kevin 13 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 JM was left with a little over 3 thousand dollars short on their expenses in wheeling. People from the school had to go around to local businesses this week to ask for donations to cover it.Way to go WVSSAC.Way to take care of the kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeavers 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 This is not all that suprising to me. They spent it all in the casinos and stripclubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 thats pathetic. i guess they had too good of a time at the stripclub/coffee shop/steakhouse right outside of the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I wonder if there is any type of action that can be taken against the SSAC if JM didn't get something they were promised or entitled to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs73 157 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 to me as a outsider this seems to be another good reason to move the playoffs to the middle of the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 This sounds a little strange to me. I believe what you say, but it seems like we're missing some info somewhere. Â How could JM be $3000 short? I mean, how much did Bluefield get to cover their expenses and why weren't they short? I would guess the two schools expenses were pretty similar, though I don't know how many players and coaches each has. Â What is the procedure a school has to go through to get their expenses reimbursed? Does the SSAC "guarantee" each participating school a certain amount, or is there a cap on the amount they will cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Each school is paid by the mile, given a certain amount for food and rooms. If the school goes over this amount, they must pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomavs 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 JM went up on Thursday morning so I'm guessing they stayed Thursday and Friday nights? I had heard that Bluefield's starters went up on Wednesday and the rest of the team went up Thursday? How about the bands -- do they foot their own bills to Wheeling or is any of it covered? Â Also, does anyone know if or how much each participating school gets out of the ticket sales? Or does it all go to the WVSSAC? I read previously that the attendance at the AA was around 4,200. If we say half were students and half were adults, that's roughly around $29,000 in ticket sales. Do the two schools get some of that (I hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 They get none of the gate. Some schools use their money to charter buses. This usually cost more than the rate per mile. If you take school buses, than you will make money. It is very hard on schools that have to travel 5 hours. It happened a few years ago when Powell Valley had to travel 10hours to their state final, almost to Deleware state line. Their mileage check was sometrhing like 8000.00. Not long after that they put all finals at a central location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] JM went up on Thursday morning so I'm guessing they stayed Thursday and Friday nights? I had heard that Bluefield's starters went up on Wednesday and the rest of the team went up Thursday? How about the bands -- do they foot their own bills to Wheeling or is any of it covered? Â Also, does anyone know if or how much each participating school gets out of the ticket sales? Or does it all go to the WVSSAC? I read previously that the attendance at the AA was around 4,200. If we say half were students and half were adults, that's roughly around $29,000 in ticket sales. Do the two schools get some of that (I hope). Â [/ QUOTE ] Â all of bluefield went up thursday i believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomavs 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Â Â all of bluefield went up thursday i believe... Â [/ QUOTE ] Â I was told the starters went up on Wed by the parent of one of the Bluefield 9th grade players and so I assumed it was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Also, does anyone know if or how much each participating school gets out of the ticket sales? Or does it all go to the WVSSAC? I read previously that the attendance at the AA was around 4,200. If we say half were students and half were adults, that's roughly around $29,000 in ticket sales. Do the two schools get some of that (I hope). Â [/ QUOTE ] Â The $$AC give gate money to the schools? LMAO Â Not to make fun of you, but the $$AC is all about the money and only care about the kids because they bring in the money. The kids are nothing more than a paycheck to the $$AC. They care about nothing else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Let's get WVVA to check it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomavs 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Not to make fun of you, but the $$AC is all about the money and only care about the kids because they bring in the money. The kids are nothing more than a paycheck to the $$AC. They care about nothing else... Â [/ QUOTE ] Â Boy, what a shame. I've stupidly assumed for years that the participating schools got a little something from it. At least a small percentage to put back into their programs since they earned and deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not to make fun of you, but the $$AC is all about the money and only care about the kids because they bring in the money. The kids are nothing more than a paycheck to the $$AC. They care about nothing else... Â [/ QUOTE ] Â Boy, what a shame. I've stupidly assumed for years that the participating schools got a little something from it. At least a small percentage to put back into their programs since they earned and deserve it. Â [/ QUOTE ] Â You'd think. However, the money is