GC-Richlands, Graham-Bluefield, Gile-BBurg

[Hokiebird7 1,416]

3 minutes ago, EH31 said:

 

Typical of a fan of a team that got blown out to cry "no class" 

Yea that's exactly what I'm doing lol

[TTownTigers 82]

2 minutes ago, Ryan4VT said:

6 minutes before they threw that ball it was 28-14. I'm not justifying it, just saying that the game was close there for a while until a 6 min stretch did Giles in. 

Blacksburg only outgained Giles by about 41 yards. Bidleman is legit and will beat a lot of teams by himself. 

How on earth was the score 48-14 and there was only a 41 total yard difference?  Right off the bat, one thinks about the turnover margin.  What was the turnover difference?  Did Blacksburg score quickly and Giles have some 40-50 yard offensive possessions that didn't end in scores, etc?

[SWVAgridiron 1,469]

3 minutes ago, Ryan4VT said:

6 minutes before they threw that ball it was 28-14. I'm not justifying it, just saying that the game was close there for a while until a 6 min stretch did Giles in. 

Blacksburg only outgained Giles by about 41 yards. Bidleman is legit and will beat a lot of teams by himself. 

Beidleman is a very good athlete. I just wish we had a more experienced full back to take some of the pressure off of him.

[SWVAgridiron 1,469]

Just now, TTownTigers said:

How on earth was the score 48-14 and there was only a 41 total yard difference?  Right off the bat, one thinks about the turnover margin.  What was the turnover difference?  Did Blacksburg score quickly and Giles have some 40-50 yard offensive possessions that didn't end in scores, etc?

I don't think either team turned the ball over but Giles drove the field on many possessions and came up empty but Bburg got great field possession on most possessions so I guess that's how.

[EH31 2,518]

7 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said:

Beidleman is a very good athlete. I just wish we had a more experienced full back to take some of the pressure off of him.

Why didn't the chapman kid come out?

[Hokiebird7 1,416]

1 minute ago, EH31 said:

Why didn't the chapman kid come out?

Had a kid and wanted to take care of it...but I'm hearing he just didn't want to play...who knows

[nrv_football 81]

12 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said:

Beidleman is a very good athlete. I just wish we had a more experienced full back to take some of the pressure off of him.

Giles has some talent just no experience. Maybe as the season progresses Giles will find another go to running back.

[Ryan4VT 4,557]

17 minutes ago, TTownTigers said:

How on earth was the score 48-14 and there was only a 41 total yard difference?  Right off the bat, one thinks about the turnover margin.  What was the turnover difference?  Did Blacksburg score quickly and Giles have some 40-50 yard offensive possessions that didn't end in scores, etc?

The final was 51-14. Beidleman had 222 yards. Several loooooooong runs that didn't go for scores and the Bruins just clamped down on D. Was very much a bend but don't break approach from Blacksburg, and it worked. There were no turnovers for either team. 

[TTownTigers 82]

1 minute ago, Ryan4VT said:

The final was 51-14. Beidleman had 222 yards. Several loooooooong runs that didn't go for scores and the Bruins just clamped down on D. Was very much a bend but don't break approach from Blacksburg, and it worked. There were no turnovers for either team. 

WOW!.  That's a lot of yards, and it tells me Giles is dangerous.  222 yards on the defending Div 3 state champions is a crazy good effort.  Giles could actually go 9-1, even with the Blacksburg loss.  Well, of course they "could", but seriously, there is a very good chance of Giles going 9-1.  I just can't see Glenvar or Graham beating them.  

[Hokiebird7 1,416]

Just now, TTownTigers said:

WOW!.  That's a lot of yards, and it tells me Giles is dangerous.  222 yards on the defending Div 3 state champions is a crazy good effort.  Giles could actually go 9-1, even with the Blacksburg loss.  Well, of course they "could", but seriously, there is a very good chance of Giles going 9-1.  I just can't see Glenvar or Graham beating them.  

