obama speaks with the kids

[fieldgeneral 10]

why is such a big deal being made of him speaking to our students about staying in school, and working your hardest and so forth.

 

I figured I would find several answers from the Right side of things here. Not looking for an arguement, just curious what the fuss is.

[VHSLhelper 571]

too many sheeple think he's going to brainwash their kids.

seriously, even if his Kenyan side can make it happen, what's his gain? It's not like Johnny 8th grader can help pass the HCR bill, or even vote next time.

WAAAAAAAAY too many sheeple out there.

Parents out past Lynchburg are unreal. In the Republican areas around Richmond & Tidewater, they were talking about a skip day. Wow. So anti-Obama that not only do they not want him to ENCOURAGE the kids, they approve SKIPPING SCHOOL. Too many school districts out there are saying no to the viewing, but allowing kids to opt in. Teachers and admins are saying "there's too much going on on the 1st day of school to take time out for this. REALLY?????? When did this change? Un-f'n real.

[EH31 2,533]

Someone r wrote a nice letter to the editor in the bdt today about this subject. Its definitely worth reading.

[VHSLhelper 571]

looks like there aren't as many sheeple around here as believed.

Or maybe they were smart enough to not comment on something they hadn't actually seen/read.

[hokie07 11]

looks like there aren't as many sheeple around here as believed.

Or maybe they were smart enough to not comment on something they hadn't actually seen/read.

 

Saw this and read it several days ago, actually.

We have as much to say about this as the left side had to say about the czars in Washington.

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

why is such a big deal being made of him speaking to our students about staying in school, and working your hardest and so forth.

 

I figured I would find several answers from the Right side of things here. Not looking for an arguement, just curious what the fuss is.

 

It depends on what was actually said or if there was an underlying message, otherwise perhaps it shouldn't have been a big concern. I myself didn't read to much about the story.

[RichlandsAlum 678]

I have a couple of major concerns.

 

1. My 7 year old son is apparently a staunch conservative who does not like Obama. Seriously. The day after the election, I did my best to explain to him that the country works best when both "sides" are active, but he wouldn't have any of it. So I'm more than a little concerned that he might pipe up and say something today that will get him in trouble.

 

2. I have no problem whatsoever with Obama addressing school kids. In fact, I think that's a wonderful thing and an example of inspired leadership on his part. My problem is with his idiot fan base (such as the NEA) who seem ready to use this as an opportunity to advance their own political agenda. Why is it suddenly a good idea to develop "lesson plans" based on the address?

 

Otherwise, I do think this is much ado about nothing. But that seems to be par for the course.

[fieldgeneral 10]

I have a couple of major concerns.

 

1. My 7 year old son is apparently a staunch conservative who does not like Obama. Seriously. The day after the election, I did my best to explain to him that the country works best when both "sides" are active, but he wouldn't have any of it. So I'm more than a little concerned that he might pipe up and say something today that will get him in trouble.

 

2. I have no problem whatsoever with Obama addressing school kids. In fact, I think that's a wonderful thing and an example of inspired leadership on his part. My problem is with his idiot fan base (such as the NEA) who seem ready to use this as an opportunity to advance their own political agenda. Why is it suddenly a good idea to develop "lesson plans" based on the address?

 

Otherwise, I do think this is much ado about nothing. But that seems to be par for the course.

 

What's the big deal about a stay in school speech and do your best on tests and do your part for our country by staying in school. Have a read at the speech.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/obama.school.speech/index.html

[RichlandsAlum 678]

What's the big deal about a stay in school speech and do your best on tests and do your part for our country by staying in school. Have a read at the speech.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/obama.school.speech/index.html

 

 

As I said, I have no problem with the President's action whatsoever. In fact, I think it's a good move on his part and I applaud it.

 

The question I have is why educators feel the need to add to (or detract from) the content of that speech. It's the "lesson plans" and accompanying "supplemental activities" that I find questionable. Not saying I necessarily object -- but I do question the need for them.

[BeaverHokie 35]

My daughter (she's 10 and in the 5th grade) was sent home with a note that discussed the speech, and had an opt-out permission slip on it. I talked to her, and said that I had no problem with her listening to the speech. She's extremely intelligent (she's in her county's version of the gifted program, and reads at a high school level), and I'll let her make her own decisions about the speech.

 

For what it's worth, she appears to be heading more conservative than I am. I voted for McCain (held my nose),and consider myself a hybrid between a conservative and a libertarian. My daughter does not like Obama at all, even though I try to temper it a little, and say that the policies are what to focus on, not the person.

[Deleted Account 5,203]

Saw this and read it several days ago, actually.

We have as much to say about this as the left side had to say about the czars in Washington.

 

This.

[Guest JJBrickface]

My daughter (she's 10 and in the 5th grade) was sent home with a note that discussed the speech, and had an opt-out permission slip on it. I talked to her, and said that I had no problem with her listening to the speech. She's extremely intelligent (she's in her county's version of the gifted program, and reads at a high school level), and I'll let her make her own decisions about the speech.

 

For what it's worth, she appears to be heading more conservative than I am. I voted for McCain (held my nose),and consider myself a hybrid between a conservative and a libertarian. My daughter does not like Obama at all, even though I try to temper it a little, and say that the policies are what to focus on, not the person.

 

 

Your last few words say it all. "Focus on the policies, not the person."

