Milo 39 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 The first amendment does not protect what you say—only your right to speak. This means that you can say what you choose, but the nature of free speech is that others are free to say what they choose as well, even if it means disagreeing with you or mounting a campaign of people to respond to you. Keep these points in mind as we discuss how your freedom of speech plays out on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Facebook , twiiter and other major social media sites are dealing with congress over the fact they cannot control speech, on a lower level it's happening at an alarming rate. Report abuse here: https://www.usa.gov/online-safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 A federal government website managed by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services 200 Independence Avenue, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20201 https://www.internetandtechnologylaw.com/blocks-social-media-moderation-first-amendment-violation/ The owner may not like it, but you can say it ! So if you block people from your facebook , twitter or instagram account or other website just because you own it and do not like their position, you could be violating their right to speak by your block. But social media users and moderators love the power of " blocking and banning." Let's see what happens? "Judge Cacheris stated in his opinion: “The First Amendment applies to speech on social media with no less force than in other types of forums. The Court cannot treat a First Amendment violation in this vital, developing forum differently than it would elsewhere simply because technology has made it easier to find alternative channels through which to disseminate one’s message…” and “The suppression of critical commentary regarding elected officials is the quintessential form of viewpoint discrimination against which the First Amendment guards…” The Judge further opined that the Facebook page is a forum for protected, free speech under both federal and Virginia state law." Ignore and block tabs provided to users for use on other users on the same website shows that the website has a tendency to suppress the right to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Here is a great example, it happened just this morning on this website by an administrator. GMan I didn't come here to be mediocre. Administrators 2,735 17,445 posts Report post Posted 4 hours ago On 8/13/2018 at 3:00 PM, HowTheWestWasWon2017 said: The white kid had mad skillz. Does it really matter what color he was? And, stop being racist on my board. Do it again and you are gone... There is nothing wrong or racist with what "HowTheWestWasWon2017," said. But look at language the administrator uses, makes an accusation of racism, makes clear that it is "his/her" board. And threatens the user with a comment that can be taken several different ways. "Do it again or you are gone?" You choose who uses the abusive language, the administrator or the User? Not very professional at all. These type comments are used to strike fear, "Do it again or your gone." If the administrator would like I can go through the files and find where "white kid" and "black kid" has been used multiple times and not a word is said. When the rules change on a daily basis and enforced on some and over looked with others is the exact reason the government is making websites answer for their threats on users. The administrator also chooses to do this for everyone to see to extend the humiliation to bullying. P.S. This "Kid" HowTheWestWasWon2017 was talking about was Mac McClung and HowTheWestWasWon2017 only had good things to say. Yet he gets accused, threatened and bullied for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 There is no right of free speech when a person voluntarily becomes a member of a PRIVATE website owned by a PRIVATE citizen using his PRIVATE funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, Liam McPoyle said: There is no right of free speech when a person voluntarily becomes a member of a PRIVATE website owned by a PRIVATE citizen using his PRIVATE funds. Ask Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, Liam McPoyle said: There is no right of free speech when a person voluntarily becomes a member of a PRIVATE website owned by a PRIVATE citizen using his PRIVATE funds. I own a car and it is my private car and i am a private citizen, I bought it with my private funds as well, but I can't run people over with it because i don't like their view of something. Well I could but I would go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysnskynyrd 74 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Milo...I get what you’re saying but this is a forum where some of us just come on here to get score updates and check out what’s going on in our little neck of the woods. With so much going on in our world today, this is what really bothers you that bad? It’s just like a tv or radio, if you don’t like it, move on. If your beef is directly with an admin on this board, just keep it between you two. I’m sure if any of our rights are truly being violated on this board any lawyer(s) would pm that person with a sweet case turning them to instant millionaires:-) Milo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Milo said: I own a car and it is my private car and i am a private citizen, I bought it with my private funds as well, but I can't run people over with it because i don't like their view of something. Well I could but I would go to jail. Allow me to tweak your analogy. You, a private citizen in your own car paid for with private funds give a person a free ride. That person's right to free speech is not protected inside your private car. You, as the car owner, have the right to shut down their speech and remove them from your car for whatever reason you decide. Once outside your car and on the street, the person can exercise their right to free speech. Ryan4VT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Liam McPoyle said: Allow me to tweak your analogy. You, a private citizen in your own car paid for with private funds give a person a free ride. That person's right to free speech is not protected inside your private car. You, as the car owner, have the right to shut down their speech and remove them from your car for whatever reason you decide. Once outside your car and on the street, the person can exercise their right to free speech. You just made a new set of rules, just like the websites do, the point is I can't hurt people with my car. I didn't give anyone a ride. Especially a free one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Milo said: You just made a new set of rules, just like the websites do, the point is I can't hurt people with my car. I think I missed something. Did @GMan try to run someone over in his car because he disagreed with their post? Mountain Football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Liam McPoyle said: I think I missed something. Did @GMan try to run someone over in his car because he disagreed with their post? I don't know, but if he runs his car like this website he might try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Milo said: I don't know, but if he runs his car like this website he might try. Oh the second he sees this, you’re going to be getting a time out. Its not a “might.” Lol cowboysnskynyrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 I'm glad to make him happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Ryan4VT said: Oh the second he sees this, you’re going to be getting a time out. Its not a “might.” Lol Better yet let me just ban him right now. So long.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Mountain Football, cowboysnskynyrd and Ryan4VT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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