I don’t see it as gaming the system. They aren’t skirting they rules to gain an advantage. They are going by what’s mandated by the VHSL. They don’t play a Richlands schedule. Or a Union. But they dropped the Jenkins’ and the Shelby Valley’s of the world and at least play Burton and Pikeville. Honaker is a longtime rival of the original schools.
Gaming may not be the best choice but they have taken advantage of a flawed system. Playing Burton and Honaker should not garner the same base points as Graham and Richlands.
No but Burton and Honaker are. The system is broken when what could happen this year is plausible. I’d say the same if it were any other school in this boat.
I would rather play a 7 win Class A school than Lee or Lebanon.
Sure but what’s your point? A 7 win Burton team counts as much as a 7 win Graham team. That’s the problem. I tip my hat to RV for gaming the system but this is a problem. Union hypothetically could be 9-1, M7 champs and have beaten RV/RLands/Graham and be seeded below RV.
RV has gamed the point system. It’s just jacked up system but credit RV for exposing its flaw. If the Wolfpack can continue to play 7-8 win single A schools every year they are going to be hard to ever point.
I was at Union, they called 13 penalties on us and I didn’t complain once. Why? They knew where to mark the ball and control the game. Far cry from last week.
I don't agree on the Adkins semi-bashing. The kid had to deal with Union in his backfield all night long and was still just a moment from taking any play to the house. He turned plays that should be a 2-3 yard loss into 7-8 yard gains and that's the sign of an elite back. His coach didn't do him many favors tonight, I thought his number should have been called way more often. I wonder if he's 100% healthy.
Polier was fantastic tonight, he picked up the slack big time with Lomax out and Guerrant cramping badly. All the LBs were great, Polier, Jones, Guerrant, 14, 30, etc..
I don't believe you have to try and discredit or slight Adkins to praise Polier.
Adkins is great. Polier out played him and plays tougher competition. Thus, Polier should be ahead of him in POY vote. No slight to Adkins, just facts.
If Polier is not D Player of the year in Mountain 7 then folks we have a problem. Could even argue for O player of the year also. Yes Adkins has 1500 yards but look who those yards come against. All im saying is Big time players have big time games when its a Big time game like tonight. Sproles is good but does not hold a candle to Polier. And I thought this last year as well. Ridgeviews very weak non district games have caught up with them. The HUGE line got knocked of the ball on both O and D and linebackers were for the most part ineffective. Just think they still have Abingdon and Pikeville yet to go. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.
I don’t really think it’s an argument? Adkins has no business winning POY awards after tonight. Polier out played him, his team won the game and Unions schedule is much more challenging than RV.
For good reason too. Coaches don’t have to retain all of the rules like we do. We get asked every game by them about a ruling, or a clarification. We have to do this while being yelled at while being screamed at by the very coach you are trying to help.
Here you go 1inStripes. Refs should be paid more than coaches.
For the record: I’m highly in favor of raising officials pay if the quality improved. Simply put, not knowing where to place the ball is unacceptable, period. Stuff like this happens far too often.
So officials are now stating publicly they should receive more pay for hour than coaches? Even better, others are defending them? What a wacky world. $18+ an hour for that bunch last week to not even know where to mark the ball on a kickoff out of bounds.... As Archie Bunker used to say Good Night Nurse
Per hour officials make more than anyone else associated with a high school game. How about comparing your pay per hour with a coach, cheerleading sponsor, clock operator, any newspaper covering the game or the radio people. This poor official bit has gotten really old and our local association runs it in the ground.
Highly compensated huh? Are you taking into account travel expenses, time away from our day jobs and families, association fees, uniforms? It all adds up. I’ve accepted the criticism, harsh comments and wacky schedule from day 1 and embrace it for what it is. We do it because we love the game. The rule book reads like a legal document. Some work harder than others to grasp it and in the heat of the moment, we’re asked to recall something in our brain verbatim. Even the D-1 guys get tangled up, so give us the break instead.
Does any work get compensated for travel time or time away from their family? How about the materials they need to work with? So, yes making $75-$80 for 2.5 hours of work in SWVA is good money.
For what it's worth, the video coverage is spectacular for a high school game. Believe it or not, as an association, we can not always get film from coaches when we ask for it to review our performance during games. If more schools did this, you'd see the level of officiating definitely improve.
Disclaimer: I am not familiar with any of this crew and I was not a part of this crew. I was in Saltville. Here's something to ponder on. Every time we take the field on a Friday in the regular season, we have 5 sets of eyes watching 22 players, plus benches, coaches, parents, volunteers, and the clock. The perfect game has not been officiated yet at any level. We get one look at everything from field level and it is expected to be called perfectly and most of the time, the biggest critics do not have a clue of the actual rule they're questioning. I know I miss something EVERY game. So please, do not assign blame to any official, 99% of us do the best job we can for the game we are assigned. If anyone thinks they are more qualified, just let me know and I will let you know how to get on the field and help us out next season.
This stuff always cracks me up. Officials are highly compensated and most of the games they officiate aren’t close. God forbid anyone ask a trained official that’s making in excess of $25/hr to properly know the rules. Give me a break....
Paintsville has some athletes. They like to throw it quick and get the ball to their athletes in space. The play of Union’s LBs will be key in this one for the defense. On offense it’s the same story every week. Can Paintsville handle the T and the repeated beating of the line and backs. I’ll be curious to see how Paintsville plays the T from a formation point of view.
Y’all worried about a horn and I’m still trying to figure out how Union snapped the ball, held it and kicked it 22 yards in 2 seconds at Graham. Someone needs to call the Guinness Book of Records. NFL teams can’t do that.
According to the paper he ran the ball 35 times last night. I think his workload is a legitimate concern. If he’s running it 35 times in a 3 score game how many times will he run it against Abingdon?
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Unofficial 2C & D Points Week 7
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Gaming may not be the best choice but they have taken advantage of a flawed system. Playing Burton and Honaker should not garner the same base points as Graham and Richlands.
It ain’t RVs fault but there’s a problem here.