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They distort and pervert the word of God to fit their malevolent cause. There is no place in this country for their hateful ways, and their indoctrination of their next generation is the most egregious act they perform. One of these days, their community will be shook to its core; let's see if their message holds up when that happens.

Right, it seems like any potential plan we could put in place has vast flaws. Stricter gun control? Criminals will get guns anyway. Load schools and government buildings with police force? Police forces are scraping for money without those added costs. Educate the population about signs of mental illness? Signs of mental illness are incredibly variable at best, unknown at worst. Debunk the stigma surrounding mental health, and visiting mental health professionals? Change like that is one or two generations away, if we start this minute. How do we keep guns out of the hands of people who intend harm? That's the age-old question...

Yeah, good win for y'all. Do what it takes to win, get some momentum going forward. Also good to hit some 3's!

Shew. Bad loss #1 of the season. My guess is it won't be the last.

Yuck. Uninspired first half there for the Hokies. In other words, they look like the Hokies of the past couple of years.

Lots of empty seats and no excitement in the arena. Not exactly the "hostile environment" we were expecting...

This live stream is so clutch.

At first I thought you were using the football definition of "offense".

"Suicide" isn't a verb. You would have to say "committed suicide". It's like saying I went and "fooded" at a mexican restaurant tonight.

VT just beat #15 Oklahoma State to go to 7-0. Is it time to re-calibrate our expectations for this team?

Ha! I can assure you, that trophy case isn't meant for a lacrosse national championship. But don't copy us there. It just gets awkward after a while.

WOW. This is definitely the correct thing to bring up in a thread entitled "I Didn't See This Coming". I certainly didn't see this coming.

It seems like he could have waited around to see if Auburn, NC State, etc. would offer him a position. Couldn't he do better than Kentucky?

Looks like UVA also picked up on the LUNCHPAIL mentality. Nothing says "blue collar" like those Wahoos.

Here is Andy Bitter's write up about VT's possible bowl: http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/317208 BLACKSBURG - For the first time since joining the ACC, Virginia Tech won't be going to one of the league's top two bowl games. But in a muddled bowl picture, just where the Hokies will end up is anybody's guess at this point. Virginia Tech, which qualified for a bowl for a 20th straight season with a 17-14 win over rival Virginia on Saturday, could end up in one of four different bowls this postseason. In order of selection, they are: the Russell Athletic Bowl in Orlando, Fla.; the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas; the Belk Bowl in Charlotte, N.C.; and the Music City Bowl in Nashville, Tenn. With Miami and North Carolina ineligible for the postseason, Virginia Tech will be considered with a cluster of ACC teams that include N.C. State (7-5), Duke (6-6) and possibly Georgia Tech (6-6). Although the Hokies finished .500, their worst record since 1992, they could be an attractive option for the Russell Athletic Bowl (formerly the Champs Sports Bowl), which picks after the Orange and Chick-fil-A. Virginia Tech has never played in the bowl, which has been in Orlando since 2001, always finishing slightly above it in the selection process since joining the ACC. N.C. State, which is the only bowl eligible ACC team other than Florida State and Clemson with a winning record, figures to be an option, although it's unclear if coach Tom O'Brien's firing Sunday will have any effect on the team's postseason attractiveness. The Wolfpack have also played in the bowl five times in the game's 22-year history, including as recently as two years ago, when it beat West Virginia 23-7. Complicating the issue is Georgia Tech's status. The Yellow Jackets will play in the ACC championship game Saturday against Florida State only because Miami self-imposed a postseason ban and removed itself from consideration to represent the Coastal Division. The Yellow Jackets, who are 14-point underdogs to the Seminoles, would fall below .500 with a loss. The NCAA postseason handbook states that teams are required to have as many wins as losses to be bowl eligible. Last season, UCLA was granted a waiver to play in a bowl with a 6-7 record after losing the Pac-12 title game to Oregon. But the NCAA's Board of Directors specifically addressed that scenario in August, outlining a selection protocol that created a pecking order of pools of teams to be chosen for a bowl should there not be enough eligible schools. Conference champions who finished 6-7 are on that list, but that's only if there aren't enough bowl-eligible teams. Right now, there are 70 eligible teams for 70 slots in 35 bowls, which could create a BCS-or-bust scenario for the Yellow Jackets. ACC officials confirmed that Georgia Tech has filed a waiver to be bowl eligible in the event of a loss in the league title game, although no one seems quite certain how the NCAA will rule now that the scenario is written explicitly into the rules. It's unclear if the ACC's contractual agreements with certain bowls will play into that decision. If the Yellow Jackets lose the championship game but are considered bowl eligible, the ACC has a rule stating the title game loser can't fall below the Sun Bowl in the selection process. Georgia Tech played in the Sun Bowl last year. How exactly the NCAA interprets the Yellow Jackets' postseason fate could play a large role in where the Hokies go. If the Russell Athletic Bowl chooses N.C. State and the Sun Bowl is required to take Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech would be pushed down to either the Belk or Music City bowls. Duke, which will play in the postseason for the first time since the 1994 season, figures to be an attractive option for the Belk Bowl in Charlotte because of proximity. Of course, a wrench could be thrown into all postseason plans should Georgia Tech upset Florida State in the ACC title game, sending a ripple down the entire bowl chain. The Yellow Jackets would go to the Orange Bowl, the Chick-fil-A would chose between Clemson and Florida State and the Russell Athletic Bowl would take the team the Chick-fil-A passes on. Because of that possibility, Virginia Tech won't likely know its postseason destination until the dust settles from the ACC championship game this Saturday.

