Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 "Whether you admit it or not, the economy was in serious trouble due to the worst president in the history of the US, Jimmy Carter." George W. has surpassed Carter for that honor...And I'm pretty sure that Carter could actually pronounce the word "nuclear". How do you explain the economic disaster we're experiencing today...do you want to blame that one on Clinton? If you want to blame that on one party, or especially one man, you truly show your ignorance to economics. Economists have posted numerous MAJOR reasons why it failed, not to mention the hundreds of minor reasons. Please answer my question about how increasing taxes on businesses will raise wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 "Honestly, I believe the only people who have "question marks" about him...are the people supporting McCain". I think you might be right about that futbolking. That's the reason Obama won the Democratic nomination, nobody cared enough to ask any questions. I have asked questions about him many times here, and I have yet to get an answer from any Obama supporter.. So see if you can answer this question about Barak Hussein Obama: "WHAT HAS BHO ACCOMPLISHED IN HIS POLITICAL CAREER TO QUALIFY HIM TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"? Answer that, and there will be no more questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 And another thing....Unemployment went as high as 14% during Reagan's administration... No really? I think I mentioned that before. Hmm. Maybe you should check. I said it was due to Carter. It raised that high in 1981-82 after Carters admin. Who brought it down? The cowboy, Ronald Reagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 And most economists are endorsing Obama's plan over McCain's... Oh yeah...thought you would like this...from the Biography of Ronald Reagan... "Although inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 5.1% in 1982, a severe recession set in, with unemployment exceeding 10% in October, 1982 for the first time in forty years" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Here's another nugget about your hero..... "The budget deficit was exacerbated by a trade deficit. Americans continued to buy more foreign-made goods than they were selling. Reagan, however adhered to his free trade stance, and signed an agreement to that effect with Canada. He also signed, reluctantly, trade legislation designed to open foreign markets to U.S. goods." ahhhhh....those were the good ole days.... And should I bring up the Iran-Contra affair??? talk about foreign policy....here's a guy who actually signed off on selling arms to the Iranians.... Edited October 30, 2008 by futbolking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 And most economists are endorsing Obama's plan over McCain's... Oh yeah...thought you would like this...from the Biography of Ronald Reagan... "Although inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 5.1% in 1982, a severe recession set in, with unemployment exceeding 10% in October, 1982 for the first time in forty years" HAHA. there you go again. The majority does not make you right. And just because you call yourself an economists on the internet doesnt mean you are one. This is rediculous. Reagan fixed all of that. Dont you understand? It was lower when he left than what it was before. What more do you want. He fixed the crisis. Comprehend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Here's another nugget about your hero..... "The budget deficit was exacerbated by a trade deficit. Americans continued to buy more foreign-made goods than they were selling. Reagan, however adhered to his free trade stance, and signed an agreement to that effect with Canada. He also signed, reluctantly, trade legislation designed to open foreign markets to U.S. goods." ahhhhh....those were the good ole days.... Who loves free trade? Bill Clinton. Who did Obama call on to help him with the Economy? Bill Clinton. NAFTA ring a bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Futbolking. Please answer this question. If you increase taxes on businesses, how can wages rise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Futbolking. Please answer this question. If you increase taxes on businesses, how can wages rise? I never said INCREASE taxes on businesses...I said give businesses a tax BREAK for keeping jobs in America...... Now you're starting to sound like McCain did in the debates..... Wages and jobs are created due to a business putting out a quality product and an increase in demand......not because of taxes... Edited October 30, 2008 by futbolking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I never said INCREASE taxes on businesses...I said give businesses a tax BREAK for keeping jobs in America...... Obama said increase taxes on businesses. You said you support Obama right. Are you sure you want to vote for him considered you have pretty much agreed that more taxes on businesses does not relate to higher wages? Unless you can come up with an answer, but I havent seen it