 

I would say 90% of Obama supporters voted for the person and not his policies.

[jets 10]

i bet they did this in russia too

[VHSLhelper 571]

Your last few words say it all. "Focus on the policies, not the person."

 

I would say 90% of Obama supporters voted for the person and not his policies.

 

I'd say closer to 10%, with 90% voting against McCain and HIS poliices.

[EH31 2,533]

I'd say closer to 10%, with 90% voting against McCain and HIS poliices.

 

Burn haha

[Deleted Account 5,203]

I'd say closer to 10%, with 90% voting against McCain and HIS poliices.

 

I respectfully, but vehemently, disagree with this. Flip the numbers, and you've got it.

[fieldgeneral 10]

of what you think of his policies or any president's ....a stay in school speech and giving the students responsibility for themselves is great. Go into an elementary classroom and you will see what I mean. It's ridiculous the excuses and lack of responsibility children have. Regardless of his stance on controversial issues.....not allowing students to watch it was a disservice to them. Congratulations to the idiots who complained and their children missed out.

[Guest BEAVERTAIL]

of what you think of his policies or any president's ....a stay in school speech and giving the students responsibility for themselves is great. Go into an elementary classroom and you will see what I mean. It's ridiculous the excuses and lack of responsibility children have. Regardless of his stance on controversial issues.....not allowing students to watch it was a disservice to them. Congratulations to the idiots who complained and their children missed out.

 

I see exactly what you are saying.

 

I havent paid a bit of attention to this debate, as I dont have cable (yet) so I only read what I want on the net. But my question is this to all of you...

 

Would you let your kid watch something you have not seen? Or know what it says? And then you must vehemently disagree with it. (The Obama Ad shown at school, comes to mind) Thats the only argument I can think of for not watching it.

 

Since the Obama people posted the speech/notes of what he said, and I read them (good speech btw) I dont see why anyone would not let their kid watch. I mean he says nothing political, and is purely motivating. I havent been paying attention too much, so maybe I missed something.

[Guest JJBrickface]

I didn't have a problem with the speech, in fact I was for it. I think a lot of people heard rumors that he would speak about the importance of passing health care. Initially they may have been in the speech, who knows? However, the message he had was good.

[Guest JJBrickface]

I'd say closer to 10%, with 90% voting against McCain and HIS poliices.

 

You don't really believe that do you?

 

The majority of voters have no clue about policies from either candidate and vote solely on who is most popular.

[fieldgeneral 10]

I see exactly what you are saying.

 

I havent paid a bit of attention to this debate, as I dont have cable (yet) so I only read what I want on the net. But my question is this to all of you...

 

Would you let your kid watch something you have not seen? Or know what it says? And then you must vehemently disagree with it. (The Obama Ad shown at school, comes to mind) Thats the only argument I can think of for not watching it.

 

Since the Obama people posted the speech/notes of what he said, and I read them (good speech btw) I dont see why anyone would not let their kid watch. I mean he says nothing political, and is purely motivating. I havent been paying attention too much, so maybe I missed something.

 

Some schools around here chose not to show it all........the craziest thing I've ever heard and as for the lesson plans......I would have just had the students pick a career and they could research that career to see what level of education was needed.

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

In hindsight I wouldn't be surprised if the administration didn't tone down their speech before publicizing it because of the concerns. It seems to have gone well enough overall as is went.

Although I didn't read much about it before because I don't have children and some things simply don't register as anything to really waste my time on (as with all the controversy with that policeman), I can see how there might have been concern, the media has done a lot to portray the president as more of a "king or ruler" than an elected official who works for the people, lots of examples of this euphoria type of worship, and it wouldn't take much to plant the seed that the president is someone who is their ruler rather than a president for the people into the minds of youths. But, again it seems to have gone over well.

[VHSLhelper 571]

You don't really believe that do you?

 

The majority of voters have no clue about policies from either candidate and vote solely on who is most popular.

 

Do YOU really believe THAT?

Then how do you explain the last 2 elections?

Both losers got more than 45.5% of the vote. Shouldn't that be more like 20%?

[bucfan64 309]

I think that the whole point of the controversy has been forgotten. It has nothing to do with a president giving a speech to kids. It had everything to do with the lesson plans that the White House prepared for American Classrooms. There was some material in the lesson plans that appeared by some to be setting Obama up on a pedestal. For example and write an essay about how you could help the President achieve his goals, which would imply that you agreed with his goals. Another essay was to be written about how the President inspires you. This appears to many to be self-glorificiation on the part of the President and they didn't like the idea.

 

I would like to point out that when George Bush (senior) delivered a similiar speech a few years ago, the media went CRAZY. The DEMOCRATS blew a gasket and even requested a congressional hearing on the matter. So this is not the first time that an uproar has been made over a presidential speech to kids.

 

What is amazing is the fact that the DEMS found it evil when Bush Sr. did it and now they can't understand why anyone would object to THE OBAMA giving a message to school kids.

 

**** Yeah I meant to call him THE OBAMA, that is not a typo

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

They are the next generation of voters, influence them with socialism and they won't know any better. So there's a reason for people to be very cautious if not concerned when this administration intends to speak to youths.

If you listen to the president's words carefully over time, you'll realize it's all about him, simple words such as "my vice president", not america's but his, ect..