Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 How can you overcome something that is out of your control? How can you control a player making a contested three point prayer? How can you control a very good free throw shooter to hit his free throws in the final seconds?? So it is what it is. Its the NCAA tournament, once again several coaches struggle to consistently making it past the first few rounds. PERIOD. So basically you cant control how your team plays the entire, lets say 39 minutes before that? Even so, you start practice 6 months earlier for this reason. Preparation is everything in the last minutes. OR You could recruit smart players who know the game and how to play in the last minutes... It has been noted that Huggins has struggled at this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy10 10 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Bob Knight has 3 NCAA titles, 1 NIT title, and coached the USA to a Gold Medal in 1984. Thats a coach who has a very good postseason record. Horrible choice to prove your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 1999–2000 15-14 8-8 4th (American) NIT 1st Round 2000–2001 15-14 9-7 3rd (American) 2001–2002 26-7 13-3 2nd (American) NCAA 1st Round 2002–2003 27-6 14-2 1st (American) NCAA Final Four 2003–2004 19-12 8-8 8th NIT Quarterfinals 2004–2005 19-12 7-9 9th NIT 1st Round 2005–2006 20-11 10-6 T-4th NCAA 1st Round 2006–2007 24-10 10-6 T-5th NCAA 1st Round 2007–2008 25-10 11-7 T-5th NCAA 2nd Round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 So basically you cant control how your team plays the entire, lets say 39 minutes before that? Even so, you start practice 6 months earlier for this reason. Preparation is everything in the last minutes. OR You could recruit smart players who know the game and how to play in the last minutes... It has been noted that Huggins has struggled at this before. So every basketball game you expect to have a comfortable lead with one minute to play? Also, once again you neglect what I said before. Who said they didn't know how to play? Did the player miss the free throws on purpose because he didn't know how to play? Did the Cincy player contest the Jarrod West 3 point prayer because it was the wrong thing to do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 You cant be serious. Look at what you are asking. Did he miss it on purpose? haha. Comfortable lead? Nope. But during that time somewhere you should be able to control your players and lead them. The way you talk its the blind leading the blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 2003–2004 31-5 13-3 1st NCAA Sweet 162004–2005 20-9 10-6 5th NCAA 1st Round 2005–2006 25-8 10-6 T-4th NCAA 2nd Round 2006–2007 29-8 12-4 T-2nd NCAA Sweet 16 2007–2008 27-10 10-8 7th NCAA 2nd Round 2008-2009 30-4 15-3 2nd NCAA Sweet 16 FYI, Jamie Dixon has more wins than Huggins in the last 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 You cant be serious. Look at what you are asking. Did he miss it on purpose? haha. Comfortable lead? Nope. But during that time somewhere you should be able to control your players and lead them. The way you talk its the blind leading the blind. You said they didn't know how to play in the final minutes. What does missing free throws and losing on a contested 3 point prayer have to do with not knowing how to play the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 You said they didn't know how to play in the final minutes. Go ahead and find that for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) 1999–2000 26-9 11-3 2nd NCAA Sweet 162000–2001 26-7 13-1 1st NCAA Sweet 16 2001–2002 29-4 13-1 T-1st NCAA 1st Round 2002–2003 24-9 11-3 1st NCAA 2nd Round 2003–2004 28-3 14-0 1st NCAA 2nd Round 2004–2005 26-5 12-2 1st NCAA 2nd Round 2005–2006 29-4 14-0 1st NCAA Sweet 16 2006–2007 23-11 11-3 1st NCAA 1st Round 2007–2008 25-8 13-1 1st NCAA 1st Round You used a team from the West Coast Conference??? Come on now. They are the original Cinderellas. Edited March 26, 2009 by BEAVERTAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) 1999–2000 15-14 8-8 4th (American) NIT 1st Round2000–2001 15-14 9-7 3rd (American) 2001–2002 26-7 13-3 2nd (American) NCAA 1st Round 2002–2003 27-6 14-2 1st (American) NCAA Final Four 2003–2004 19-12 8-8 8th NIT Quarterfinals 2004–2005 19-12 7-9 9th NIT 1st Round 2005–2006 20-11 10-6 T-4th NCAA 1st Round 2006–2007 24-10 10-6 T-5th NCAA 1st Round 2007–2008 25-10 11-7 T-5th NCAA 2nd Round Seems like Crean had Marquette rolling in the American Conference, and it took some time to make it back to the middle of the pack in the big east. Either way, no one is calling Creen a great coach, and he has a along way to go before that. And now with Indiana he is in a deeper hole than ever. Edited March 26, 2009 by BEAVERTAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Go ahead and find that for me. "You could recruit smart players who know the game and how to play in the last minutes." Copy and paste is a beautiful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 FYI, Jamie Dixon has more wins than Huggins in the last 6 years. So what? He can't win in the NCAA tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 So what? He can't win in the NCAA tourney. Neither can Huggins. Oh MY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Neither can Huggins. Oh MY! Your are so predictable. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) "You could recruit smart players who know the game and how to play in the last minutes." Copy and paste is a beautiful thing. So is taking things out of context. You sure you arent liberal? lol All im saying, then and now, is that as a coach you can recruit players who know how to take over a game at the end or dont. Players all have different skills and weaknesses. I would rather have a smarter player at PG, than a more athletic one as a coach. And the above was one of 2 reasons I gave to control the game, once again you took it out of context. Why do teams with better backcourts win tourney games? They control the game in areas the coach can't at times. Never did I say the players dont know how to play, but some simply know how to win. And thats the goal isnt it? Edited March 26, 2009 by BEAVERTAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Your are so predictable. Haha The last 6 years: Bob Huggins 4 NCAA Tournament wins. Jamie Dixon 8* NCAA Tournament wins. Its easy to be predictable when the obvious is in front of you. *Pitt is still playing this year, so the number could be increased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 And Dixon still has a lot of first and second round exits. You can't justify your argument against Huggins if you are hyping Jamie Dixon just because he has a few more wins. He still has the early exits which you were bashing Huggins on. Try better next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) You brought up Dixon, not me. I think he is a horrible tournament coach, and I never had any hype for him. Note the ETSU thread where I said they could lose in the first round, and they had not beaten a team above a 6 seed. You used him as an example as someone who was not a good coach in the NCAAs. Unfortunately for you it backfired because Dixon has twice as many wins in the last 6 years, with way less experiece. In my opinion, Dixon is a bad ncaa tournament coach. So is huggins, and if you consider Dixon one, Huggins has to be there as well. Edited March 26, 2009 by BEAVERTAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldgeneral 10 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 1996-1997 Cincinnati 26-8 14-2 1st NCAA Second Round 1997-1998 Cincinnati 27-6 12-4 1st NCAA Second Round 1998-1999 Cincinnati 27-6 12-4 1st (American) NCAA Second Round 1999-2000 Cincinnati 29-4 16-0 1st (American) NCAA Second Round 2000-2001 Cincinnati 25-10 11-5 1st (American) NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2001-2002 Cincinnati 31-4 14-2 1st (American) NCAA Second Round 2002-2003 Cincinnati 17-12 9-7 T-4th NCAA First Round 2003-2004 Cincinnati 25-7 12-4 T-1st NCAA Second Round 2004-2005 Cincinnati 25-8 12-4 T-2nd NCAA Second Round 2006–2007 Kansas State 23-12 10-6 4th NIT Second Round 2007–2008 West Virginia 26-11 11-7 T-5th NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2008-2009 West Virginia 23-10 10-8 T-7th NCAA First Just so the people know what Huggins has done the past 12 years. Second round or better except 03 and 09. Not bad....but does need another final four run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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