I don't know...Graham has a good team and glenvar had our number right now...gonna be tough for sure

[bgibb 207]

On 8/25/2017 at 10:07 PM, TTownTigers said:

Well, the Gate just couldn't get it done.  We get out midway in 3rd and watched the Bluefield and Graham game on a laptop.  As for Gate City, our lineplay is better, but with our style of play, it has to be perfect and near turnover free, or we lose.  The decision to pass early in the game after running down the field was boneheaded, but it wouldn't have mattered.  Richlands was better, but Richlands is not as explosive as last year.  Richlands is solid and physical, but not quite as explosive as last year.  I just hope we can get back to our winning ways at GC.  It's going to take time and patience I guess.  It sickens me to see these losses, but I stand by my prediction.  I still think we are 7-3.  We still had flashes in the Richlands game and credit Richlands for whipping us, but the 27-6 score in my opinion was worse than the contest.  It felt more like a 21-6 type score or 20-6 type score, but no question, Richlands controlled it and they were in no position to "lose" the game at any point.  The Blues are going 8-2 though.  They are getting 2 losses at least this year.  Blacksburg is obviously the real deal and the state title run wasn't a fluke, it was just the start. Bluefield and Union and Graham will be nailbiters for Richlands.

As for Graham and Bluefield, I kind of echoed this in one thread about Graham and I will echo it again.  A major problem exists their with offensive coaching.  They just don't know what they are doing, period.  I would love for GC to have those athletes.  I noticed it at GC. Where are their hitches, their flanker screens, their bubble screens, and noticeable again when watching their second half against Bluefield.  Equally important, the Graham Head Coach is directly responsible for that loss.  I echoed this earlier in a thread that the difference would be the Coach of Bluefield besting the Coach of Graham,and it was noticeable at Legion Field when number 4 was not the starting QB and number 10 was.  Number 10 may be the best athlete or at least top 5 athletes in SWVA and if he were at flanker/WR, it would be noticeable. He is also the worst passing High School QB in SWVA.  He can't make reads and he can't make a ten yard throw, but he could certainly take one to the house if receiving a 10 yard in route.  Their is no way possible the Graham coaching staff could not have that many practices and see that number 4 is clearly the QB, and number 10 is the WR.  That decision (coaching) cost Graham the football game, and again, those little things like the taunting and discipline stuff, those little things always show in the form of lack of concentration with the fumble late on the goal line, but Graham looked better from the half I seen and it shouldn't have been that close if Graham had any offensive coaching.  The staff had to be either blind or just flat out crazy not to have 10 at WR/Flanker and 4 at QB after having 3 weeks of practice and scrimmages leading up until the Bluefield game  This tells me, the decision made by the coach are shaky, and it will show when the switch is made and the difference is seen in Graham's play this year.  When that happens, the Bluefield loss will really sting Graham fans because they know they surely gave the game away.  I still don't know if it would matter because it appears Graham doesn't know how to use it's athletes.  I predicted Bluefield by 3 at 24-21 and wasn't far off.  I apologize to Graham fans if my comments are offensive.  I am just calling it like I see it, but you have a major x's and o's coaching issue offensively, and it not only starts with the lack of getting your athletes the ball in space by using screens, but also by a major position change needed with 4 and 10 that was noticeable even at GC.

As for Giles and BBurg.  I think many will count Giles out because of this and that's a mistake.  I didn't listen to or see any of this game, but only the score updates on my cell at E. Hicks.  Giles handled a very good Bluefield team and they are the real deal and yes, they have the ability to handle Graham in regular season and Richlands, Union, Graham in the playoffs.  Not saying they will, but they are right their with Richlands, Union and Graham.  They ran into an absolutely nasty opponent that isn't the Blacksburg of 10 years ago with the 5-6 or 4-6 season.  Blacksburg is big up front, physical, and not just Beck at RB.  They have major loads of talent in front of Beck blocking for him and a coach that knows how to utilize speed in open space.  Blacksburg will likely repeat as state champion and this time, the record will be much better in regular season.  But at for Giles, never count this bunch out.  I would like to think GC could make a run in the playoffs, but we just aren't there yet on the level of Richlands, Union, and Graham, or Giles in SWVA.  

I think your thoughts on Graham are 100% correct. We will win some games this year but a lot will be closer than they should be if we don't make a QB change. Cam is an excellent athlete and would make big noise if he was in as a wide receiver or even a running back, but QB is not his position. Graham had opportunity after opportunity on offense and couldn't move the ball. Not taking anything away from Bluefield's defense but the play calling all night for Graham was very predictable. I don't understand how you don't design more plays around Cooke and get him in the open field and space to create some opportunity. If you take away the fumble return for a td, Graham only scores once and that is unacceptable with the talent we have. I will say I am very proud and pleased with our defense. Did a very good job. If Graham's coaches will make a few changes the season could be really special, but if the line up stays the way it is, I see a 6-4 season.