TheAlpha 10 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 I say the most effective is some variation on a double wing. What do the teams at your respective schools run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 From what I know about the double wing (which isn't much)it's a good choice for high school football. Richlands uses the "I" as it's base and also likes to get in the shotgun and spread em' out. My favorite offense is one that mixes option, power running, and play action passing. I'm not a big fan of the spread because I like the TE's and FB's to have a big role, but I can live with the spread option that many college teams are using now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue02 11 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Ya'll know what the hardest offense I played against in JV was?It was that darn Single wing that giles uses that drove me absolutely nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 We played Giles back in the day...I kinda thought it was a neat offense...I think we ended up beating them 7-0 the last time we played them and they beat us 3-0 the time before that...they had a good defense a long time ago. I think the wishbone would be a great offense if you have a good sized QB that can run it and at least one big back and one fast back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue02 11 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 We tried the wishbone a couple of years ago it was a complete disaster.We're better off with the I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Yeah - unless you have a QB that can run over people, the Wishbone is hard to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigorange_66 10 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 I think a balanced "I" formation with a good running game is a simple but effective offense with play action mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Bluefield would be good at a wishbone formation with the quarterback , rusty coeburn is 6'2.....he looks huge in perosn and can knock the socks off people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue02 11 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 what about Defense? I always liked the 5-3 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 i prefer the 4-3 but then again it depends on if the offense can run or pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlpha 10 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 What formation does Bluefield/Graham run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistol4 10 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 They both have a shotgun set. Bluefield uses a double wing set, where they can option to the fullback, and give it to the wings in motion and stuff. Graham uses a two tight end set, with three backs in hte backfield. They run leads, traps, and dives. And they can put either back at a wing, and/or put the tight end wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Bluefield doesn't have one set formation they run this year. They run everything from the spread to the double wing to the tee, which they ran very effectively against Martinsburg Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Tornado 10 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I'll have to say about offensive formations that I hate playing against the single wing, when we played against Giles my senior year, it was Mance's first year as a asst. coach, well they brought him up to help out with Richlands defense since he went there(Giles). I played outside linebacker and they put me right up on the defensive line, I never knew where the ball was going, to hard to read. On offense, Richlands used to run the wishbone only, when Evans was there, but we usually had good sized QB's to run it, especially Adam Lallande he was a big QB that went to play line at Air Force and VMI to give you some idea of his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I'll have to say about offensive formations that I hate playing against the single wing, when we played against Giles my senior year, it was Mance's first year as a asst. coach, well they brought him up to help out with Richlands defense since he went there(Giles). I played outside linebacker and they put me right up on the defensive line, I never knew where the ball was going, to hard to read. On offense, Richlands used to run the wishbone only, when Evans was there, but we usually had good sized QB's to run it, especially Adam Lallande he was a big QB that went to play line at Air Force and VMI to give you some idea of his size. [/ QUOTE ] Whatever happened to Bruce Evans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Tornado 10 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I really don't know, I thought I had heard he went down to Alabama somewhere and was coaching after he left Richlands. But, I could be way off base on that. I know that was no help at all to you. It's been years since I've heard his name though. The only thing I remember about Evans is the wishbone and WAR EAGLE.......lol !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 If I remember correctly, he was from Alabama. That's the reason Richlands wore a blue version of the Crimson Tide uniforms. I'm going to show my age now and ask, do you remember Todd Heldreth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue02 11 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Gees Bruce Evans is way before my time farthest back I can remeber is Vaught and I had him in middle school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Tornado 10 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Yea, I remember Todd Heldreth, I played football with his younger brother Judd. That is until they moved to South Carolina, Judd went on to punt for Wofford. So, that was a little before my time, when Todd played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Yea, I remember Todd Heldreth, I played football with his younger brother Judd. That is until they moved to South Carolina, Judd went on to punt for Wofford. So, that was a little before my time, when Todd played. [/ QUOTE ] I was actually thinking about the coach, Todd Heldreth Sr. but I remember his sons that played too. Todd Jr. was a pretty good QB from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Tornado 10 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 ohhh...Coach Heldreth, yea I remember him, from just going over to their home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigorange_66 10 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I think some variations on the 4-4 defense it best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Bassett runs a 3-4 defense. I bet the Nosetackle has a tough job. Martinsville's coach Edwards has run about every offense in the book in the past few years. He's run the 'I' wishbone, spread and wing-T. I guess you have to see what kind of players you have to determine your offensive and defensive sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigorange_66 10 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 The 3-4 defense is only a good defense if you have really really good linebackers I think..because you can run on it so easily straight up the gut. J.I. Burton was running a 3-4 defense when we played them in the state semi-final game last year. First play we ran, Corey Whalen up the gut for about 35 yards. They finally switced to a 5-3 after we broke several runs straight up the middle on them. I just don't think its a good defense, but that's my opinion. Basset is obviously having success with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 if anyone around here ever puts a true read option offense in to place, they will dominate...to do that you need 3 skilled players - QB, RB, and TE...QB being the key...has to be able to run the ball and throw the ball and be smart enough to understand the defensive reads...no one around here has ever tried this offense fully...you can call it a Veer or a Option offense or whatever...it's still not the true read option offense...it might take you a few games to get things together, but once you got it you would be able to dominate about any team in the area until defenses adjust, because I don't think at a HS level the defense can fully adjust to it if it is run properly...just my opinion. on defense I like a 4-3 in HS, esp the SWD where things are more run oriented most of the time. I like the "non standard" blitz packages also...where you loop guys in from different blitz lanes...makes it hard for the O-Line to see who is coming from where...Philly does this as well as anyone in the NFL...works pretty good if you have LB's that are fast enough to pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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