Fighton_3 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 A Lingenfelter Vette would eat em both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 fastest car in the world SSC Ultimate Aero: 257 mph+, 0-60 in 2.7 secs. Twin-Turbo V8 Engine with 1183 hp, base price is $654,400. Tested in March 2007 by Guinness world records, The SSC Ultimate Aero takes the lead as the fastest car in the world beating Bugatti Veyron. http://www.thesupercars.org/fastest-cars/fastest-cars-in-the-world-top-10-list/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveFan09 50 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 fastest car in the world SSC Ultimate Aero: 257 mph+, 0-60 in 2.7 secs. Twin-Turbo V8 Engine with 1183 hp, base price is $654,400. Tested in March 2007 by Guinness world records, The SSC Ultimate Aero takes the lead as the fastest car in the world beating Bugatti Veyron. http://www.thesupercars.org/fastest-cars/fastest-cars-in-the-world-top-10-list/ and its AMERICAN;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighton_3 10 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Top speed yeah it's got it. There was one of those Lingenfelters that went 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. That SSC ultimate aero looks absoultley amazing. Edited November 20, 2008 by Fighton_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 you got rid of the van? who cares how many miles...that thing was perfect! yeah man i got rid of it as much as it pains me...i loved that thing..it was my baby haha...but i got rear-ended the first week of August and the sh*t hit the fan within a month and we just had to take the 2100 for insurance money..i got a 94 lumina for 1400 haha...not the van...but im getting used to it...damn i miss my van Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 oh and The Red Dragon was my van's name haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 That thing was a beast. I wish I could have ridden in it atleast once before you traded it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 That thing was a beast. I wish I could have ridden in it atleast once before you traded it... Those were the good days. Riding around in the van with nothing better to do haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I found this article by Mitt Romney earlier this morning concerning the automotive industry and I believe that this is EXACTLY what needs to happen... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=3 Let Detroit Go Bankrupt By MITT ROMNEY Published: November 18, 2008 IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed. Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check. I love cars, American cars. I was born in Detroit, the son of an auto chief executive. In 1954, my dad, George Romney, was tapped to run American Motors when its president suddenly died. The company itself was on life support — banks were threatening to deal it a death blow. The stock collapsed. I watched Dad work to turn the company around — and years later at business school, they were still talking about it. From the lessons of that turnaround, and from my own experiences, I have several prescriptions for Detroit’s automakers. First, their huge disadvantage in costs relative to foreign brands must be eliminated. That means new labor agreements to align pay and benefits to match those of workers at competitors like BMW, Honda, Nissan and Toyota. Furthermore, retiree benefits must be reduced so that the total burden per auto for domestic makers is not higher than that of foreign producers. That extra burden is estimated to be more than $2,000 per car. Think what that means: Ford, for example, needs to cut $2,000 worth of features and quality out of its Taurus to compete with Toyota’s Avalon. Of course the Avalon feels like a better product — it has $2,000 more put into it. Considering this disadvantage, Detroit has done a remarkable job of designing and engineering its cars. But if this cost penalty persists, any bailout will only delay the inevitable. Second, management as is must go. New faces should be recruited from unrelated industries — from companies widely respected for excellence in marketing, innovation, creativity and labor relations. The new management must work with labor leaders to see that the enmity between labor and management comes to an end. This division is a holdover from the early years of the last century, when unions brought workers job security and better wages and benefits. But as Walter Reuther, the former head of the United Automobile Workers, said to my father, “Getting more and more pay for less and less work is a dead-end street.†You don’t have to look far for industries with unions that went down that road. Companies in the 21st century cannot perpetuate the destructive labor relations of the 20th. This will mean a new direction for the U.A.W., profit sharing or stock grants to all employees and a change in Big Three management culture. The need for collaboration will mean accepting sanity in salaries and perks. At American Motors, my dad cut his pay and that of his executive team, he bought stock in the company, and he went out to factories to talk to workers directly. Get rid of the planes, the executive dining rooms — all the symbols that breed resentment among the hundreds of thousands who will also be sacrificing to keep the companies afloat. Investments must be made for the future. No more focus on quarterly earnings or the kind of short-term stock appreciation that means quick riches for executives with options. Manage with an eye on cash flow, balance sheets and long-term appreciation. Invest in truly competitive products and innovative technologies — especially fuel-saving designs — that may not arrive for years. Starving research and development is like eating the seed corn. Just as important to the future of American carmakers is the sales force. When sales are down, you don’t want to lose the only people who can get them to grow. So don’t fire the best dealers, and don’t crush them with new financial or performance demands they can’t meet. It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition. I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research — on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like — that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others. I believe Washington should raise energy research spending to $20 billion a year, from the $4 billion that is spent today. The research could be done at universities, at research labs and even through public-private collaboration. The federal government should also rectify the imbedded tax penalties that favor foreign carmakers. But don’t ask Washington to give shareholders and bondholders a free pass — they bet on management and they lost. The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk. In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsawBeaver 12 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 jeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 jeep I agree. I do love jeeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 First, their huge disadvantage in costs relative to foreign brands must be eliminated. That means new labor agreements to align pay and benefits to match those of workers at competitors like BMW, Honda, Nissan and Toyota. Furthermore, retiree benefits must be reduced so that the total burden per auto for domestic makers is not higher than that of foreign producers. That extra burden is estimated to be more than $2,000 per car. Think what that means: Ford, for example, needs to cut $2,000 worth of features and quality out of its Taurus to compete with Toyota’s Avalon. Of course the Avalon feels like a better product — it has $2,000 more put into it. Considering this disadvantage, Detroit has done a remarkable job of designing and engineering its cars. But if this cost penalty persists, any bailout will only delay the inevitable. Its sad really. Neither the upper management and assembly line workers are wanting to take a cut, so they bring out the tin cup. I say slash both salaries to what japan workers make. This division is a holdover from the early years of the last century, when unions brought workers job security and better wages and benefits. But as Walter Reuther, the former head of the United Automobile Workers, said to my father, “Getting more and more pay for less and less work is a dead-end street.†So very true, and I have said it many times. The need for collaboration will mean accepting sanity in salaries and perks. At American Motors, my dad cut his pay and that of his executive team, he bought stock in the company, and he went out to factories to talk to workers directly. Get rid of the planes, the executive dining rooms — all the symbols that breed resentment among the hundreds of thousands who will also be sacrificing to keep the companies afloat. I agree here also, like i said, upper management and lower class workers and unions are both in the wrong. Good article all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I love my Mustang and will probably stick with Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane55 10 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Buick .... have owned two with NO problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesL_CcLB34 10 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 then why have you owned two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurley05 10 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm a big chevy guy..DD is a 91 silverado and i have 85 elcamino, 93 metro, and 2000 corvette. I'll take a GM product anyday over the others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm a big chevy guy..DD is a 91 silverado and i have 85 elcamino, 93 metro, and 2000 corvette. I'll take a GM product anyday over the others... You have an Elcamino and a Metro?!? Big pimpin'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveFan09 50 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 because they have heated tailgates.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marionman 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 which one do you like better? Let all the businesses go bankrupt b/c its their fault and im not paying for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane55 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 then why have you owned two? LOL I wore the first one out ! I am not YOUNG ...my second one is l6 years old now :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurley05 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 You have an Elcamino and a Metro?!? Big pimpin'!! the metro is awesome especially with the top down. yea its a convertable.. dont be jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 the metro is awesome especially with the top down. yea its a convertable.. dont be jealous Actually, I am a little jealous. lol I drive a 4-door Ford Contour, so a convertable Metro sounds awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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