I have read negative posts in the past about Coach Phillips of Richlands. From what Central Wise folks were posting after the Richlands-Central game Wed night at UVA Wise they had nothing but praise and admiration for Coach Phillips and the Richlands team for outstanding sportsmanship. In a time of discord and division all across America I think this is very refreshing to see. If any were at the game and would like to elaborate, please do.
First Round -- Monday, February 19 at Holston High School
B3 Grundy 42 at H3 Holston 58
Quarterfinals -- Tuesday, February 20 at higher seeds
H3 Holston 46 at C1 Eastside 85
B2 Twin Valley 77 at H2 Northwood 60
C2 J. I. Burton 52 at H1 Chilhowie 56
C3 Rye Cove 49 at B1 Honaker 83
Semifinals -- Friday, February 23 at UVa-Wise
C1 Eastside vs. B2 Twin Valley
H1 Chilhowie vs. B1 Honaker
Finals -- Saturday, February 24 at UVa-Wise
Class 2
Quarterfinals at Higher seed -- Wednesday, February 21
1 Graham 77 vs. 4 John Battle 46
2 Wise Central 87 vs. 3 Richlands 70
2 Grayson County 45 vs. 3 Union 54
1 Gate City 80 vs. 4 Lebanon 43
Semifinals at UVA-Wise -- Friday, February 23
1 Graham vs. 2 Wise Central
1 Gate City vs. 3 Union
Finals at UVA-Wise -- Saturday, February 24
Class 3
Quarterfinals at Higher Seed -- Tuesday, February 20
1 Northside 67 vs. 8 Christiansburg 55
4 Cave Spring 64 vs. 5 Magna Vista 39
2 Hidden Valley 45 vs. 7 Patrick County 32
3 Staunton River 77 vs. 6 Abingdon 63
Semifinals at Northside High School -- Thursday, February 22
1 Northside vs. 4 Cave Spring
2 Hidden Valley vs. 3 Staunton River
Finals at Northside High School -- Friday, February 23
GIRLS
Class 1
First Round -- Monday, February 19 at Holston High School
B3 Twin Valley 39 at H3 Holston 56
Quarterfinals -- Tuesday, February 20 at higher seeds
H3 Holston 57 at C1 Eastside 75
B2 Grundy 38 at H2 Chilhowie 41
C2 J. I. Burton 39 at H1 Patrick Henry 53
C3 Rye Cove 64 at B1 Honaker 33
Semifinals -- Thursday, February 22 at UVa-Wise
C1 Eastside vs. H2 Chilhowie
H1 Patrick Henry vs. C3 Rye Cove
Finals -- Saturday, February 24 at UVa-Wise
Class 2
Quarterfinals at Higher Seed -- Tuesday, February 20
1 Virginia High 59 vs. 4 Gate City 54
2 Ridgeview 63 vs. 3 Tazewell 39
2 Lebanon 33 vs. 3 Union 47
1 Wise Central 62 vs. 4 Marion 22
Semifinals at UVA-Wise -- Thursday, February 22
1 Virginia High vs. 2 Ridgeview
1 Wise Central vs. 3 Union
Finals at UVA-Wise -- Saturday, February 24
Class 3
Quarterfinals at Higher Seed -- Tuesday, February 20
1 Patrick County 62 vs. 8 Hidden Valley 44
4 Abingdon 60 vs. 5 Magna Vista 29
2 Christiansburg 61 vs. 7 Alleghany 44
3 Lord Botetourt 55 vs. 6 Cave Spring 32
Semifinals at Magna Vista High School -- Thursday, February 22
1 Patrick County vs. 4 Abingdon
2 Christiansburg vs. 3 Lord Botetourt
Finals at Magna Vista High School -- Friday, February 23
Will update the rest as I see them....
I think the Graham and Central game will be a great game. Think Gate City, Eastside and Honaker move on. Then Eastside and Honaker will be a great match up...Graham and Gate City would be another good game.
Thanks for the helpful info! I think Mac breaks Iversons record...just don't know if he can beat Tanners record.If Mac can put up 50 on Richlands next game that would help a whole lot!
No, you're interpreting data in a way more favorable to your opinion but in a way that runs counter to how everyone else uses the expression 'choking' in the context of sports.
