They had it down to 2 for a minute. Hope they can pull it out
I found that on Patrick Henry High School Twitter. Besides Holston, PH is the best team TS has played this year. They have had a good year, but the soft schedule may catch up to them today. They have a quarter to pull it out tho.
Holy molies! Did they leave him in the entire game? That’s crazy!!! He’s a beast though! Kid keeps going. You think he’s got 5 yards & he keeps dragging defenders with him to get a few more.
He left mid 4th. According to the radio broadcast, Union rushed for 597 yards.
Lomax goes out with 37 carries 431 yards and 6 TDs. Union took him out after a 53 yard run to the 3. Union has scored 49 unanswered to go from a 21-7 deficit in the first half to a running clock in the 4th.
Radio guys say he has 32 carries for 348 yards and 6 TDs. Wow. I think I’d get the starters out…but he is a senior and I’d be tempted to give him a shot at 400.
Most teams with solid programs have solid coaching from P-Nut football all the way up. Along the way, players are taught the exact plays they will be running once they get to varsity, all the way from their first year playing at 8 years old up to and through JV. With a program set up like that, you can’t just change your offense year to year to match your personnel. In that situation, you match your personnel to your offense. That said, I do think Union would find more success if the majority of their passes were play action off of their T Formation runs.
If Union can't score before the half, this'll get ugly. But a score here and getting ball after the break, they'd have a small chance.
Union has had some chances. The D has played fairly well considering the field position Abingdon has started with for much of the game. On the pick 6, the receiver at the second level had nothing but grass between himself and the end zone, too. When those opportunities present themselves, they have to take advantage and capitalize.
Under Wampler at RC we had film on Monday with helmets only afterward to setup for the week, Tuesday O, Wednesday D and light on Thursday. When Sarge came back, as I am sure you are familiar with working with him, it was a bit of a shock to us strapping the pads on Monday and going full steam for three days with rep after rep after rep. I see the useful side to both practices.
Yeah, Sarge liked full gear every day except Thursday, and then he would still require helmets and shoulder pads. As the year would go on, he would limit contact more and more each week as players got banged up, though. He felt like players needed to be in full gear as much as possible regardless of the day in order to just be accustomed to having it on. With him, you didn’t watch a whole lot of film, either, unless you were a coach. As a coach with him, you watched a ton of it getting the team ready for Friday nights. He did things a bit differently, but he got results, too.
We watched on Saturday mornings, around 9 and was home on the couch at 12 watching football and nursing any injuries, and then on Monday we always watched a little before we went out for practice!! We had some Mondays that was just helmet and shoulder pads, but as I got older those disappeared and we were full pads Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday!!
Nothing like the good ol days!!! Definitely some of the best times of my life, playing with some of my life long best friends, that I still see and stay in contact with to this day!!!
Every year I was there was the same after the regular season started. Monday was helmet and shoulder pads to set the O and D after watching film. Full gear on Tuesday for Defense and on Wednesday for Offense. Helmets on Thursday for a walk thru. Special teams were practiced every day in one form or another.
I can remember playing in the good old days, and after you played Friday night, we went in Saturday morning and watched the game film. Sometimes it was embarrassing to see how dumb you looked on certain plays, but it definitely was worth it as far as improving football IQ, and showing you what you needed to do to improve!
We always watched film on Mondays before we went out and set up our O and D for the coming game. Basically a walk thru and an extra day to recuperate before the wars that were Tuesday and Wednesday practices. That said, Saturdays and Sundays were spent watching football all day long, and even that helps develop a player's mind.
True!! I see so many DE's get sucked inside at this level!
Yes. It's beyond ridiculous sometimes. Regionwide, the overall lack of fundamental skills and discipline in many of the players on most all of the teams seems to have increased significantly over the past few years. Especially so when it comes down to football IQ that can really only be obtained through watching games or film.
I agree @Union_Fan, we had 3 guys engaging with the offensive line, the DE's were out of the play before it ever started. With a DE standing up, you basically just have to get in his way to block him, instead of engaging contact and pushing him out of the way. No matter what Central kicked Unions butt all over the field, and was the better team that night.
I watched some of the Richlands game, and for the first quarter Union looked like world beaters, and then they start backing off, and not burying a team and finishing them off.
I hope Union don't go to Abingdon with the same defensive scheme as they had against Central or Union will be in for a long night. I know you have to mix it up, but Union better come ready, Abingdon has a solid offensive line, good backs, and their passing game is not bad at all!!
If the DE is playing a solid technique and attacking the OT, you have to do a lot more than just get in his way to block him. If you could roll just anyone out there to play that position effectively, everyone would have an all world DE.
