EH31 2,526 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 who's going to get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 as much as i hate to say it...Tim Tebow...just because of the 20-20 aspect...but i could be wrong...it could be McFadden he has had a good year...but who really knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I agree. In my opinion, Tim Tebow doesn't deserve the Heisman trophy this year, but he will likely win it, with the first 20/20 touchdown season statistic leading the way. The one who deserves to win the award lost his season to an injured right knee Thursday night: Dennis Dixon. He suffered a tear in the ACL at Arizona State on November 3rd, and still attempted to gut out a performance twelve days later. He is completely indispensible to his team: without Dixon, the Ducks imploded against a 5-6 Wildcat team. This separates him from Tebow: Florida is stocked with a surplus of good, young talent. His team depends on him, sure, but Florida would still be in good shape without him. Oregon looked like a totally different team without Dixon. He has solid quarterback statistics through nine games: 67.7% completion percentage, 2136 yards, 20 TDs, 4 INT. He also has great rushing stats for a quarterback: 586 yards, 5.6 yard per carry average, and 9 touchdowns. I could understand withdrawing an athlete's Heisman consideration if he is injured after five or six games into a season. Dixon left in his tenth game; personally, I feel that this should not keep him out of the Heisman consideration. For two of the other top-4 candidates: Darren McFadden is a stout athlete with fantastic stats, but Arkansas' overall performance is hurting his chances. I think this keeps him out of it. Matt Ryan looks fantastic at times, but he also appears to look rattled and shaken at times. He has come through in hostile environments, but has also failed when his team has needed him the most against Florida State. The stats are fantastic, but his performance as of late has done just enough to knock him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 my top 5---- -Dennis Dixon (probably wont get it due to injury) -Tim Tebow (great stats, but 3 losses, including big upset at home) -Matt Ryan (two great comebacks wins but one bad upset) -Michael Crabtree (breaking every freshman record, has the stats to get it, but most likely wont because of freshman status) -Pat White (great rushing and passing stats, some costly turnovers in some games, but most ESPN reporters still have him as a possibility.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvafball 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Yeah - Tebow may not deserve it b/c of the losses, but he is the best football player in the country - there has not been any other players that could do what he has done in the history of college fb, so that has to count for something...not to mention he takes a pounding in one of the most physical and toughest conferences in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy10 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 If Missouri upsets Kansas next week and goes on to win the Big 12 title game I wouldnt count out Chase Daniels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGPIN 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 PAT WHITE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublue 939 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Tebow.....he's the first name to come up after mentioning FL.....just before Spurrier...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhisman 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 probably Tebow...White will have votes taken from him cause of Slaton and Reynaud....Chase Daniels has a good chance if they win out..but Reesing(or w/e his name is) from KU has very good stats as well...and with an undefeated KU team...then maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] ...White will have votes taken from him cause of Slaton and Reynaud.... [/ QUOTE ] What???? Reynaud??? How is he going to take votes away from White??? Honestly, unless White has two OUTSTANDING games to finish the season, don't expect him to be invited to the Downtown Athletic Club in December... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 yeah they only take the top 3 to the program. So I will say it will be Tebow, the qb of the winning Kansas/Mizzou game, and Matt Ryan if he wins the ACC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Actually, they take as many as five, if the voting is close and there are no clear frontrunners as there are this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,526 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 who was runner up to troy smith last year? mcfadden maybe? who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] who was runner up to troy smith last year? mcfadden maybe? who else? [/ QUOTE ] Arkansas running back Darren McFadden finished second, Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn was third and West Virginia running back Steve Slaton was fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poker 10 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I do not think he is the best player in the nation even tho ive been on the Tebow band wagon since i saw him on ESPN while he was still in high school but in my opinion Tebow will more than likely win it he has the stats to back it and a nice fan base i know stats are not everything or Colt would win it but i dont believe anyone in that time zone will ever win it . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,526 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] who was runner up to troy smith last year? mcfadden maybe? who else? [/ QUOTE ] Arkansas running back Darren McFadden finished second, Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn was third and West Virginia running back Steve Slaton was fourth. [/ QUOTE ]did slaton get invited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 theyve had three there the past few seasons. it will be three again this year i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhisman 10 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 no he was not there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhschamps04 15 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I know he wont get it but there is only one guy that deserves it and thats.....Glenn Dorsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIDIRON 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I think Tebow has it......being a sophmore could take votes from him. If not him Mcfadden has the statistical backup with maybe White following in third....White could be higher depending on what the Mountaineers do the final two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 if linemen could get it, Dorsey would definitely win it. Maybe his stats arent as high in tackles and such, but just knowing he is there has opened up opportunities for the other linemen to bring people down. Dorsey is always double teamed, as a lineman to be double teamed, you know you are good. Dorsey would without a doubt win the heisman if they were to include, but we all know that will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] if linemen could get it, Dorsey would definitely win it. Maybe his stats arent as high in tackles and such, but just knowing he is there has opened up opportunities for the other linemen to bring people down. Dorsey is always double teamed, as a lineman to be double teamed, you know you are good. Dorsey would without a doubt win the heisman if they were to include, but we all know that will never happen. [/ QUOTE ] Glenn Dorsey is a great defensive player, there's no doubt about that. However, I think people simply assume he's the best, because he plays for LSU, and LSU gets quite a bit of national exposure. If you look at the stats, George Selvie from South Florida is the most dynamic defensive player in the country. Chris Long from Virginia is always double-teamed, even triple-teamed, and often held, and still has 12 sacks on the season (also sixth in the nation in tackles for loss). That also allows Virginia's other defensive end, Jeffrey Fitzgerald, to make plays of his own (5 sacks, a pick-6, among other things). Those three are the cream of the crop, no doubt. However, I think that an assumption that Dorsey is automatically the best defensive player, hands-down, is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 yes Selvie and Long are great players. no lie. I think the draft this year should be interesting. Im calling Dorset, Chris Long, Jake Long and Selvie to go top 10. thats four linemen in the top ten of the NFL draft..pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I agree with Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, and Jake Long going in the top 10. Selvie might slip to later on: there's some concern about him being undersized. However, this is definitely a bumper crop of solid linemen. High time the big guys get their due! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I believe Selvie can make it even with his size, but its up to NFL scouts. I'm with you though, I can almost guarantee Dorsey and both Longs go top 10, if not top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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