yet. Once again, Obama does not have a tax break for corporations keeping jobs in America. Wages rise due to a business putting out a quality product and an increase in demand......not because of taxes... Exactly. Your getting almost it now. You make more of a profit right? More money to spend right? That equals higher wages and more jobs. Reducing Taxes gives you more money as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Obama said increase taxes on businesses. You said you support Obama right. Are you sure you want to vote for him considered you have pretty much agreed that more taxes on businesses does not relate to higher wages? Unless you can come up with an answer, but I havent seen it yet. Once again, Obama does not have a tax break for corporations keeping jobs in America. Exactly. Your getting almost it now. You make more of a profit right? More money to spend right? That equals higher wages and more jobs. Reducing Taxes gives you more money as well... I see your point, but you'll never get me to agree with you....lol....that would just be unethical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Now you're starting to sound like McCain did in the debates..... [/qUOTE] Please get a reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I see your point, but you'll never get me to agree with you....lol....that would just be unethical... Time to change your vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Economists who support John McCains plan for jobs. Economists Who Have Signed The Statement: Burton Abrams, University of Delaware James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Douglas K. Adie, Ohio University Richard Agnello, University of Delaware William Albrecht, University of Iowa Constantine Alexandrakis, University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth William Alpert, University of Connecticut Wayne Angell, Former Fed Governor Fernando E. Alvarez, University of Chicago Geoffrey T. Andron, Austin Community College George R. Averitt, Purdue University North Central Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay Howard Beales, George W ashington University Stacie E. Beck, University of Delaware Gary Becker, University of Chicago Donald Bellante, University of South Florida Daniel K. Benjamin, Clemson University John J. Bethune, Barton CollegeSanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado Andrew G. Biggs, American Enterprise Institute Robert G. Bise, Orange Coast College Michael K. Block, University of Arizona Donald Booth, Chapman University Karl J. Borden, University of Nebraska Michael Bordo, Rutgers University George H. Borts, Brown University Mich ael Boskin, Stanford University Daniel P. Brandt III, Washington, D.C. Ike Brannon, Department of the Treasury David P. Brown, University of Wisconsin-Madison Jeff Brown, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Joseph Brusuelas, Merk Investments Phillip J. Bryson, Brigham Young University Andrzej Brzeski, University of California, Davis James Buchanan, George Mason University Todd Buchholz, Two Oceans Management Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College Richard V. Burkhauser, Cornell University James B. Burnham, Duquesne University Andr ew B. Busch, BMO Capital Markets James L. Butkiewicz, University of Delaware Mark Calabria, United States Senate James Carter, Vienna, VA Don Chance, Louisiana State University Barry R. Chiswick, University of Illinois at Chicago Bhagwan Chowdhry, UCLA Richard Clarida, Columbia University Candice Clark, Economic consultant Kenneth W. Clarkson, University of Miami Warren Coats, IMF, retired John Cogan, Hoover Institution Boyd D. Collier, Tarleton State University Michael Connolly, University of Miami Kathleen B. Cooper, Southern Methodist University Joshua Coval, Harvard University Ted Covey, McLean, Virginia Nicole Crain, Lafayette College W. Mark Crain, Lafayette College Dan Crippen, Former CBO Director Thomas D. Crocker, University of Wyoming Robert L. Crouch, University of California, Santa Barbara Mario J. Crucini, Vanderbilt University Ward S. Curran, Trinity College Coldwell Daniel III, The University of Memphis Antony Davies, Duquesne University Steven Davis, University of Chicago Clarence R. Deitsch, Ball State University Richard DeKaser, National City Corporation Stephen J. Dempsey, University of Vermont Christopher DeMuth, American Enterprise Institute David B.H. Denoon, New York University William G. Dewald, Ohio State University Arthur M. Diamond Jr., University of Nebraska at Omaha John Diamond, Rice University David L. Dickinson, Appalachian State University Francis X. Diebold, University of Pennsylvania Jeffrey H. Dorfman, University of Georgia Thomas J. Duesterberg, Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI Parnell Duverger, Broward Community College Isaac Ehrlich, SUNY at Buffalo Martin Eichenbaum, Northwestern University Jeffrey A. Eisenach, Criterion Economics Michael A. Ellis, Kent State University Joachim G. Elterich, University of Delaware Kenneth Elzinga, University of Virginia Stephen J. Entin, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation