BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 What's wrong with having two successful schools in one state? "Elitist" attitudes like yours are exactly why I TRULY hate WVU. No one outside of West Virginia even cares about WVU so I don't know where it comes from. Virginia (VT, UVA), North Carolina (UNC, NC State, Duke, etc.), South Carolina (USC, Clemson), Georgia (UGA, GT), Florida (FSU, UF, Miami, etc.) Alabama (Bama, Auburn), you get my drift all have more than one university that excels and no "little brothers." It's attitudes like yours that infiltrate legislature and probably hold this state down more so than it should be. The same legislature that forced WVU and Marshall to play a football series? Yes, they are holding down the state while worrying about college football games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Also, it's not an elitist mentality it's just the truth. WVU IS the state's flagship University and it always will be. People in the state identify with WVU and very rarely with Marshall unless they go there or live in Huntington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 The same legislature that forced WVU and Marshall to play a football series? Yes, they are holding down the state while worrying about college football games. Yeah, that same legislature. Headed by our Senator who wanted it more than anyone. Don't act like Marshall begged for that series either. It was set up on a platter by Manchin for WVU. WVU at its best in history and Marshall in a transition period that inevitably ended in a 5-2 home and home series. BTW, there are some other state legislatures who mandated series against in-state schools in past history. I think one of those games goes by the "Iron Bowl" now too. WVU claims that they are better off scheduling the likes of Liberty and it being more profitable to the university and scheduling a game with JMU in DC is more beneficial than a series with Marshall. That's fine. Everyone outside of Morgantown knows the real reason for the inability to negotiate a new series, and it deals with diapers and games like last year in Huntington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Also, it's not an elitist mentality it's just the truth. WVU IS the state's flagship University and it always will be. People in the state identify with WVU and very rarely with Marshall unless they go there or live in Huntington. No, it's a faux Elitist mentality. No one outside of the state of West Virginia cares about WVU. It begins and ends in Charleston. Anything Marshall has done to improve its position athletically, academically, whatever, has been contested by WVU and it's been that way for years. No Marshall Law program? Thank WVU. Marshall Medical School? Contested by WVU. Marshall's new Pharmacy program going in? Contested by WVU. If you'd like to look at federal funding also, we can... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I don't disagree with you on that. Manchin is an idiot. Some Marshall fans even felt like they should have been invited to the Big East back in 2005. From a geographical standpoint it makes total sense but here is what these guys don't who complain about it don't understand. Their stadium holds 38,019. Last year their average attendance was 27,046 which means that it was 71% capacity. WVU on the other hand seats 60,000 and averaged 56,325, a 93% capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 No, it's a faux Elitist mentality. No one outside of the state of West Virginia cares about WVU. It begins and ends in Charleston. Anything Marshall has done to improve its position athletically, academically, whatever, has been contested by WVU and it's been that way for years. No Marshall Law program? Thank WVU. Marshall Medical School? Contested by WVU. Marshall's new Pharmacy program going in? Contested by WVU. If you'd like to look at federal funding also, we can... No one outside the state cares?? WVU is top 15 in merchandise sales yet one of the smallest populated states is fueling those sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 No, it's a faux Elitist mentality. No one outside of the state of West Virginia cares about WVU. It begins and ends in Charleston. Anything Marshall has done to improve its position athletically, academically, whatever, has been contested by WVU and it's been that way for years. No Marshall Law program? Thank WVU. Marshall Medical School? Contested by WVU. Marshall's new Pharmacy program going in? Contested by WVU. If you'd like to look at federal funding also, we can... Very true statement. WVU sucks up funding from the state, when there are great small colleges and Marshall as well. I believe, as with all people, they do not want the little brother to pass them up. A lot of people probably felt that last year during the game. Some Marshall fans even felt like they should have been invited to the Big East back in 2005. From a geographical standpoint it makes total sense but here is what these guys don't who complain about it don't understand. Their stadium holds 38,019. Last year their average attendance was 27,046 which means that it was 71% capacity. WVU on the other hand seats 60,000 and averaged 56,325, a 93% capacity. I'm having a hard time finding the inherency with this fact. Are you trying to say that there isn't a large fanbase for Marshall? The point could be made that with BE opponents, Marshall would easily fill the stadium. Playing UAB doesn't exactly put fans in the seats. Play a big time school (see Memphis in Basketball with Calipari) and tickets are extremely hard to find. Plus, people have to be motivated to drive to the game, and pay for parking, hotels, GAS, food etc as well as tickets. Comparing ticket sales to merchandise sales is silly. Going to a game and buying a shirt are two different things. Nevertheless, if you want to look at attendance, what does having an empty stadium during the second half say about a fanbase? I think it proves Hokie07's point about the Walmart WVU fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Actually I use to root like hell for Marshall and then several of their fans got big heads and thought because they dominated I-AA that they would come in and do the same in I-A. If they would simply accept their role as little brother then I wouldn't have a problem with them. In other words, WVU started playing them. As soon as they were in the same division, WVU had to be better in every aspect to maintain their "elite" status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Actually it's a perfect example as why most retail stores carry WVU gear instead of Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 In other words, WVU started playing them. As soon as they were in the same division, WVU had to be better in every aspect to maintain their "elite" status. That makes no sense. WVU doesn't have to be better in every aspect. Marshall may be better than WVU in a lot of things. Football is not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 One more thing, and I may get blasted for this but it has been the truth for some time. I love the state I was born and raised in, more than any other