better placed in other areas such as in the wallets of the $$AC folks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Let's get WVVA to check it out... Â [/ QUOTE ] Â Seriously, if I was promised something that I didn't get then I'd make a stink about it to the media. And to answer someone's question from earlier about whose covered under travel expenses. It's my understand that the $$AC only provides travel expenses for the teams, not the band and/or cheerleaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeavers 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 [ QUOTE ] JM went up on Thursday morning so I'm guessing they stayed Thursday and Friday nights? I had heard that Bluefield's starters went up on Wednesday and the rest of the team went up Thursday? How about the bands -- do they foot their own bills to Wheeling or is any of it covered? Â Also, does anyone know if or how much each participating school gets out of the ticket sales? Or does it all go to the WVSSAC? I read previously that the attendance at the AA was around 4,200. If we say half were students and half were adults, that's roughly around $29,000 in ticket sales. Do the two schools get some of that (I hope). Â [/ QUOTE ] Â Bluefield's band stayed at Wheeling Park High School. That might be something about it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavsRock 21 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 It was said 2 weeks ago by someone that James Monroe and Bluefiled should've boycotted the game in Wheeling and played in Princeton. Â After going to Wheeling, I understand why, it's one of the armpits of WV. It's something that I think might be considered at some point, especially with the rising cost of fuel and everything, but no one will jepordize their teams chances of winning state to do it. Â If had the time and money though, I've seen lawsuits won over alot less. Of all the screwed up things Virginia does in the playoffs, they've got the Championship game right, it needs to be rotated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom 10 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Blfd entire team went to Wheeling on thursday. They stayed Thursday and Friday nights and returned Saturday afternoon. Im also wondering what were the different expenses and allowances between the 2 teams..where is the discrepency in the $3000 amount?? Im by no means a fan of the SSAC but if one team is within limits and one is a major amount over, the difference should be glaringly obvious. Where was JM's extra expense or where were they shorted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photoguy 10 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 From the WVSSAC 2007 Fooball Playoff manual: "Schools will be reimbursed according to the following numbers as constituting the official party of each classification: A(40); AA (50); AAA (60). 4. The following shall determine the expense allowance for participating schools providing game receipts are otherwise available: A. Travel and Meal allowance: (1) Travel: 0-24 miles - 0 25 + miles - $4.00 per mile one way (2) Meal allowance: Host School: Visiting School: Games 1-2-3 Games 1-2-3 (A) $160.00 (A) $285.00 (AA) $200.00 (AA) $350.00 (AAA) $240.00 (AAA) $415.00 (3) When travel is in excess of 150 miles one way Lodging and Meals will be $30.00 per member of official party. If housing is provided gratis: $20.00 per member of official party. B. Teams that travel over 275 miles (one way) and play a night game may be reimbursed for two nights if they choose to stay. C. Teams that are entitled to stay overnight and choose not to do so will be given 50% of the amount allotted for overnight housing and meals. 5. Each participating school shall share in the net receipts according to the following schedule: First Round: 20% Second Round: 15% Third Round: 10% Championship: 5%" Â 5% of the gate for the Championship Game, this just aint right folks for any of the teams. Bands and Cheerleaders must be on thier own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 all of Bluefield's players and cheerleaders went up on thursday at noon and stayed thursday and friday night at a hotel. the band left friday morning and stayed at Wheeling Park High School for friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PioneerPA 11 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Don't feel so bad...Wayne in 2006 had to come back the night after winning the state championship. The team arrived in Wayne close to 4 am...because Wayne is 260 miles from Wheeling and wasn't eligible for the 2 night stay by 15 miles... Â The SSAC will give each participating school a brand new set of weights for its weightroom. Or at least it did a few years ago. That's about it. Wheeling Island Casino thanks you for your donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin 13 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 At my place of work my boss is a JM supporter and someone from the school came in last week asking for the donation and telling him they were that much short. Thats how I found out about it. Maybe our kids visited the casino and titty bar and ran up a bill.LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin 13 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I heard the bluefield boosters helped out the beavers. Thats probably why they wasn't short. I guess it's where our guys stayed 2 nights that probably caused the problem! Anyway I thought they claimed they made more money in Wheeling then they did Charleston. I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sources 10 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Someone should send a few emails about this to the Bluefield Daily Telegraph, WVVA, and the CBS affiliate out of Ghent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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