I don't know if UVA makes a FF, their bracket will decide that. I think they're one of the four best teams in the nation but VT showed a blueprint to beat them by having excellent guard play, limiting turnovers and offensive rebounds, and creating fast break points when possible. Duke is one of the 6-7 best teams but I don't trust them. They could get hot and win it all or flame out in the second round.
Va has won some close games. I worry they have a poor offensive game and the other team gets hot from behind the arc and Va gets out of their game plan. Duke seems to either falter big time in the tourney or become giant killers. Could there be a Cinderella team that no one made a fuss over and get crowned as National champs?
Battle, Union was likely favored by most. It's not like Vegas puts out lines for VHSL 2A Mountain 7 conference games so there's nothing official. Wise? Most would have favored Central or had the game a toss up. Mullins played in the most recent meeting as opposed to the first meeting so anyone who strongly favored Union is dumb. The Wiki said strongly favored, which Union would not have been in either game.
I almost feel bad for you if you truly believe simply having a lead late in a game is choking. If you honestly believe that, I do feel bad for you bc you obviously have no idea how to correctly use the term 'choke' in a sporting context. But I believe you're just trying to turn the tables on me for some reason because I accurately remarked about how Wise choked away the game in BSG by turning the ball over twice in the last minute and jacking up threes instead of running an offense.
Wise did choke. But so did Union. You offered a definition from Wikipedia that affirms both teams choked. We can go over that Wikipedia definition once again that was pointed out in my last post if you desire too. Anyway great conversing with you. What's your thoughts on the NCAA tourney?Will Va make it to the final four or will Duke make it there?
Union was strongly favored to win at Wise? By who? If so, that speaks to Wise being shitty, but I can promise you Union wasn't strongly favored by anyone in either game.
And out of sorts? You're the one who tried to prove a point only to be proven silly.
So you are saying Union wasn't favored to beat Central and Battle? And they were called upsets. Union was favored to beat Battle and led after 3 straight quarters and choked. The failure of a team in a game where maintaining their performance is highly important. Union failed to maintain their performance in the 4th quarter and choked according to Wikipedia.
"In sports, achokeis the failure of a sportsperson or team in a game in a situation where maintaining their performance is highly important.[1]This can occur in a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win, or in an instance where they have a large lead that they squander in the late stages of the event. It can also refer to repeated failures in the same event, or simply infer an unexpected failure when the event is more important than usual."
Sounds like Union choked twice. Favored to win against Central and Battle. So the Wikipedia definition says they choked...a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win''...
Um, no. You have it ass backwards. You have the definition that 99.9% of the world doesn't share. Choking isn't simply losing a lead, if that was true then 75% of games in every sport would be choke jobs. A choke is giving away a game late thru mistakes, basically allowing a team to win.
And hooray for Wise? They finally beat Union after losing almost 20 games in a row, managing to do it by a gigantic three points at home against one of the weakest teams in Union history. Really a signature win :/
Worst Union team in years finishes third in the M7 after losing their All-Region player in the second game, I'd say that's a success.
You aren't very good at this, are you?
As I said a simple post about a Central win over Union has got you out of sorts. And I love Wes Slagle. Good friend of mine. He is a great player and person. Sad he got injured. He will have to carry the load next yr with Mitchell being gone. Central will miss Dalton Mullins. Gate City will be without Mac. Who knows how the teams will do next year. Should be interesting to see how GC adapts. Ridgeview, Lee, and Battle perhaps about the same as this year. Don't see Abingdon overachieving either. Gate City and Graham this year. Other guys will exit early.
Do you understand what a choke truly is, in a sport context? It's not simply losing a game in which you had the lead, it's finding a way to lose at the end when the opposing team has no chance at winning without you doing everything possible to help them beat you. Wasn't the case during this game, you got butthurt when I posted about Wise's epic choke in BSG earlier this year and are now trying to make a point, facts be damned.
See your definition of choke is different than 99% of the rest of the world. When you are up 3 quarters out of 4 and you lose then you choke. You got butthurt that Union choked and someone mentioned it. And Central that you despise even got a higher seed in the tournament. But all teams choke in sports. Pro, college, youth. Nothing to get overly upset over.
