AbndonFan 10 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Can anyone explain the point system? I forgot how it works and I'm trying to figure out our points. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 For defeating: AAA - 24 pts AA - 20 pts A - 16 pts +2 pts. for each game won by a defeated opponent. For losing: AAA - 12 pts AA - 8 pts A - 4 pts + 1 pt. for each game won by a team you lost to. Abingdon would look like this: John Battle - 16 (victory) + 2 (1 win by JB) = 18 pts. Patrick Henry - 16 (victory) + 4 (2 wins by PH) = 20 pts. Richlands - 8 (loss) + 4 (4 wins by Ric) = 12 pts. Tazewell - 20 (victory) + 0 (0 wins by Taz) = 20 pts. Total Pts. = 70 Games Played = 4 VHSL Rating = 17.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHS61 10 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 could u do graham's gman it would be apreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Graham would look like this: Bluefield - 4 (loss) + 4 (4 wins by Blu) = 8 pts. Christiansburg - 8 (loss) + 2 (2 wins by C'burg) = 10 pts. Blacksburg - 8 (loss) + 2 (2 wins by B'burg) = 10 pts. Marion - 20 (victory) + 4 (2 wins by Mar) = 24 pts. Richlands - 20 (victory) + 8 (4 wins by Ric) = 28 pts. Total Pts. = 80 Games Played = 5 VHSL Rating = 16.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrforshey 27 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 What!! You get points in Va for losing a game + bonus points from the team you lose to also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh, the "soccer moms" from NOVA came up with that system a few years ago...instead of getting trophies for "participating", you get points. Actually, it does reward a team for playing bigger teams, even if they lose...cuts down on some of the loading the schedule with cupcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Can you do Richlands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Richlands: Gate City - 16 (victory) + 4 (2 wins by GC) = 20 pts. Honaker - 16 (victory) + 4 (2 wins by Hon) = 20 pts. Powell Valley - 16 (victory) + 4 (2 wins by PV) = 20 pts. Abingdon - 20 (victory) + 6 (3 wins by Ab) = 26 pts. Graham - 8 (loss) + 2 (2 wins by Gra) = 10 pts. Total Pts. = 96 Games Played = 5 VHSL Rating = 19.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Another reason that the Virginia playoff system is so screwy, Bluefield has a larger enrollment than Graham yet is considered A while Graham is considered AA. Go figure that one out kiddies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Another reason that the Virginia playoff system is so screwy, Bluefield has a larger enrollment than Graham yet is considered A while Graham is considered AA. Go figure that one out kiddies... [/ QUOTE ] Yep, the VHSL's system is TOTALLY nuts...needs to be completely overhauled but the idiots in Charlottesville won't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornholio 10 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Man, I love the Pointer Sisters. They do some fine 70's disco for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavsRock 21 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Virginia's got the most retarted system I know of, it's even worse than the BCS. Last year Glenvar went 9-1, and missed the playoffs, at the same time, another team with a 4-6 record (don't remember who exactly, but I remember it from the playoff Pick'm game) got in. No body can even try to justify this, and will make themself look stupid trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narz_Wave 10 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 It was Grayson Co at 5-5 that got in over a 9-1 Glenvar team. Grayson Co proceeded to get spanked in the first round by Giles. The auto births for winning the district need to be eliminated IMO. That would go a long way to helping out in correctly getting teams into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ] It was Grayson Co at 5-5 that got in over a 9-1 Glenvar team. Grayson Co proceeded to get spanked in the first round by Giles. The auto births for winning the district need to be eliminated IMO. That would go a long way to helping out in correctly getting teams into the playoffs. [/ QUOTE ] If you eliminate the auto berths then you might as well not have districts. Then, teams can load up on creampuffs, go 10-0, make the playoffs and then get embarrassed. Nothing like seeing a 10-0 or 9-1 team get beat by 50 points in the first round of the playoffs by a team that went 6-4/7-3 during the regular season...happens a lot in WV. The VHSL has taken steps to alleviate this problem by allowing Regions to expand their playoffs to up to eight teams. If your Region didn't expand its playoffs and another 9-1 team misses the playoffs, don't blame the VHSL...blame the ADs and Principals in your Region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhstigerfan 12 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Wasn't there a team in Region C last season who would have made the playoffs if they had LOST one more game? Seems like it was if James River had lost to Covington, JR would have made the playoffs or something. Had something to do with who got the automatic bid from the Pioneer District. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhstigerfan 12 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Or no, I think I remember what it was. Wouldn't Glenvar had made the playoffs if they had lost or forfeited their game against Covington because that would have given Covington the auto-bid from the Pioneer and would have left James River out and Glenvar in for a wild card spot. That's pretty messed up when at the end of the season you are like "well if we had just lost one more game we woulda made the playoffs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Or no, I think I remember what it was. Wouldn't Glenvar had made the playoffs if they had lost or forfeited their game against Covington because that would have given Covington the auto-bid from the Pioneer and would have left James River out and Glenvar in for a wild card spot. That's pretty messed up when at the end of the season you are like "well if we had just lost one more game we woulda made the playoffs." [/ QUOTE ] Yep, that was the case. Covington would have had a higher rating than James River and would have won the district. James River's rating was lower than Glenvar's and Glenvar would have been in based on the ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhstigerfan 12 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Did they change the rule about a 3-way tie in the district or something? Cause I remember back a few years ago when Lebanon, George Wythe, and Northwood all tied for first in the Hogo and no one got an automatic bid, they all had to vie for a wildcard spot. I think thats how it was, I don't think the points used to decide a district champ until maybe last season or the season before last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 no, points have been used since 1970. Wythe got the auto. bid in 2003 with a 17.9, Northwood had a 17.6 & Leb. had 16.4; all went 6-1 in the Hogo. & made the playoffs. What changed was the tie-breaker AFTER the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Another reason that the Virginia playoff system is so screwy, Bluefield has a larger enrollment than Graham yet is considered A while Graham is considered AA. Go figure that one out kiddies... [/ QUOTE ] Yep, the VHSL's system is TOTALLY nuts...needs to be completely overhauled but the idiots in Charlottesville won't do it. [/ QUOTE ] I myself would like to see one champion in each classification.va could do it if they went to 4 classifications.AAAA,AAA,AA,A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameball 10 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The poor guys up there have a hard time just getting to work much less be able to fix such a srewed up system all the want is the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 you don't have a clue what you're talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] you don't have a clue what you're talking about [/ QUOTE ] I don't know about that Helper...sounds like he's on to something...or should I say, on something...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudBengal 10 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Hey gameball, any word on how #3 Brown is doing? I know that he got hurt late in the game against Bassett. Will he be ready to go this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCUnited1976 10 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 That penalizes good teams from bad districts. I think the 8 teams going to the playoffs bit will help out a lot, it's a lot harder for someone that went 6-4 to whine about being left out than someone who went 9-1 or 8-2. How is money split between the districts, regions, and VHSL during the regular season and playoffs anyway? I thought the VHSL made most of their $$$ from the state tournaments (i.e. the semifinals and finals), and that the region and district tournaments were cash cows for the regions and districts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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