T.W. Epps, University of Virginia Michael G. Erickson, The College of Idaho Paul Evans, Ohio State University Dino Falaschetti, Hoover Institution Frank Falero Jr., California State University Susan K. Feigenbaum, University of Missouri, St. Louis Martin Feldstei n, Harvard University Eric Fisher, California Polytechnic State University Arthur A "Trey" Fleisher III, Metro State College of Denver James Forcier, University of San Francisco William F. Ford, Middle Tenn. State U. Michele Fratianni, Indiana University Luke Froeb, Vanderbilt University Kenneth C. Froewiss, NYU Stern School of Business Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Hudson Institute Timothy S. Fuerst, Bowling Green State University Lowell Gallaway, Ohio University B Delworth Gardner, Brigham Young University Dave Garthoff, The University of Akron Ilhan K. Geckil, Anderson Economic Group Rick Geddes, Cornell University Joseph A. Giacalone, St. John's University Adam Gifford, California State University, Northridge David Gillette, Truman State University Micha Gisser, University of New Mexico Amy Jocelyn Glass, Texas A&M University Charles J. Goetz, The University of Virginia Claudio Gonzalez-Vega, The Ohio State University Lawrence Goodman, Bergen City, NJ Barry K. Goodwin, North Carolina State University Eric S. Graber, Independent Economist Douglas H. Graham, The Ohio State University J. Edward Graham, University of North Carolina Wilmington Phil Gramm, Former U.S. Senator Teresa Beckham Gramm, Rhodes College Wendy Lee Gramm William B. Green, Sam Houston State University Kenneth Greene, Binghamton University Paul Gregory, University of Houston Earl Grinols, Baylor University Gary Hansen, UCLA Eric Hanushek, Hoover Institution Stephen Happel, Arizona State University James E. Hartley, Mount Holyoke College Kevin Hassett, American Enterprise Institute Joel W. Hay, University of Southern California Jared E. Hazleton, Texecon: A Texas Economic Consulting Firm Charles E. Hegji, Auburn University Montgomery Robert H. Heidt, Indiana University School of Law Harold M. Hochman, CUNY Graduate Center and Lafayette College Robert J. Hodrick, Columbia Business School Stuart G. Hoffman, The PNC Financial Services Group Arlene Holen, Washington, D.C. Mac R. Holmes, Troy University Douglas Holtz-Eakin, John McCain 2008 C. Thomas Howard, University of Denver E. Philip Howrey, University of Michigan Glenn Hubbard, Columbia University James L. Huffman, Lewis & Clark Law School J. Christopher Hughen, University of Denver E. Kingdon Hurlock, Calvert Investment Counsel Stephen L. Jackstadt, University of Alaska, Anchorage Joseph M. Jadlow, Oklahoma State University Sherry L Jarrell, Wake Forest University Michael C. Jensen, Harvard Business School Dennis A. Johnson, University of South Dakota Shane A. Johnson, Texas A&M University Richard Just, University of Maryland Tim Kane, Washington, D.C. Steven Kaplan, University of Chicago Graduate School of Business Alexander Katkov, Johnson and Wales University Melissa Kearney, University of Maryland Joe Kennedy, Arlington, Virginia Lawrence W. Kenny, University of Florida Calvin A. Kent, Marshall University E. Han Kim, University of Michigan Robert G. King, Boston University Paul R. Koch, Olivet Nazarene University Meir Kohn, Dartmouth College James W. Kolari, Texas A&M University Roger C. Kormendi, Kormendi/Gardner Partners Marvin Kosters, American Enterprise Institute Robert Krol, California State University, Northridge Anne Krueger, Johns Hopkins University Deepak Lal, University of Cal ifornia, Los Angeles Douglas Lamdin, The University of Maryland, Baltimore County Daniel L Landau, University of Connecticut Richard La Near, Missouri Southern State University Nicholas A. Lash, Loyola University Don R. Leet, California State University, Fresno Norman B. Lefton, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Tom Lehman, Indiana Wesleyan University Thomas M. Lenard, Technology Policy Institute Noreen E. Lephardt, Marquette University Adam Lerrick, Carnegie Mellon University and the American Enterprise Institute Philip I. Levy, American Enterprise Institute W. Cris Lewis, Utah State University Andrew Light, Liberty University Jane Lillydahl, University of Colorado at Boulder Zheng Liu, Emory University Luis Locay, University of Miami John R. Lott Jr., University of Maryland Lawrence W. Lovik, Alabama Policy Institute Robert Lucas, University of Chicago John Lunn, Hope College R. Ashley Lyman, University of Idaho Paul W. MacAvoy, Yale School of Management Glenn MacDonald, Washington University in St. Louis John Makin, American Enterprise Institute Burton Malkiel, Princeton University David Malpass, Encima Global LLC Michael Marlow, California Polytechnic State University Donald J. Marshall, Consulting Engineer and Economist Aparna Mathur, American Enterprise Institute Timothy Matthews, Kennesaw State University John Matsusaka, University of Southern California Bennett McCallum, Carnegie Mellon University Paul W. McCracken, University of Michigan Martin C. McGuire, University of California-Irvine W. Douglas