Get out the vote??

[Guest JJBrickface]

Is this what we should be really doing?? I have heard my whole life about no matter who you vote for its important to vote. I think that is correct, but has it gotten to the point where people are just voting to be voting. How many American voters actually know the facts? There was one video posted on here earlier about Obama supporters who were still willing to vote for him even after the interviewer used McCains policies as if they were Obamas opinion. Do we really need to get the vote out when its people like this that are voting? I don't care if they are voting for Obama or McCain, either way its an irresponsible and ignorant action to vote in that manner.

[Deleted Account 5,203]

Is this what we should be really doing?? I have heard my whole life about no matter who you vote for its important to vote. I think that is correct, but has it gotten to the point where people are just voting to be voting. How many American voters actually know the facts? There was one video posted on here earlier about Obama supporters who were still willing to vote for him even after the interviewer used McCains policies as if they were Obamas opinion. Do we really need to get the vote out when its people like this that are voting? I don't care if they are voting for Obama or McCain, either way its an irresponsible and ignorant action to vote in that manner.

 

How many Americans can tell you Obama's stance upon the Commerce Clause? How about McCain's view of the Tenth Amendment? What about Obama's stance on the Detainee Treatment Act? How about McCain's view on separation of powers?

 

There are a ton of big issues that no one speaks on, and neither candidate has spoken on, because it's not a media-friendly affair. But these are the issues that affect so much of what the government actually does, and does for us as citizens and for the nation around the world. I bet 20% of lay-people cannot answer this truthfully. It's a shame, considering what the true issues are.

[Hacker 82]

Well we have done it to ourselves. Our schools don't emphasize Civics and Government, because they are not important SOLs. We allow ourselves to be spoon fed by the media which just shills the tripe the campaigns want us to hear. We sit by apathetically while Congress and whatever administration does what they please without talking to them and holding them accountable.

 

The sad truth is as high as turnout will be on Tuesday, it will still pale in comparison to most of the other countries of the world.

[futbolking 766]

How many Americans can tell you Obama's stance upon the Commerce Clause? How about McCain's view of the Tenth Amendment? What about Obama's stance on the Detainee Treatment Act? How about McCain's view on separation of powers?

 

There are a ton of big issues that no one speaks on, and neither candidate has spoken on, because it's not a media-friendly affair. But these are the issues that affect so much of what the government actually does, and does for us as citizens and for the nation around the world. I bet 20% of lay-people cannot answer this truthfully. It's a shame, considering what the true issues are.

 

People are concerned with issues that affect them...they could care less about things that don't affect them. I'll be one of the first to admit, that I'm looking out for # 1. and it's too bad if I step in or on # 2.

[GMan 3,569]

"We the Sheeple of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union..."

[Deleted Account 5,203]

Well we have done it to ourselves. Our schools don't emphasize Civics and Government, because they are not important SOLs. We allow ourselves to be spoon fed by the media which just shills the tripe the campaigns want us to hear. We sit by apathetically while Congress and whatever administration does what they please without talking to them and holding them accountable.

 

The sad truth is as high as turnout will be on Tuesday, it will still pale in comparison to most of the other countries of the world.

 

The average turnout in Canada is 78%. France-81%.

It's a true shame.

[Deleted Account 5,203]

People are concerned with issues that affect them...they could care less about things that don't affect them. I'll be one of the first to admit, that I'm looking out for # 1. and it's too bad if I step in or on # 2.

 

But the thing is, those little things DO affect you. They affect the companies you work for, how you are classified as a worker, the tax bracket you reside in. Those little things affect good old #1. And we're never informed of them.

[Hacker 82]

When you step in #2 it just spreads the stink.

 

 

People are concerned with issues that affect them...they could care less about things that don't affect them. I'll be one of the first to admit, that I'm looking out for # 1. and it's too bad if I step in or on # 2.

[trublue 939]

This is for all the McCain supporters that will cast their votes tomorrow:

 

 

McCAIN CAMPAIGN MEMO: READING THE EXIT POLLS

BILL McINTURFF, INTERNAL POLLSTER

Mon Nov 03 2008 16:53:14 ET

 

As we have seen in previous election cycles, the exit poll results do leak early and that ends up influencing the coverage of the race before even the first state polls close at 6:00 PM Eastern.