Fair enough. But like LSU proved, it doesn't take a Heisman-caliber quarterback to take Alabama to the wire. What it takes is a defense big enough and willing enough to stand across the line and smash into Alabama's offense as hard or harder than what Alabama brings. That will at least keep you close. And that's something Notre Dame shown they're able to do, considering they're ranked second in points allowed (10.33 pts/game). Their biggest problem? Alabama is #1 in that category (9.25 pts/game). As has been the case all year, it's going to be tough to put points on the board against 'Bama, especially for an offense that scores a little less than 27 points/game.

A point we should consider that I just read on SI.com by Andy Staples (I know he's an idiot, but not even he could mess this point up): ND faced nine bowl eligible teams. Alabama faced six, Georgia five. We could argue about the validity of what bowl eligibility tells us about a team's strength, but I think it's a solid metric on which to base the overall strength of schedule of a team who plays many bowl eligible teams. And based on this metric, I wouldn't consider ND's season a joke. Now, don't read this as me saying Notre Dame are dominant world-beaters that are light-years ahead of the SEC. (A few SEC exceptionalists here are sure to read it that way.) There are many flaws to ND's offense especially. But to consider them so far outside of where Bama/Georgia are is a bit of a misnomer to say the least. I think it would be an incredibly competitive championship game.

It was South Carolina who beat them. As far as why they would get the spot in the national championship, I would assume that the polls would favor them with a win over Alabama more than anything Oregon could do at this point. I don't know what the BCS computer numbers would look like though, but it wouldn't surprise me if Georgia came out ahead of Oregon there as well.

Yeah, you're right. But you implied that I was an idiot (or something of the sort), so I took that as you calling me an idiot. You did that here: Now you're going incredulously say that that's not what you meant, you didn't say those exact words, etc., when in reality, we all know you were calling me an idiot. That's the game mental midgets play. So when you continue speaking like a mental midget, how am I supposed to know you don't listen to a show that attracts mental midgets? That's where I'm a little fuzzy in this whole ordeal. It's an honest mistake. Really, it is.

Whoa. Watch your language, kind sir. I thought you were a Christian. Who tried to discredit Alabama or the SEC? Futbolking said he was sick of them being around. You, as usual, take personal offense to an innocuous comment and shoot back with the arrogant vitriol (I didn't know it was possible, either) that only the grossest SEC exceptionalist could. Then I make a (really, really, REALLY) funny remark about how one could confuse what you said with Paul Finebaum's entire existence, and you take even more offense and call me an idiot. Who's the aggressor here? But speaking to the point of this entire thread: Alabama is good. Are they beatable? Yes. Can Notre Dame beat them? Maybe. I think they have the pieces in place to do so. Is it likely? I'd say no. If I had to predict, I'd give Alabama a late touchdown to put the game out of reach. Maybe like a 34-21 win that felt closer than that final score... or something like that.

Well forgive me for mistaking you with him when you spew the same nonsense he does day after day. And you're an Alabama "fan". How was I supposed to know you didn't listen to Finebaum? You've always talked like his most loyal follower.

HA! Whoa, Mr. Pouty Pants. Sorry to touch a nerve. From your past posts here, I should have known you were so overly sensitive. But congrats on the conference you root for being so good. Speaking of, what's your relationship to Alabama again? I need to know if your a legitimate fan, or just a bandwagoner.

Yeah, I've seen that too. Also the Belk Bowl, which I know nothing about. Is that in Charlotte? What choice do they get?

Paul Finebaum??? IS THAT YOU?! HEY PAWWWWWLLLLLLL!