McMillin, Louisiana State University Roger Meiners, University of Texas - Arlington Will Melick, Kenyon College Allan Meltzer, Ca rnegie Mellon University John Merrifield, University of Texas at San Antonio Paul Merski, Independent Community Bankers of America Jim Mietus, Great Falls, VA Todd Milbourn, Washington University in St. Louis Geoffrey P. Miller, New York University Law School James Miller, George Mason University and The Hoover Institution William C. Miller, Pioneer Analytics LLC David E. Mills, University of Virginia Velma Montoya, National Council of Hispanic Women Michael Moore, George Washington University Charles Britt Moss, University of Florida Robert Mundell, Columbia University Tim Muris, George Mason University David B. Mustard, University of Georgia Richard F. Muth, Emory University Anthony N. Negbenebor, Gardner-Webb University Charles Nelson, University of Washington Robert J. Newman, Louisiana State University Michael P. Niemira, International Council of Shopping Centers Tom O'Brien, University of Connecticut Lee E. Ohanian, UCLA June O'Neill, Baruch College, CUNY Steve Parente, University of Minnesota Randall Parker, East Carolina University Douglas Patterson, Virginia Tech Tim Perri, Appalachian State University Mark J. Perry, University of Michigan-Flint Tomas Philipson, University of Chicago William Poole, University of Delaware Michael E. Porter, Harvard Business School Barry Poulson, University of Colorado Boulder James Prieger, Pepperdine University R. David Ranson, H. C. Wainwrigth & Co. Economics Inc. Richard Rawlins, Missouri Southern State University Martin A. Regalia, Gaithersburg, Maryland Barrie Richardson, Centenary College Christine P. Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology Aldona Robbins, Fiscal Associates Gary Robbins, Fiscal Associates Kenneth Rogoff, Harvard University Richard Roll, UCLA Harvey Rosen, Princeton University Larry L. Ross, University of Alaska, Anchorage Robert Rossana, Wayne State University Timothy P. Roth, The University of Texas at El Paso Charles Rowley, George Mason University Paul H. Rubin, Emory University Roy Ruffin, University of Houston Gary J. Santoni, Ball State University T.R. Saving, Texas A&M University Mike Schuyler, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation Anna Schwartz, National B ureau of Economic Research Loren C. Scott, Louisiana State University Robert Haney Scott, California State University, Chico Carlos Seiglie, Rutgers University Richard Selden, University of Virginia John Semmens, Laissez Faire Institute Sol S. Shalit, University of Wisconsin Alan Shapiro, University of Southern California Judy Shelton William F. Shughart II, The University of Mississippi George Shultz, Hoover Institution Jerome Siebert, University of California, Berkeley John Silvia, Wachovia Chuck Skipton, University of Tampa Scott B. Smart, Indiana University Amy Smith, Former OMB Chief Economist James F. Smith, The University of North Carolina Vernon Smith, Chapman University Sean M. Snaith, University of Central Florida Douglas Southgate, Ohio State University Frank Spreng, McKendree University Beryl W. Sprinkel, Retired Stan Spurlock, Mississippi State University George J. Staller, Cornell University Craig A. Stephenson, Babson College Houston Stokes, University of Illinois at Chicago Courtenay C. Stone, Ball State University Scott Sumner , Bentley College James Sweeney, Stanford University Richard Sweeney, Georgetown University Robert Tamura, Clemson University Clifford Tan, Stanford Center for International Development John A. Tatom, Indiana State University John Taylor, Stanford University Paul Taylor, Vienna, VA Teresa Tharp, Valencia Community College Clifford F. Thies, Shenandoah University Henry Thompson, Auburn University Walter N. Thurman, North Carolina State University Jerry G. Thursby, Georgia Institute of Technology Robert D Tollison, Clemson University William N. Trumbull, West Virginia University Kamal Upadhyaya, University of New Haven Charles W. Upton, Kent State University Peter J Van Blokland, University of Florida T. Norman Van Cott, Ball State University Richard Vedder, American Enterprise Institute George J. Viksnins, Georgetown University J. Antonio Villamil, The Washington Economics Group Richard E. Wagner, George Mason University William B. Walstad, University of Nebraska-Lincoln Murray Weidenbaum, Washington University in St. Louis Marc D. Weidenmier, Claremont McKenna College Finis We lch, Texas A&M University James B. Whitaker, Centreville, VA John Wicks, University of Montana Wayne H. Winegarden, Arduin, Laffer & Moore Econometrics Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College DeVo L. Yoho, Ball State University Nancy A. Yonge, Smith Center for Private Enterprise Paul J. Zak, Claremont Graduate University Mokhlis Y. Zaki, Northern Michigan University Mark Zandi, Malvern, PA Arnold Zellner, University of Chicago Kate Zhou, University of Hawaii Joseph Zoric, Franciscan University of Steubenville Benjamin Zycher, Manhattan Institute for Policy Research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Time to