1Wingit23

Amongst others......

Interesting enough that Giles J.V. success has a very low translation rate to varsity?!?! At J.V age its about natural talent and once they get passed by every other school that has emplemented an actual off-season program, the excuses get made about the kids, the parents, the weather, etc etc etc.....it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what Giles problem is at this point 

Wow, this is a lot to take in as I'm late to the conversation. My experiences with Giles is the following and I'm a fairly trusted source as I have talked to numerous players in my living room for 5 years now along with my own personal observations. My first observation was the off-season workouts were almost non-existent compared to our competition and was told "it's a family" thing or whatever excuse they used to not have a decent off-season program which hasn't really improved in 5 years. Thing's progressed through j.v. and I have zero negative to say about the AD or his staff during the JV years. J.v. years didn't exactly last long as ...varsity was really struggling with numbers and talent. Varsity football is a train wreck at Giles. Here's the list of problems that I know personally exists... off-season program is terrible and nobody on staff is willing to take charge and hold kids accountable, the kids don't like or respect a coach that doesn't coach but only belittles them, Xs and Os are not as good as they once were, kids play different positions every single week and are yelled at because they don't always know what to do or have practiced the position. These are my opinions.. participation is probably held back by the fact that the kids don't like the coach and Giles has losing records for the last 5 out of 6 years. Losing breeds losing and it's a vicious cycle. Once the culture changes it's impossible without a major change to right the ship. I've read on FB the senior spotlights for players for years and they all mention every coach making an impact on them except the head coach?! It's no secret which coaches the players respect. Play calling has become exceptionally bad and it's telegraphed at this point, Clock management is terrible, and plays are called it seems to give certain players the ball regardless of whether they have the "hot hand" or not. Not sure what the parents have to do with anything as all I've seen is unwaivering support for a busted program. The only thing negative I would say about the AD is the scheduling absolutely puts Giles at a disadvantage scheduling teams year after year we have absolutely no business playing. Giles needs a hungry coach that wants to win above all things and plain and simply we don't have. In fact, the believe he handcuffs some of his staff that wants these things. RIP for a long standing dominant program that was once envied by the entire state. 

Wow, this is a lot to take in as I'm late to the conversation. My experiences with Giles is the following and I'm a fairly trusted source as I have talked to numerous players in my living room for 5 years now along with my own personal observations. My first observation was the off-season workouts were almost non-existent compared to our competition and was told "it's a family" thing or whatever excuse they used to not have a decent off-season program which hasn't really improved in 5 years. Thing's progressed through j.v. and I have zero negative to say about the AD or his staff during the JV years. J.v. years didn't exactly last long as ...varsity was really struggling with numbers and talent. Varsity football is a train wreck at Giles. Here's the list of problems that I know personally exists... off-season program is terrible and nobody on staff is willing to take charge and hold kids accountable, the kids don't like or respect a coach that doesn't coach but only belittles them, Xs and Os are not as good as they once were, kids play different positions every single week and are yelled at because they don't always know what to do or have practiced the position. These are my opinions.. participation is probably held back by the fact that the kids don't like the coach and Giles has losing records for the last 5 out of 6 years. Losing breeds losing and it's a vicious cycle. Once the culture changes it's impossible without a major change to right the ship. I've read on FB the senior spotlights for players for years and they all mention every coach making an impact on them except the head coach?! It's no secret which coaches the players respect. Play calling has become exceptionally bad and it's telegraphed at this point, Clock management is terrible, and plays are called it seems to give certain players the ball regardless of whether they have the "hot hand" or not. Not sure what the parents have to do with anything as all I've seen is unwaivering support for a busted program. The only thing negative I would say about the AD is the scheduling absolutely puts Giles at a disadvantage scheduling teams year after year we have absolutely no business playing. Giles needs a hungry coach that wants to win above all things and plain and simply we don't have. In fact, the believe he handcuffs some of his staff that wants these things. RIP for a long standing dominant program that was once envied by the entire state. 

