GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 2? Whos the second one? Middle Tennessee St. or Buffalo...take your pick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 You may as well call Arkansas State a division 2 school, they just moved up a couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 933 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Both are better than Arkansas State, and neither are FCS, and havent been for a long time. TN has played a FCS school this season and last season, and it was the first time they had scheduled one since 1982. Montana may beat UT, but I doubt it. JMU did beat VT though last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 JMU did beat VT though last year. for realz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Both are better than Arkansas State, and neither are FCS, and havent been for a long time. TN has played a FCS school this season and last season, and it was the first time they had scheduled one since 1982. Montana may beat UT, but I doubt it. JMU did beat VT though last year. Montana is constantly one of the 2-4 best schools in FCS. If any school can give UT a run, Montana can. Not a cakewalk. Middle Tennessee St. or Buffalo...take your pick... Wrong, neither are FCS. And it's indefensible that you think either are: both have won their conferences at least once in the last 5 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 933 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Montana is constantly one of the 2-4 best schools in FCS. If any school can give UT a run, Montana can. Not a cakewalk. Wrong, neither are FCS. And it's indefensible that you think either are: both have won their conferences at least once in the last 5 years... Montana has a very good football team, no doubt about it. That said, if they give UT a run, it will show a big lack of improvement on the Vols part in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,532 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 & if anyone wants to make a monetary donation to the fund to buy me UT@Bama tickets for my 21st bday I would greatly appreciate it. anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Wrong, neither are FCS. And it's indefensible that you think either are: both have won their conferences at least once in the last 5 years... Buffalo was 2-10 last season. They've won a total of 32 games over the last 12 seasons, with 18 of those wins under Turner Gill from '07-'09. Definitely not world beaters. Also, if you throw out MTSU's 10-3 season in '09 and they've been a sub .500 team over the last five years...33-30 during those five seasons with the 10-win season included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 933 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Also, if you throw out MTSU's 10-3 season in '09 and they've been a sub .500 team over the last five years...33-30 during those five seasons with the 10-win season included Also if you include Arkansas States last 5 seasons (none are winning records) they are 25-35 and MTSU leads the series head to head 3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Orange 1 10 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Also if you include Arkansas States last 5 seasons (none are winning records) they are 25-35 and MTSU leads the series head to head 3-2. Ok, the OOC schedule argument is going nowhere. Lets argue about the conference schedules. I would start but there clearly is no argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Ok, the OOC schedule argument is going nowhere. Lets argue about the conference schedules. I would start but there clearly is no argument. VT would have loved to have its shot in the SEC but there was not invite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Orange 1 10 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 VT would have loved to have its shot in the SEC but there was not invite... Why? Do you think they would win 10 games in the SEC and get the big BCS payday most years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 VT would have loved to have its shot in the SEC but there was not invite... ROFL Are you KIDDING? That would be the WORST possible move for VT. You'd certainly not continue that ridiculous 10-win season streak playing against the likes of UF, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, and UT every year. VT would lose what little basketball prestige it ever had by joining the SEC. Since VT's little more than a one-trick athletic pony anyway, there's nothing to gain in any other sports. Coming into the ACC is the best thing that could've ever happened to you. Leaving the ACC would be darned near the stupidest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 You'd certainly not continue that ridiculous 10-win season streak What's ridiculous about our 10-win streak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 What's ridiculous about our 10-win streak? That we have it and UVA doesn't. :) I'd like to have 12-13 wins personally, but 10 is better than whatever the Hoos have been gettin and UT for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Buffalo was 2-10 last season. They've won a total of 32 games over the last 12 seasons, with 18 of those wins under Turner Gill from '07-'09. Definitely not world beaters. Also, if you throw out MTSU's 10-3 season in '09 and they've been a sub .500 team over the last five years...33-30 during those five seasons with the 10-win season included That's not the point. My point was that both schools have won a conference championship (and by proxy have appeared in bowl games) during the last 5 years. For you to not know that both are FBS and not FCS is indefensible for someone who puts forth an image of having a masterful grasp of college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) What's ridiculous about our 10-win streak? Because VT fans love to thump their chests about it when all it does is look pretty on paper. It doesn't bring in the big-time recruits. It doesn't get you all into national title games. You've won exactly 1 Orange Bowl, against the 2nd-worst BCS qualifier of all time. All you've managed to do is to win most of your games against creampuffs while choking when you need a win the most. It's an abused statistic that your fanbase uses to make yourselves look more impressive than you are. Now, 1-27 against Top 5 teams, that's a little better indicator, IMO. That we have it and UVA doesn't. :) I'd like to have 12-13 wins personally, but 10 is better than whatever the Hoos have been gettin and UT for that matter. I'd trade UT's history for VT's in a heartbeat. And at least UVA's been ranked #1 at some point. VT has NEVER done it. Lately, VT's had the edge. Once Beamer's gone, it's gone. Book that baby. Edited May 25, 2011 by UVAObserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 That we have it and UVA doesn't. :) I'd like to have 12-13 wins personally, but 10 is better than whatever the Hoos have been gettin and UT for that matter. Lol, I would love for VT to play the SEC schedule to see how they would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Agreed Observer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 It's an abused statistic that your fanbase uses to make yourselves look more impressive than you are. Not true. It's a statistic that ESPN and other media outlets use to show that our program has been consistent at a very high level of play for a long time now. We win games we're supposed to. Nothing more, nothing less. We rarely get upset and we rarely upset others. Yes, that can be frustrating. But at the end of the day I would rather have 10 wins and a top-25 ranking than be up and down like many, many other programs in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Orange 1 10 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Not true. It's a statistic that ESPN and other media outlets use to show that our program has been consistent at a very high level of play for a long time now. We win games we're supposed to. Nothing more, nothing less. We rarely get upset and we rarely upset others. Yes, that can be frustrating. But at the end of the day I would rather have 10 wins and a top-25 ranking than be up and down like many, many other programs in the nation. No doubt, I would love for Tenn to win 10 games every year. But if it means leaving the SEC.....HELLZ TO THE NO. I love playing the best, win or lose, every year. VT fans were making a big deal over playing Alabama and Boise. We play and always will play Alabama every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Not true. It's a statistic that ESPN and other media outlets use to show that our program has been consistent at a very high level of play for a long time now. We win games we're supposed to. Nothing more, nothing less. We rarely get upset and we rarely upset others. Yes, that can be frustrating. But at the end of the day I would rather have 10 wins and a top-25 ranking than be up and down like many, many other programs in the nation. That's a fair counterargument. That being said, I don't see ESPN use that statistic nearly as much as Hokie fans like to throw it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 No doubt, I would love for Tenn to win 10 games every year. But if it means leaving the SEC.....HELLZ TO THE NO. I love playing the best, win or lose, every year. VT fans were making a big deal over playing Alabama and Boise. We play and always will play Alabama every year. Want to talk about annoying boasting? Let's talk about UT and their fans' need to always mention they're in the SEC. Start winning, then we'll notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Want to talk about annoying boasting? Let's talk about UT and their fans' need to always mention they're in the SEC. Start winning, then we'll notice. When you play in the best conference year in and year out it is worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'd trade UT's history for VT's in a heartbeat. And at least UVA's been ranked #1 at some point. VT has NEVER done it. Lately, VT's had the edge. Once Beamer's gone, it's gone. Book that baby. 1) History doesn't win you anything. 2) Congrats. 3) It might be sooner than that if we aren't careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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