change your vote. No can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Here's some quality reading for you....The "economist's poll of economists" http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127 Read it and weep. I particularly like this little nugget... "AS THE financial crisis pushes the economy back to the top of voters’ concerns, Barack Obama is starting to open up a clear lead over John McCain in the opinion polls. But among those who study economics for a living, Mr Obama’s lead is much more commanding" OH and this is interesting too... "Mr McCain gets his highest mark, an average of 3.5 and a clear advantage over Mr Obama, for his position on free trade and globalisation"....wow...imagine that... Edited October 30, 2008 by futbolking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Economists who support John McCains plan for jobs. Economists Who Have Signed The Statement: Burton Abrams, University of Delaware James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Douglas K. Adie, Ohio University Richard Agnello, University of Delaware William Albrecht, University of Iowa Constantine Alexandrakis, University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth William Alpert, University of Connecticut Wayne Angell, Former Fed Governor Fernando E. Alvarez, University of Chicago Geoffrey T. Andron, Austin Community College George R. Averitt, Purdue University North Central Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay Howard Beales, George W ashington University Stacie E. Beck, University of Delaware Gary Becker, University of Chicago Donald Bellante, University of South Florida Daniel K. Benjamin, Clemson University John J. Bethune, Barton CollegeSanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado Andrew G. Biggs, American Enterprise Institute Robert G. Bise, Orange Coast College Michael K. Block, University of Arizona Donald Booth, Chapman University Karl J. Borden, University of Nebraska Michael Bordo, Rutgers University George H. Borts, Brown University Mich ael Boskin, Stanford University Daniel P. Brandt III, Washington, D.C. Ike Brannon, Department of the Treasury David P. Brown, University of Wisconsin-Madison Jeff Brown, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Joseph Brusuelas, Merk Investments Phillip J. Bryson, Brigham Young University Andrzej Brzeski, University of California, Davis James Buchanan, George Mason University Todd Buchholz, Two Oceans Management Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College Richard V. Burkhauser, Cornell University James B. Burnham, Duquesne University Andr ew B. Busch, BMO Capital Markets James L. Butkiewicz, University of Delaware Mark Calabria, United States Senate James Carter, Vienna, VA Don Chance, Louisiana State University Barry R. Chiswick, University of Illinois at Chicago Bhagwan Chowdhry, UCLA Richard Clarida, Columbia University Candice Clark, Economic consultant Kenneth W. Clarkson, University of Miami Warren Coats, IMF, retired John Cogan, Hoover Institution Boyd D. Collier, Tarleton State University Michael Connolly, University of Miami Kathleen B. Cooper, Southern Methodist University Joshua Coval, Harvard University Ted Covey, McLean, Virginia Nicole Crain, Lafayette College W. Mark Crain, Lafayette College Dan Crippen, Former CBO Director Thomas D. Crocker, University of Wyoming Robert L. Crouch, University of California, Santa Barbara Mario J. Crucini, Vanderbilt University Ward S. Curran, Trinity College Coldwell Daniel III, The University of Memphis Antony Davies, Duquesne University Steven Davis, University of Chicago Clarence R. Deitsch, Ball State University Richard DeKaser, National City Corporation Stephen J. Dempsey, University of Vermont Christopher DeMuth, American Enterprise Institute David B.H. Denoon, New York University William G. Dewald, Ohio State University Arthur M. Diamond Jr., University of Nebraska at Omaha John Diamond, Rice University David L. Dickinson, Appalachian State University Francis X. Diebold, University of Pennsylvania Jeffrey H. Dorfman, University of Georgia Thomas J. Duesterberg, Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI Parnell Duverger, Broward Community College Isaac Ehrlich, SUNY at Buffalo Martin Eichenbaum, Northwestern University Jeffrey A. Eisenach, Criterion Economics Michael A. Ellis, Kent State University Joachim G. Elterich, University of Delaware Kenneth Elzinga, University of Virginia Stephen J. Entin, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation T.W. Epps, University of Virginia Michael G. Erickson, The College of Idaho Paul Evans, Ohio State University Dino Falaschetti, Hoover Institution Frank Falero Jr., California State University Susan K. Feigenbaum, University of Missouri, St. Louis Martin Feldstei n, Harvard University Eric Fisher, California Polytechnic State University Arthur A "Trey" Fleisher III, Metro State College of Denver James Forcier, University of San Francisco William F. Ford, Middle Tenn. State U. Michele Fratianni, Indiana University Luke Froeb, Vanderbilt University Kenneth C. Froewiss, NYU Stern School of