state. Proud to be from the state of WV, more than any other person around. But WVU embarrasses me to the point I rarely say I am a Mountaineer. I'll say I am from WV, but never a mountaineer (I am dying to have a mountaineer on a shirt without the flying WV). It pisses me off that their ways seem to reflect on our state. You want to know where bad stereotypes come from, look to the school and administration that reside in Morgantown. I honestly believe they put a bad taste in the mouths of many people outside the state. There are a lot of GREAT things going on in the state, and it is overshadowed by what seems to be the elite school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) That makes no sense. WVU doesn't have to be better in every aspect. Marshall may be better than WVU in a lot of things. Football is not one of them. If you look at Hokie07 post before, you can see that WVU has tried to limit Marshall's growth. The only thing Marshall and WVU couldn't fight on was football, as being in different divisions. You probably never cared about growth, so you tipped your hat to Marshall. When they were competing against you, you no longer could. Hope that explains what I am getting at. Edited August 9, 2011 by StoneyCalhoun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 One more thing, and I may get blasted for this but it has been the truth for some time. I love the state I was born and raised in, more than any other state. Proud to be from the state of WV, more than any other person around. But WVU embarrasses me to the point I rarely say I am a Mountaineer. I'll say I am from WV, but never a mountaineer (I am dying to have a mountaineer on a shirt without the flying WV). It pisses me off that their ways seem to reflect on our state. You want to know where bad stereotypes come from, look to the school and administration that reside in Morgantown. I honestly believe they put a bad taste in the mouths of many people outside the state. There are a lot of GREAT things going on in the state, and it is overshadowed by what seems to be the elite school. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well I respect your opinion, but at the end of the day the majority of people in this state LOVE WVU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well I respect your opinion, but at the end of the day the majority of people in this state LOVE WVU. Stoney Calhoun brings up good points throughout the evening and I agree with all of them. But you still haven't explained why there can't be two successful schools in the state? You still haven't explained why you, among the majority of the WVU fan base, are so obsessed with everything that "little brother" is doing? FWIW, I saw a tweet this evening that said: "The two most popular single game tickets have been Pitt and Marshall. UConn comes in at No. 3 ... Order online at WVUGAME.com ..." This tweet was originally by a John Antonik, a WVU sports affiliate. But nobody cares about "little brother," right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well I respect your opinion, but at the end of the day the majority of people in this state LOVE WVU. And the majority of the country frowns upon us. No one can deny that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 And the majority of the country frowns upon us. No one can deny that. Unfortunately this. Plus, all the other points you've made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Rumor has it that Doc Holliday and Vinny Curry were trying to catch a one way flight to Memphis from Charleston and they wanted to stay at the casino/dog tracks the night before so they wouldn't have to drive. Turned out the rooms were booked by coaches from another school and they had to change all their plans. Thus, their missing Media Day. Unacceptable really. I recommend Marshall just drop all their sports programs because they can't even schedule. I hope they can find their way to Morgantown next month! Word I heard is that Marshall wanted to save money so they booked a connecting flight and missed media day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Got my "Go Green" cards in my season ticket packet day before yesterday...think I'll spread them around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmshoe 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 And the majority of the country frowns upon us. No one can deny that. Really? Is that why Myrtle Beach has a WVU alumni bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverbaseball 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Really? Is that why Myrtle Beach has a WVU alumni bar? Broadway Louie's is by far my favorite bar i've EVER been to. Love seeing the WVU headquarters painted on the wall when you walk in. Coach Stew sang Country Roads there the night we beat Kentucky in the elite 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Really? Is that why Myrtle Beach has a WVU alumni bar? Considering that most everyone from WV vacations at Myrtle Beach, this is no surprise...kinda like the "Go Green" cards, trying to cash in on an opportunity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmshoe 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Considering that most everyone from WV vacations at Myrtle Beach, this is no surprise...kinda like the "Go Green" cards, trying to cash in on an opportunity... Please explain how this is "kinda" like the the go green cards? How is a bar dedicated to a college, which is 9 hours away, the same as a college passing out cards trying to sell merchandise? Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Please explain how this is "kinda" like the the go green cards? How is a bar dedicated to a college, which is 9 hours away, the same as a college passing out cards trying to sell merchandise? Wow Trying to cash in on the WVU fans that visit Myrtle Beach...same way the "Go Green" cards are trying to get retailers to cash in on the Marshall fans that visit their stores. Take off the Blue&Gold glasses and try to see the real picture for a second... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmshoe 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Trying to cash in on the WVU fans that visit Myrtle Beach...same way the "Go Green" cards are trying to get retailers to cash in on the Marshall fans that visit their stores. Take off the Blue&Gold glasses and try to see the real picture for a second... No its not, its completely different. Lets take off these "blue and gold" glasses for a second. Ok I see one school who is begging to get their merchandise sold. On the other hand I see a school who obviously doesn't need to pass out these little flyers saying "hey guys don't forget about us, we are here to" because they are even represented 10 hours away. Maybe you need to take off your green, and white glasses for a little bit, and realize you really are just WVU's little brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm a Hokie, my friend...and like it or not, WVU's reputation precedes itself outside its borders...and it isn't very flattering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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