Interesting enough that Giles J.V. success has a very low translation rate to varsity?!?! At J.V age its about natural talent and once they get passed by every other school that has emplemented an actual off-season program, the excuses get made about the kids, the parents, the weather, etc etc etc.....it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what Giles problem is at this point 

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Oh we've had many that didn't play over the year because of the AD/JV coach...and a bunch could have helped us....and parents are part of the problem too

Giles JV's have been good for years. Sad part is 1/3 of them will quit football before their senior year. And not because of the AD or because their sister plays soccer at Hilton Head in July, or something like that.

OK, a lot to take in there. So my question is, where do you begin to turn the situation around? You can't bring in 50 different players each year You can't bring in 100 new parents each year. My theory, based on the handfull of players I've known and talked to over the past few years is, the head coach is not very well liked or respected by the players. He doesn't seem to inspire kids to come out for football, or keep the one's participating in middle school or jv to continue their football careers.  Participation numbers have been declining for years, and not wholly a factor of declining enrollment. Other area schools of near equal enrollments as Giles are not seeing these low turnout numbers for football, just check across the river. I'm going to throw this out as an example, Chilhowie. I know very little about that program. But I did catch one of their games this year. I believe they went 0-10 last year. They had over 50 kids dressed for their varsity team. What has happened there. They brought in a new Coach. I didn't look up enrollment numbers, but I'd say Giles and Chilhowie are fairly close. If you're satisfied to just let things go and hope they turn around someday, that's on you. Good luck with that. I got a patch in my yard that grass has quit growing. I can wait a couple more years and see if the grass magically starts growing again, or I can make a change and try something different to see if I can get that patch pretty again.
 

everybody knows the problem. A few on here are reluctant to admit it, but they know as well. they've been around long enough to know.

I hear from various places, Giles coaches are far more concerned with tailgating preparations for VT football games than getting the high school team prepared for Friday nights.
What's the local take?

If Giles finishes 2-8 which is very likely imo is that the worst record in program history?

Another blowout
I think some of our players already mailed it in 

To be honest, that's a tough question. What's realistic to you and I may not be for the ones involved. Who would even want it would be a solid question? I would definitely want Giles to bring in one of their own and keep old traditions. There's current staff that may not even keep the single wing. I would want someone who has the drive to perform the job the way it has to be done to bring the program back to its glory days. The position is almost a full time job in and of itself. With all that being said and I know there's a lot on the man's plate but I would solidly select Ricky Cook as Williams successor if he wanted the position. He is the most respected coach currently on staff and has the knowledge and the people skills that would translate into a great coach. The kids would lay down and die for the dude and that breeds success. I also know the extra things he does currently and would bring a level of dedication to the team that has lacked for several years. On another note, his Dad was probably the greatest coach I ever played for from little League throughout college. The nut didn't fall far from the tree from what I've seen and heard from current and former players

I'm also voting Trey 2024!

We have to agree with the Hokiebird. That Senior leadership, and juniors, is the work ethic they display at practice, the off-season weight room workouts, and encouraging freshmen and sophomores when they don’t do it right. Coaches can only take a team so far, the rest is up to the players. 
 
1Wingit23, Uncle Percy says you must be a Madden Football expert which qualifies you as a clueless dumbass in football. Now old Hokiebird7 can definitely get on one’s nerves at times. However, after reading your comment, the Hokiebird7 definitely knows more football than you. 
 

Absolutely zero senior leadership also....zero

Running an offense invented prior to WW2 at the turn of the century? How many athletes do you need? LMAO 🤣 You couldn't possibly be this ignorant right?

I left the Giles game early bc we were getting killed and PM was up 14-13 on Narrows so I wanted to watch a decent game. I made it to Narrows and the score was 50-14…. I was so upset lol 

Ragsdale wins 7 games with this team with little doubts. Next year isn't looking real hot either as it's a senior dominated team. 

I couldn't agree more!!

Ragsdale wins 7 games with this team with little doubts. Next year isn't looking real hot either as it's a senior dominated team. 

This team showed promise in scrimmage and for the first few games then boom they completely implode. To me it looks like a combination of coaching issues, questionable position changes, defensive alignments and lack of athletes. Hard to overcome all of this. The games against GW and Grayson Co should have been a heck of alot more competitive than they were. Completely dominated by both teams. Giles won't win another game. Galax will come to town and do whatever they want on offense next week. Bluefield will win 50 something to 0, Tazewell more of the same. Fort Chiswell will win by 2 or 3 touchdowns. 

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