Business Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Hudson Institute Timothy S. Fuerst, Bowling Green State University Lowell Gallaway, Ohio University B Delworth Gardner, Brigham Young University Dave Garthoff, The University of Akron Ilhan K. Geckil, Anderson Economic Group Rick Geddes, Cornell University Joseph A. Giacalone, St. John's University Adam Gifford, California State University, Northridge David Gillette, Truman State University Micha Gisser, University of New Mexico Amy Jocelyn Glass, Texas A&M University Charles J. Goetz, The University of Virginia Claudio Gonzalez-Vega, The Ohio State University Lawrence Goodman, Bergen City, NJ Barry K. Goodwin, North Carolina State University Eric S. Graber, Independent Economist Douglas H. Graham, The Ohio State University J. Edward Graham, University of North Carolina Wilmington Phil Gramm, Former U.S. Senator Teresa Beckham Gramm, Rhodes College Wendy Lee Gramm William B. Green, Sam Houston State University Kenneth Greene, Binghamton University Paul Gregory, University of Houston Earl Grinols, Baylor University Gary Hansen, UCLA Eric Hanushek, Hoover Institution Stephen Happel, Arizona State University James E. Hartley, Mount Holyoke College Kevin Hassett, American Enterprise Institute Joel W. Hay, University of Southern California Jared E. Hazleton, Texecon: A Texas Economic Consulting Firm Charles E. Hegji, Auburn University Montgomery Robert H. Heidt, Indiana University School of Law Harold M. Hochman, CUNY Graduate Center and Lafayette College Robert J. Hodrick, Columbia Business School Stuart G. Hoffman, The PNC Financial Services Group Arlene Holen, Washington, D.C. Mac R. Holmes, Troy University Douglas Holtz-Eakin, John McCain 2008 C. Thomas Howard, University of Denver E. Philip Howrey, University of Michigan Glenn Hubbard, Columbia University James L. Huffman, Lewis & Clark Law School J. Christopher Hughen, University of Denver E. Kingdon Hurlock, Calvert Investment Counsel Stephen L. Jackstadt, University of Alaska, Anchorage Joseph M. Jadlow, Oklahoma State University Sherry L Jarrell, Wake Forest University Michael C. Jensen, Harvard Business School Dennis A. Johnson, University of South Dakota Shane A. Johnson, Texas A&M University Richard Just, University of Maryland Tim Kane, Washington, D.C. Steven Kaplan, University of Chicago Graduate School of Business Alexander Katkov, Johnson and Wales University Melissa Kearney, University of Maryland Joe Kennedy, Arlington, Virginia Lawrence W. Kenny, University of Florida Calvin A. Kent, Marshall University E. Han Kim, University of Michigan Robert G. King, Boston University Paul R. Koch, Olivet Nazarene University Meir Kohn, Dartmouth College James W. Kolari, Texas A&M University Roger C. Kormendi, Kormendi/Gardner Partners Marvin Kosters, American Enterprise Institute Robert Krol, California State University, Northridge Anne Krueger, Johns Hopkins University Deepak Lal, University of Cal ifornia, Los Angeles Douglas Lamdin, The University of Maryland, Baltimore County Daniel L Landau, University of Connecticut Richard La Near, Missouri Southern State University Nicholas A. Lash, Loyola University Don R. Leet, California State University, Fresno Norman B. Lefton, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Tom Lehman, Indiana Wesleyan University Thomas M. Lenard, Technology Policy Institute Noreen E. Lephardt, Marquette University Adam Lerrick, Carnegie Mellon University and the American Enterprise Institute Philip I. Levy, American Enterprise Institute W. Cris Lewis, Utah State University Andrew Light, Liberty University Jane Lillydahl, University of Colorado at Boulder Zheng Liu, Emory University Luis Locay, University of Miami John R. Lott Jr., University of Maryland Lawrence W. Lovik, Alabama Policy Institute Robert Lucas, University of Chicago John Lunn, Hope College R. Ashley Lyman, University of Idaho Paul W. MacAvoy, Yale School of Management Glenn MacDonald, Washington University in St. Louis John Makin, American Enterprise Institute Burton Malkiel, Princeton University David Malpass, Encima Global LLC Michael Marlow, California Polytechnic State University Donald J. Marshall, Consulting Engineer and Economist Aparna Mathur, American Enterprise Institute Timothy Matthews, Kennesaw State University John Matsusaka, University of Southern California Bennett McCallum, Carnegie Mellon University Paul W. McCracken, University of Michigan Martin C. McGuire, University of California-Irvine W. Douglas McMillin, Louisiana State University Roger Meiners, University of Texas - Arlington Will Melick, Kenyon College Allan Meltzer, Ca rnegie Mellon University John Merrifield, University of Texas at San Antonio Paul Merski, Independent Community Bankers of America Jim Mietus, Great Falls, VA Todd Milbourn, Washington University in St. Louis Geoffrey P. Miller, New York University Law School James Miller, George Mason University and The Hoover Institution William C. Miller, Pioneer Analytics LLC David E. Mills, University of Virginia Velma Montoya, National Council of Hispanic Women Michael Moore, George Washington University