Cry me a river. Did Union lead the entire game and have to practically give the game away with late, under a minute turnovers? No? Then it's not even remotely the same.
Union led 3 out of 4 quarters and lost. They lose the game in the 4th quarter. Sounds likethey choked..
Devastating loss here as this possibly now sends Union on the road in first round of Region D to Grayson County or Graham.
Folks the other day posting about Wise Central being the choking capital of the region need to be careful about putting teams down. Might turn around and be their team. Union can still bounce back. Juxt how tough mentally are they?
I see now, looks they were indeed counting an extra game. He scored 39 against Va High in the benefit game after Science Hill game in which he had 50 or so. I looked back and found the KTN player of the year article from last year and it says 1673 at the conclusion of last season. So, going on that, he would be at 2467 now. Looks like 2000 came later against Battle on the 5th.
The total number of games has inched up over the years. The '70s and '80s had a 20-game regular season limit with a single elimination post season. I think the limit may be 22 for the regular season now. You also have both the champ and runner-up advancing out of district/conference and region. It looks like Gate City will have 30 games if they make it to the title. Powell Valley won the title in '74 playing 28 games.
Thanks for the helpful info. Wonder when Steve Marcee played and how many games he played in his career compared to Mac? I also heard there were no 3 point line in his era.
Yes, I updated the totals to include the 47 points today.
Just curious if seniors in previous years got to play in as many post regular season games as current seniors get to. Could Mac have more games to score more points as guys say 10 or 15 yrs did back?
What is the moral difference in losing by 35 or losing by 50? They are both extreme blowout losses.
In 2011 Clintwood football got beat by nearly 60 points to Grayson County. They were humiliated. They came back and never lost a game that year and won the State Championship. After falling to Grayson County they had a record of 1-2. They finished 13-2. They beat George Wythe and a great Sussex team in playoffs. Then beat Galax 33-28 for State. Galax had beaten Grayson County that yr. So after being beat by nearly 60 points by Grayson you have to play the team that beat them for a State Championship. I was a part of that season and with the team helping and encouraging. The Greenwave guys said they never wanted to feel the feeling they experienced when losing to Grayson. They used it as a motivation each and every game. So in reality the Grayson game turned out to be a blessing in some ways. It's how you deal with the circumstance. They used it not to wallow in defeat, but to become better.
Darrin is an all-around good player. He can drive inside just as a easily he can put up three pointers but at the same time he doesn't want to pass it off and let somebody else score. He's a good ball handler. He hustles on offense and defense and makes the opponent work really hard to keep control of the ball. So I'd say he's just as good if not better than Roman.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like he is really good. Any idea if he's going to play in college?
Martin is a senior who has only played two & half years of varsity and recently scored his 1000th point. That usually takes most players four years on varsity. He should be somewhere in the top just my opinion. I'm biased though.
Heard good things about Martin. How does he compare to Roman Workman who played a coupleyrs ago for Graham?
I know Mac is the top senior in our SWVA region. Who would you have 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.. Who impresses you and stands out in this 2017-2018 Hoops season ? Luke Lawson of Eastside is having a great year...would he be a possible # 2?
There are 4 regular season games left, 2 guaranteed (basically) M7 tournament games and 3 guaranteed (basically) 2D games. That's 9 games that are all but certain.
To break the record in those 9 games he would need 31.6ppg to break Iverson and 43.6ppg to break Tanner. The 32ppg is actually very plausible, given his season ppg is 37.
If you add in the 3 state tournament games that they could potentially play (so this total is with a run to a state final), those numbers jump to 23.75 and 32.75 respectively.
With a state title run, I'd be shocked if he didn't break both, given his pace this season.
Thanks for your helpful update. Think the latter 2 or 3 games may be tougher to average the points he needs to break Tanners. He may need 3 or 4 super games of 50+points to help get him over the top!
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I have read negative posts in the past about Coach Phillips of Richlands. From what Central Wise folks were posting after the Richlands-Central game Wed night at UVA Wise they had nothing but praise and admiration for Coach Phillips and the Richlands team for outstanding sportsmanship. In a time of discord and division all across America I think this is very refreshing to see. If any were at the game and would like to elaborate, please do.