 

However, we want to remind the campaign that the media’s own post-election study of the exit polls in 2004 showed that the exit polls overstate the Democratic candidate’s support. Therefore, we would discourage a rush to judgment based on the exit polls and wait until there has been a representative sampling of actual tabulated results from a variety of counties and precincts in a state.

 

Here are the key points to keep in mind when the exit poll data starts being leaked:

 

1. Historically, exit polls have tended to overstate the Democratic vote.

 

2. The exit polls are likely to overstate the Obama vote because Obama voters are more likely to participate in the exit poll.

 

3. The exit polls have tended to skew most Democratic in years where there is high turnout and high vote interest like in 1992 and 2004.

 

4. It is not just the national exit poll that skews Democratic, but each of the state exit polls also suffers from the same Democratic leanings.

 

5. The results of the exit polls are also influenced by the demographics of the voters who conduct the exit polls.

 

After the 2004 election, the National Election Pool completed a study investigating why the exit polls that year showed John Kerry over performing 5.5 net points better than the actual results showed him to have done. Their conclusion was that the primary reason the exit polls was that Kerry voters and Democrats were more likely to participate in the exit polls.

 

“Our investigation of the differences between the exit poll estimates and the actual vote count point to one primary reason: in a number of precincts a higher than average Within Precinct Error most likely due to Kerry voters participating in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters. There has been partisan overstatements in previous elections, more often overstating the Democrat, but occasionally overstating the Republican.

 

We believe that this will hold true this year. The recent Fox News survey showed that 46% of Obama voters said they were very likely to participate in the exit polls, while just 35% of McCain supporters are.

 

In fact, even the 2004 exit poll report noted that higher turnout nationally and higher levels of voter interest in both 1992 and 2004 correlated with greater Within Precinct Error.

 

The overstating of the Democratic vote did not only occur in the national exit polls, but also occurred in the state exit polls. The 2004 exit poll report cited that the Kerry vote was overstated by more than one standard error in 26 states, while the Bush vote was overstated in just four states. So we should also expect the individual state exit polls on Tuesday to be more Democratic as well.

 

So given that turnout is expected to be even higher than 2004 and that Democrats are more likely to participate in the exit polls, this means we should expect greater fluctuation and variation in the exit polls from the actual election results.

 

The 2004 exit poll report also showed that the greatest error in the exit poll came in precincts where the interviewer was younger. The completion rates were lower and the refusal rates and Within Precinct Error was higher when the interviewers were under the age of 35.[6] Complicating this is that nearly half the interviewers were under the age of 35, including 35% who were 18-24 and another 15% were 25-34.

 

Conclusions

 

Based on the previous exit poll results, we should expect once again that Tuesday’s exit poll data could overstate the Obama vote and under represent the McCain vote.

 

It is important that the campaign make sure the media realizes this, so that when the exit polls do leak, people do not overreact to the early exit poll data. Rather than looking at the exit polls, we should wait until we start seeing actual election results from key precincts and counties to gauge who won the election.

[Beaverteeth 10]

Before all you SWVA residence rush to the polls watch this video. Hope your jobs are not linked to coal bizz. May be in trouble. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

as I wrote in a different post about oct. 28th and some soldier or marine dying for the country that day, fortunately noone actually was k.i.a. the 28th in the u.s. military, but some were k.i.a. the 27th and the day after, on the 29th

 

 

 

 

"Army Sgt. Scott J. Metcalf

 

36, of Framingham, Mass.; assigned to the 1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.; died Oct. 29 in Balad, Iraq"

 

 

it's a good thing there are some Americans willing to sacrifice for the good of the country, instead of only being concerned about themselves, in this case sacrificing everything, while many can't sacrifice even small things for it. They aren't sacrificing for a socialist society to be ruled by government either.

 

There fact is there's only 1 presidential vote in this election that benefits the principals of freedom and independence that this country was founded on and that so many have died for.....