Charles Britt Moss, University of Florida Robert Mundell, Columbia University Tim Muris, George Mason University David B. Mustard, University of Georgia Richard F. Muth, Emory University Anthony N. Negbenebor, Gardner-Webb University Charles Nelson, University of Washington Robert J. Newman, Louisiana State University Michael P. Niemira, International Council of Shopping Centers Tom O'Brien, University of Connecticut Lee E. Ohanian, UCLA June O'Neill, Baruch College, CUNY Steve Parente, University of Minnesota Randall Parker, East Carolina University Douglas Patterson, Virginia Tech Tim Perri, Appalachian State University Mark J. Perry, University of Michigan-Flint Tomas Philipson, University of Chicago William Poole, University of Delaware Michael E. Porter, Harvard Business School Barry Poulson, University of Colorado Boulder James Prieger, Pepperdine University R. David Ranson, H. C. Wainwrigth & Co. Economics Inc. Richard Rawlins, Missouri Southern State University Martin A. Regalia, Gaithersburg, Maryland Barrie Richardson, Centenary College Christine P. Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology Aldona Robbins, Fiscal Associates Gary Robbins, Fiscal Associates Kenneth Rogoff, Harvard University Richard Roll, UCLA Harvey Rosen, Princeton University Larry L. Ross, University of Alaska, Anchorage Robert Rossana, Wayne State University Timothy P. Roth, The University of Texas at El Paso Charles Rowley, George Mason University Paul H. Rubin, Emory University Roy Ruffin, University of Houston Gary J. Santoni, Ball State University T.R. Saving, Texas A&M University Mike Schuyler, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation Anna Schwartz, National B ureau of Economic Research Loren C. Scott, Louisiana State University Robert Haney Scott, California State University, Chico Carlos Seiglie, Rutgers University Richard Selden, University of Virginia John Semmens, Laissez Faire Institute Sol S. Shalit, University of Wisconsin Alan Shapiro, University of Southern California Judy Shelton William F. Shughart II, The University of Mississippi George Shultz, Hoover Institution Jerome Siebert, University of California, Berkeley John Silvia, Wachovia Chuck Skipton, University of Tampa Scott B. Smart, Indiana University Amy Smith, Former OMB Chief Economist James F. Smith, The University of North Carolina Vernon Smith, Chapman University Sean M. Snaith, University of Central Florida Douglas Southgate, Ohio State University Frank Spreng, McKendree University Beryl W. Sprinkel, Retired Stan Spurlock, Mississippi State University George J. Staller, Cornell University Craig A. Stephenson, Babson College Houston Stokes, University of Illinois at Chicago Courtenay C. Stone, Ball State University Scott Sumner , Bentley College James Sweeney, Stanford University Richard Sweeney, Georgetown University Robert Tamura, Clemson University Clifford Tan, Stanford Center for International Development John A. Tatom, Indiana State University John Taylor, Stanford University Paul Taylor, Vienna, VA Teresa Tharp, Valencia Community College Clifford F. Thies, Shenandoah University Henry Thompson, Auburn University Walter N. Thurman, North Carolina State University Jerry G. Thursby, Georgia Institute of Technology Robert D Tollison, Clemson University William N. Trumbull, West Virginia University Kamal Upadhyaya, University of New Haven Charles W. Upton, Kent State University Peter J Van Blokland, University of Florida T. Norman Van Cott, Ball State University Richard Vedder, American Enterprise Institute George J. Viksnins, Georgetown University J. Antonio Villamil, The Washington Economics Group Richard E. Wagner, George Mason University William B. Walstad, University of Nebraska-Lincoln Murray Weidenbaum, Washington University in St. Louis Marc D. Weidenmier, Claremont McKenna College Finis We lch, Texas A&M University James B. Whitaker, Centreville, VA John Wicks, University of Montana Wayne H. Winegarden, Arduin, Laffer & Moore Econometrics Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College DeVo L. Yoho, Ball State University Nancy A. Yonge, Smith Center for Private Enterprise Paul J. Zak, Claremont Graduate University Mokhlis Y. Zaki, Northern Michigan University Mark Zandi, Malvern, PA Arnold Zellner, University of Chicago Kate Zhou, University of Hawaii Joseph Zoric, Franciscan University of Steubenville Benjamin Zycher, Manhattan Institute for Policy Research Don't forget to add Mickey Mouse and Goofy to that list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 No can do. Too proud? Too stubborn? Im here to help. Not hurt. When you go into that voting booth, think about it. Can increasing taxes on business really create better jobs and wages? And if they make more money, Obama wants to tax it. Remember how you said increase in demand and better products create more money? Well thats profit. And Obama wants to tax profit with the Capitol Gains Taxes. So even if businesses make money, they will be taxed more. That doesnt look good for your wages. Clinton cut the Capitol gains taxes, McCain wants to. Obama deems is "not fair". In 