vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Because of the length of the article, I'm not going to copy/paste it here. Instead, here's the link. Is anyone surprised? http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news;_ylt=ArwzXEefP9Aug1H44BpKDVg5nYcB?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Since it's Miami, It didn't surprise me one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 933 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Im surprised.....surprised they still couldnt be very good, even at basketball, with those kinds of benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/17/2362429/the-smoke-that-you-see-at-the.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest The Variable Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Thats hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Since it's Miami, It didn't surprise me one bit. Miami or not, I'm surprised. The magnitude in-terms of people involved (players, coaches, and AD personnel), the number of years it took place without word getting out before now, the amount of benefits, and the various forms of benefits. I read the article yesterday morning and just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, it did. Two words, death penalty. If ever a program deserves such a harsh punishment it's this is the one for their blatant disrespect of NCAA guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/17/v-fullstory/2362352/report-miami-hurricanes-players.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Looking back on the 2003 ACC expansion process and how Miami and UNC tried like hell to keep VT out of the ACC, it' warms my heart to see those two "trusted" institutes of higher learning working closely with the NCAA currently. Even more so when UNC publicly bashed the addition of VT and the Hokies' "troublesome football program." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I do feel a morsel of pity for Al Golden and Jim Larranaga. Apparently Miami knew Shapiro was talking and still hired each of these guys within the last nine months without letting them know. Bastard move on the part of Miami higher-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 If a program ever deserved the "death penalty", this is the instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto 10 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Do you guys really think they would give the death penalty again? If all these allegations are proven true of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 933 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Do you guys really think they would give the death penalty again? If all these allegations are proven true of course. NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Do you guys really think they would give the death penalty again? If all these allegations are proven true of course. I hope so. Something this deep, this intricate, needs to be punished as hard as possible. If you don't, you're not sending a message to A: Miami and B: the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I hope so. Something this deep, this intricate, needs to be punished as hard as possible. If you don't, you're not sending a message to A: Miami and B: the NCAA. But 1inStripes is right. They wont do it because they dont have the spine or the "mah-bles" or the guts to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Bastard move on the part of Miami higher-ups. Did you expect anything less??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Did you expect anything less??? Well what are they supposed to do? Not hire anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Well what are they supposed to do? Disclose facts to potential hires... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Disclose facts to potential hires... If they were honest, they wouldnt be in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 If they were honest, they wouldnt be in this position. My point exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman 13 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Do you guys really think they would give the death penalty again? If all these allegations are proven true of course. Death Penalty in all but name. Lose 30 scholorships for 15 seasons, no TV of any kind, and no post season play for 15 seasons. Don't kill them, just make them impoverished for the best part of a generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Death Penalty in all but name. Lose 30 scholorships for 15 seasons, no TV of any kind, and no post season play for 15 seasons. Don't kill them, just make them impoverished for the best part of a generation. That'd kinda be like playing against Florida A&M...same color unis too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman 13 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 That'd kinda be like playing against Florida A&M...same color unis too... The NCAA have got to wallop Miami without damaging the ACC. If you remember SMU in 87-88 the primary fallout wasn't with the football program, it was with the SWC being forced to disband and the closure of the Dallas Times Herald, when the Dallas business community (SMU graduates) struck back against the Herald by withholding advertising dollars. The penalty has to be severe, without damaging the ACC, or any other ACC members. In summation, keep them on life support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 The problem with reducing their TV contracts is that while it hurts the pocketbooks of the institution somewhat, it effects the fans more than anyone. I am no friend of any Miami fan like the next Hokie but it's not exactly their fault. Nor is it the current coaching staff's or a majority of the current players. I say fine the program out the arss. Cripple them in dollars, its what this is all about in the first place. Vacating wins and banning a program doesn't punish those involved. But fining a school millions of dollars for each account holds the schools more accountable. I also wish the NFL would step up and say players who are linked to such behavior are ineligible for the draft for a year. That's good money and opportunity that they miss out on. Perhaps more of a deterrent and thus holding them more accountable as well. The other issue is that the cases don't come to light for years after the fact. Fining the school until they can't see straight would go further in deterring behavior than a few bowl bans and some missing scholarships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Looking back on the 2003 ACC expansion process and how Miami and UNC tried like hell to keep VT out of the ACC, it' warms my heart to see those two "trusted" institutes of higher learning working closely with the NCAA currently. Even more so when UNC publicly bashed the addition of VT and the Hokies' "troublesome football program." Well, Virginia did too, until the General Assembly got involved. But we've already had that discussion. You're unfairly bashing UNC here, whose problems started AFTER Butch Davis was hired, which we all know happened after the 2006 season, over 2 full years after VT's addition. But don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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