Do you think that could work now against a team like RV that likes to go four and five wide? I'm genuinely interested. It just seems so much harder to defend all that space if your ILBs are clogged up inside and you're asking the OLBs to cover slot guys on routes. You can always sit back in a zone but every zone has holes, esp if the OLBs aren't as fast and athletic as the slot guys. If you have the S be involved, that removes all help deep and leaves DBs on an island with no help. A WR will eventually get one over the top if the offense knows the outside has no help unless both corners are very, very good in man coverage and can match speed with the WR.
Yes, it would work. In that defense, the OLBs were some of the most athletic guys on the team (if you don't have those types of players to put there, the D struggles. That's why lots of smaller schools struggle to run that defense). As far as covering WRs, the CBs took the widest receivers. If there were multiple receivers to one side, the OLBs split the difference between the last guy on the line and the second receiver from the outside. If he started hurting the D, then the OLB would walk all the way out to him. The safety usually had the TE, and that was the weakness. If the TE started causing havoc, the weak ILB would end up in coverage on him. The weak ILB always had a drop on passing downs anyway. Actually, all the LBs had a coverage area if they weren't sent on something else. That said, against pass heavy teams who hardly would run, PV would occasionally go to a 3 man line with a single DT shading the center to the strong side of the field while replacing the other DT with an extra LB. That was the alignment used in the 1989 Region D playoff game vs. Coeburn when the record for interceptions in a regional playoff game was set with 6 picks.
When Barry Jones was DC for Powell Valley he basically ran a 4-4 stack, but he referred to it as a 31.
It was a 4 man front, but the ILBs usually lined up more head up on the guards with the weak side ILB playing a step or two further off the LOS than the strong ILB, while the OLBs were outside of the DEs 99% of the time. The 31 refers to the alignment of the DTs. On the strong side, the DT was in a 3 shading the outside eye of the guard, while the DT on the weak side was in a 1 shading the inside eye of the guard he was lined up on. Ling the D Linemen up shading into the gaps allowed for the gaps they were shading to be more easily clogged cutting down on the scrape lanes for the LBs. A fairly simple alignment for a very effective defense as long as you had personnel athletic and strong enough to man the positions and do the job associated with each position effectively. One thing about it, in that defense, the D Linemen had to be unselfish players for it to work. But, as long as the DEs and DTs did their jobs, it was as hard a defense to run on as any.
As a former terrible OL, if a run play was called, I was always happy if my guy was a standing DE/OLB. Makes it much, much easier to create a gap. I'm of the belief that if you're sole responsibility isn't rushing the QB, then the edge players are better off in a three point stance. It's obv different if your job is to sack the QB, standing up can be advantageous.
If you use your DEs on run plays to cram the OT into the gap to his inside and hold the gap to his outside, if he can do that standing up you are better off because that way he can also set the edge if the play goes outside of him. That is the way Jones taught DEs to play. You lined up shading the OTs outside eye on every play whether there was a TE to your side or not. If you didn’t have a TE, you crashed down the line off the OTs butt and hit the first thing through. If it turned out the ball was going to your outside, you fought back and strung the play towards the sideline. If you had a TE, you crammed the OT down, held your ground in the offtackle gap, and found the ball. If it was going away, you trailed looking for anything coming back. If it was going to your outside, you set the edge and strung it out to the sideline. If it was coming straight at you, you held your ground and squeezed to the ball. Anytime you felt pressure from a TE blocking down, you held the off tackle gap against the pressure and squeezed towards the ball, because in that instance you had help from the OLB on contain responsibilities as he would usually walk up to the line shading the TEs outside eye and replace his feet if he blocked down or tried to release inside. On passes, you just recognized it was a pass as you played your technique, and then rushed knowing you had contain responsibilities on the QB.
Also, under Jones at PV in the 4-4 the D ends were expected to stay home, take on the block and maintain outside contain. The only time they did anything different was a C blitz, rarely called on non passing downs.
In that defense, C was an automatic every play if the DE didn’t have a TE on his side. Bullets was for the OLBs.
The term 3 man front is coming in because 2 of the 5 guys were standing up. You're doing a strong running team a favor by doing that. No leverage, and half the lineman's job is done for him. Four down linemen doing some stunts with LB's blitzing the alternate gap, would have been much more effective.
The DEs should be in a 2 point stance as long as you can get by with it. You have to count the front by the number on the LOS, not the number with a hand or two on the ground. Going by the rationale that you call a defensive front based on how many guys actually have a hand on the ground, you would have to call PVs front in their glory days a 2 man front, cuz both DEs were always up…thing is, that’s not how it’s determined. It’s the number on the LOS.
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