1997, when it was cut, revenues soared to 40+%. Obama looks like he will help the economy, or should i say sounds like it. But when you put it to paper and history, he will greatly hurt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Here's some quality reading for you....The "economist's poll of economists" http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127 Read it and weep. I particularly like this little nugget... "AS THE financial crisis pushes the economy back to the top of voters’ concerns, Barack Obama is starting to open up a clear lead over John McCain in the opinion polls. But among those who study economics for a living, Mr Obama’s lead is much more commanding" OH and this is interesting too... "Mr McCain gets his highest mark, an average of 3.5 and a clear advantage over Mr Obama, for his position on free trade and globalisation"....wow...imagine that... You dont get it do you... Majority fallacy: If the majority of people think its right, it doesnt mean it really is. Obama isnt for or against free trade. What a shocker. Not being able to make a stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Don't forget to add Mickey Mouse and Goofy to that list... Just dont forget the 5 Nobel prizes for economics as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Im not responding to your copy and paste bullcrap until you can answer ONE question. How does raising taxes on businesses and raising taxes on their profits raise wages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Im not responding to your copy and paste bullcrap until you can answer ONE question. How does raising taxes on businesses and raising taxes on their profits raise wages? I'm not going to argue that it will....My argument is for providing incentives for tax breaks for corporations who keep jobs in America....Again, I see and actually agree on your point there....my disagreements lie elsewehere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm not going to argue that it will....My argument is for providing incentives for tax breaks for corporations who keep jobs in America....Again, I see and actually agree on your point there....my disagreements lie elsewehere... Thats what I thought. There is no need to have those incentives, as long as you give ALL businesses tax breaks, and capitol gains breaks, there will be no need to send jobs overseas. However, we have to realize we dont just sell products domestically, we sell them globally. A large percent of our profit comes from other countries. So naturally with the increase of the internet and other things creating a global community, some jobs have to go overseas. While I agree that jobs shouldnt go overseas as much as they do, just stopping them wont help unemployment. Jobs wont increase. We have to help businesses gain enough capitol to increase those things, with tax cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Thats what I thought. There is no need to have those incentives, as long as you give ALL businesses tax breaks, and capitol gains breaks, there will be no need to send jobs overseas. However, we have to realize we dont just sell products domestically, we sell them globally. A large percent of our profit comes from other countries. So naturally with the increase of the internet and other things creating a global community, some jobs have to go overseas. While I agree that jobs shouldnt go overseas as much as they do, just stopping them wont help unemployment. Jobs wont increase. We have to help businesses gain enough capitol to increase those things, with tax cuts. I disagree. I believe that businesses will send jobs overseas to make their bottom line better (tax cuts or no tax cuts) and the CEO's of these corporations are heartless bastages who don't give a damn about Americans having jobs...they'll rake in as much dough as possible and take an early retirement and hop around from home to home while the rest of us worry about how we're going to pay our bills...that's just the way I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) I disagree. I believe that businesses will send jobs overseas to make their bottom line better (tax cuts or no tax cuts) and the CEO's of these corporations are heartless bastages who don't give a damn about Americans having jobs...they'll rake in as much dough as possible and take an early retirement and hop around from home to home while the rest of us worry about how we're going to pay our bills...that's just the way I feel. And I understand why. The Liberal media. But however, if you truly want to know the truth, in 2000 CEOs made more money than now. They made more money in the Clinton Administration. If you hate CEOs so much, you must love ol' George, he brought down the ratio of CEO's pay to the average workers pay from 525 to 364. During the Reagan Admin. it was 42. Clinton started at around 110, ended at 525. Once again, Bill Clinton is helping Obama with economics. ALFCIO provided the information. Edited October 31, 2008 by BEAVERTAIL Sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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