but even some of my republican buddies cant take McCain serious with his choice of VP. What has Sarah Palin done that some one could not respect her? And if you say experience, well she has more than Obama... Ive posted all the things she has done numerous times, I just want to hear her failed policies please... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: The article is from CBS ........ I'm surprised with all of Joe's experience and expertise (the reason Mr. O chose him as his as his VP) that he's "shying" away from the media. October 22, 2008 Biden's Traveling Press Corps Finds Little Opportunity To Ask Him Questions (CBS)From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro: (COLORADO SPRINGS, COLO.) - It might be surprising to some to learn that Sarah Palin is now talking to her national press corps more often than Joe Biden. While the once silent Palin has taken questions from reporters that travel with her three times in the last week, Biden has not offered the same type of access to reporters who cover his every move on the campaign trail in almost two months. As for comments that Biden made last weekend in Seattle about Obama facing an "international, generated crisis" in his first six months, Biden has said nothing more on the matter. Republicans jumped at the chance to attack Biden for his words, saying it showed Barack Obama had yet to be tested with a major crisis, and the McCain campaign in particular vowed to make “a big deal” out of the remarks, which made their way to the top of the conservative leaning Drudge Report for most of Monday and, among others, have been dissected by columnist Bill Kristol and leading conservative voices. Biden spokesperson David Wade said on Tuesday that Biden had no plans to revisit those statements. Obama, when asked today about Biden’s statement, called them “rhetorical flourishes.” The handful of reporters from Biden’s national press corps who have followed him incessantly for two months have not had the opportunity to ask questions regarding the "crisis" matter - even to allow Biden to clarify his remarks - because he has not taken questions or held a press availability with his press corps since Sept. 7. Last month in Akron, Biden chided McCain and Palin for not holding such availabilities with the press. “I got asked a question by the press this morning, er, yesterday,” Biden told the crowd last month. “I've done a lot of press, I've done, I don't know, I was told I did 68, 70 press conferences, and the person says, ‘What do you think about Sarah Palin?’ I said, ‘When she does three, I'll let you know, I don't know, I don't have any idea, I don't know, I don't know.’ You know, I mean, look, and it's not, look guys, it's not just Sarah Palin, when's the last time John, when's the last time John's had a press conference? I'm serious." Biden was factually incorrect – he had conducted at the time over 80 interviews, not press conferences, ranging from local newspapers to network morning shows, with an appearance on NBC’s "Meet the Press" and a dozen interviews with major networks and newspapers. And to belatedly answer Biden’s question, it has been 55 days since he held a press conference. He has held two since being named Obama’s running mate. Biden has also not taken questions from voters in a town hall style setting since Sept. 10 in Nashua, New Hampshire, when he told a supporter that Hillary Clinton might have been a better pick for vice president. Since then, Biden has only held “community gatherings” and “rallies” where he makes a speech and chats briefly with supporters on the ropeline under the blare of music, no questions asked. Even there, Biden says very little after a digital recorder caught him making statements on clean coal that did not coincide with Obama’s energy policies. He told Jay Leno on “The Tonight Show” that it was the reason he stays mum when greeting voters, hoping to avoid making comments that might be publicized and used against Obama. "Look, I've made many a gaffe in my life, and I suspect I'll make a whole lot more," he told Leno. "But you do worry. You know, I was on a rope…you go down what they call a rope line. You make a speech; there's four, five, six thousand people, and they line up and you shake hands. And everybody has, not everybody, a lot of people have cameras, and they have these little video phones…so I learned to just go, ‘Mm, mm, mm, mm.’ Walk down the line. I don't say anything anymore." On the day of the final debate, reporters had to interrupt Biden as he waited for a hamburger during a photo-op at a diner in Ohio to ask questions. Asked dozens of times when Biden would take formally questions from the national reporters who have been following him, Wade said Biden instead favors one-on-one interviews and would hold a press availability “when we have some news to make.” Edited October 22, 2008 by trublue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Too bad no facts are presented to juxtapose against others.... This thread is useless. Why is it useless? This is a disscussion board...right? I posted it so people like Beavertail could shoot it down. lol I knew he would and that's fine, becuase thats what he likes to do. There have been 12 replies to it thus far, so it dosn't seem to be very "useless" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I posted it so people like Beavertail could shoot it down. lol I knew he would and that's fine, becuase thats what he likes to do. You caught me! Keep em coming Big Blue, I really enjoy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 You caught me! Keep em coming Big Blue, I really enjoy it! I knew you would. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I started looking into Obama's life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. Obama did have 2 roommates of the names you mentioned, and did take a trip to pakistan... From the NY Times... "According to his campaign staff, Mr. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, on the way back from Indonesia, where his mother and half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, were living. He spent “about three weeks†there, Mr. Obama’s press secretary, Bill Burton, said, staying in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, but also traveling to Hyderabad, in India" Obama did not mention the travels in the books. Speaking of Illegals like we were before, one of Obamas Pakistani friends while in college... In “Dreams from My Father,†he talks of having a Pakistani roommate when he moved to New York, a man he calls Sadik who “had overstayed his tourist visa and now made a living in New York’s high-turnover, illegal immigrant work force, waiting on tables.†(NY Times) Obama claims “I knew what Sunni and Shia was before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,†which shows he went over there... When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. Obama claims he changed his name during the summer of '81, which would prove true to the email, although his sister claims it was christmas of '80. Obama and his wife used student loans... Why chicago? Now that is a question I can not answer and may have a shady answer... By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? All true. Once again he used student loans. After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed money" for his U.S. Senate race. All correct. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million. With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. According to Obama, he made it off royalties from his book, which with its success is entirely possible. I found no information about the loan that was credible to Retzko... Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? Correct. She was born in Iran. November 14th, 1956. On May 10, 2008 The Times reported that Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things". As for Robert Malley, he had ties with Hamas. The story was first broke by the BBC, and eerily a little while later he was sacked. I cant find anything about the "take care of things" quote... Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? According to Chandoo's personal website, (Obama's roommate) He has donated around 100,000 to the campaign from a bundle from his business, and 2,609 of his own money to the campaign. And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama, on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, he said "he made a mistake". Some mistake! 100% true. ----------------------------------- Just a side note I found on my own while looking this up... anyone remember the whole "Ive visited 57 states" remark by Obama? Well there are 57 states of Islam. Im just saying, thats kinda scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighton_3 10 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 POW or college dopehead? Why is it so hard for people to choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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