Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ok so Lance, I know you at one time supported Mike Huckabee, and now support Obama... I just wanted to show you some similarities between Huckabee and McCain before Tuesday. Immigration - Both strongly support a fence on the border. Both support cutting funding to cities that harbor illegals. Both support employers having to check their workers and them paying fines for illegals. Healthcare - Both are against Universal Healthcare, but both want to extend goverment spending on the matter. National Defense - Both want to decrease Nuclear weapons, want to stay in Iraq as long as people arent getting killed, and both want to move unilaterally. Taxes - Both oppose increasing taxes again on the wealthiest Americans, both support tax cuts for the middle class, and both support the reduction of taxes on capitol gains. Economics and Trade - Both support free trade, and their economic policies are parallel. Education - Both support giving teachers an increase on incentive based pay, and both want pay raises for teachers. Now I know this is only a few items, but I think they hold a great deal of issues in them. Also, in regards to economics, Huckabee is a scholar. And he agrees with McCain's policies. Arkansas is booming. I can see why you chose him in the beginning. But I can also see where you could choose McCain in the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Don't fall for it Lance. It's a trap!!! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 No its the truth. You should be impressed that I never mentioned Obamas name during the whole post, no scare tactics or whatever you want to call them, just pointing out some facts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) No its the truth. You should be impressed that I never mentioned Obamas name during the whole post, no scare tactics or whatever you want to call them, just pointing out some facts... It was a joke dude. You guys are a little uptight about all of this. I know you're going say "When it comes to the future of the country we need to be uptight, blah blah blah". Neither President is going to turn this country around, they each have their own agenda. At this point, it is which one will affect me the least. I really don't have that much faith in either one. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it, I was really just kidding around with my first comment, and most of my other ones on this matter. Edited October 29, 2008 by BigBlueAlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I dont think we are uptight, we just are sick of the Liberal media and people not understanding the issues. JJ touched on it on another post. We have a candidate and want to support him. There is nothing wrong with that. And we are passionate for a reason, we are likely to have a president who has never truly accomplished any congressional feats, who tends to go way liberal or abstain and sit on the fence on many issues. This man was first on national tv 4 years ago. No one knew of him before then. He is the media's creation. Now according to most media, we are going into a recession, one of the worst times ever. Now whether you believe that or not is up to you... but to think this election is trivial is saddening with all the things going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Alright. You win. Im voting for McCain now... you happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Alright. You win. Im voting for McCain now... you happy? Im sure the McCain Campaign would love your vote. But the point of the matter is that this is a serious issue. And its seriously disturbing when people from both camps dont understand the issues and when people make light of it... I think you understand the issues, not liberally or conservatively but moderately, and its sad that people who do understand dont vote and dont take it seriously. Its a right to vote, a right that we should be proud of. No hard feelings here at all, just seems like youve been a Negative Nancy today as my buddy Bluefield Rocks likes to say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 what it boils down to i guess is that McCain is my dad's age...and I just can't imagine my dad running the country...lol...that's not really fair I know...but I just can't get past it...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Im sure the McCain Campaign would love your vote. But the point of the matter is that this is a serious issue. And its seriously disturbing when people from both camps dont understand the issues and when people make light of it... I think you understand the issues, not liberally or conservatively but moderately, and its sad that people who do understand dont vote and dont take it seriously. Its a right to vote, a right that we should be proud of. No hard feelings here at all, just seems like youve been a Negative Nancy today as my buddy Bluefield Rocks likes to say... I understand the issues, and I agree with some from both sides. I guess my problem is I just can't see how you guys can absolutely agree with everything that McCain stands for. Now, I'm not saying anything about him personally, I’m strictly talking policies. But what are the chances of all these people seeing exactly eye to eye with one man, and not disagree on one subject. There has to be something about him that you don’t like, or don’t agree with. Likewise there has to be something about Obama that you like, or agree with. I just don’t think it is possible for a bunch of random people from varying backgrounds to miraculously agree on every issue. By the way, I prefer to be called Pessimistic Patty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan64 309 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 what it boils down to i guess is that McCain is my dad's age...and I just can't imagine my dad running the country...lol...that's not really fair I know...but I just can't get past it...lol. Remember grasshopper, with age comes WISDOM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdmangwu 10 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The scariest part for me is the thought of putting a president in office that is the same party as the congressional majority, specially when many immoral agendas are getting so much support. And we don't have an unbiased media to get the word to the american people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUICKSTER 10 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 boma sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The scariest part for me is the thought of putting a president in office that is the same party as the congressional majority, specially when many immoral agendas are getting so much support. And we don't have an unbiased media to get the word to the american people. Republican President past 8 years, Republican Majority 6 out of 8 years. Were you scared then as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdmangwu 10 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 No, because the tendancy over the last 2-3 decades has been that the democrats have been moving toward supporting more things that go against what I look at when deciding who I am voting for. Such as homosexual agendas, abortion, immigration, etc. I am not syaing all democrats lean that way and I'm not saying all republicans lean the other way. I'm saying that based on what we are allowed to know about the two men running for office now, I am sorely afraid to put the democrat cadidate in office with pelosi and her bunch in charge in congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I understand the issues, and I agree with some from both sides. I guess my problem is I just can't see how you guys can absolutely agree with everything that McCain stands for. Now, I'm not saying anything about him personally, I’m strictly talking policies. But what are the chances of all these people seeing exactly eye to eye with one man, and not disagree on one subject. There has to be something about him that you don’t like, or don’t agree with. Likewise there has to be something about Obama that you like, or agree with. I just don’t think it is possible for a bunch of random people from varying backgrounds to miraculously agree on every issue. By the way, I prefer to be called Pessimistic Patty. Id say we disagree on many things with McCain, but where would it get us to tell people them. Ill say mine though, I disagree with his stance on amnesty and on torture. What do I like about Obama? Umm... He is a good speaker. He can motivate people. I really cant think of any policies I agree with although I dont feel like thinking hard. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublue 939 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Alright. You win. Im voting for McCain now... you happy? nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Remember grasshopper, with age comes WISDOM! My Post Pick of the Day! You're a very intelligent individual. Thank you for that post, and it's so so true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets 10 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 republican president past 8 years, republican majority 6 out of 8 years. Were you scared then as well? those first 6 were good last two bad... You do the math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets 10 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Going from Mike Huckabee,a great man and very conservative. And now support Obama a self proclaimed wealth spreader and most liberal man in DC... ''WOW'' talking about going from one end to the other, thats pretty amazing. from light to darkness. from day to night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 those first 6 were good last two bad... You do the math It took years to get into the mess we are in. I can assure you it didnt just happen in two years time. Probably not even in the last 6 years, but the Republicans had a lot more time to fix it than the Democrats did. Both parties are responsible for the mess America is in today, not just the Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 from light to darkness. from day to night. Whats that supposed to mean?!?! haha Im just messin with ya man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Going from Mike Huckabee,a great man and very conservative. And now support Obama a self proclaimed wealth spreader and most liberal man in DC... ''WOW'' talking about going from one end to the other, thats pretty amazing. from light to darkness. from day to night. Very valid point. Barack Obama is about as far left as you can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Very valid point. Barack Obama is about as far left as you can go. No, Obama is as far left as you can go. National Journal has ranked Sen. Barack Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. Sen. Hillary Clinton ranked 16th. http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/01/31/national_journal_obama_most_li/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 No, Obama is as far left as you can go. National Journal has ranked Sen. Barack Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. Sen. Hillary Clinton ranked 16th. http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/01/31/national_journal_obama_most_li/ Yes. I was going to post that he was the most liberal, but I was only about 99.5% sure of it but I didn't want to post something I was 100% sure of. I am too lazy to take the 30 seconds to do the research and confirm it. What a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 No, Obama is as far left as you can go. National Journal has ranked Sen. Barack Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. Sen. Hillary Clinton ranked 16th. http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/01/31/national_journal_obama_most_li/ I shudder to think about November 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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