Fuhrer Obama

[bucfan64 309]

Hey,

 

Remember when the East Germans collaborated with the Stasi and informed on their own citizens during the cold war, GET READY HERE WE GO AGAIN!

 

If this isn't bad enough the FUHR....ER.......PRESIDENT AND HIS Admin. are now going to FORCE AMERICANS TO BE CHARITABLE!

 

 

 

Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, publicly stated his intention to help create “universal civil defense training†in 2006.

 

In an interview with Ben Smith of the New York Daily News, Emanuel outlined the agenda for military-style training, essentially a domestic draft, aimed at preparing Americans for a chemical or biological terrorist attack.

 

Asked by Smith about the universal service plan and whether people would have to live in military barracks, Emanuel laughed before responding, “We’re going to have universal civil defense training, somewhere between the ages of 18 to 25 you will do three months of training….but there can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of what we call civil defense training or civil service in service of the country, in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American.â€

 

“It will be a common experience and we will be prepared, God forbid, God forbid that there is a chemical hit, another terrorist act or natural disaster becoming more frequent - there’ll be a body of citizens who are ready and capable and trained - that’s all you have to think about,†said Emanuel before smugly declaring, “We’re all here for you OK? It’s a circle of love.â€

 

Asked if the training would be military style, with people wearing uniforms, Emanuel stated, “If you’re worried about are you going to have to do 50 jumping jacks the answer is yes,†adding that the service could be done through state national guard.

 

Shockingly, the GIVE legislation also contains language that could completely demolish the 1st amendment.

 

The 12th amendment to the act states, “Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.â€

 

As Gary Wood writes, “Those in support of this legislation will argue this amendment is limited in scope and is not meant to interfere with the rights of citizens to protest, petition, boycott, or strike in resistance to government proposed laws. However, the people associated through service under the GIVE Act are considered volunteers, still free citizens, yet it will be unlawful for them to take part in any protests against any legislation. This is as close to a sedition act, a violation of 1st Amendment rights, as has been proposed in recent history. A basic right as a part of our natural, inalienable rights, is to resist government. Our founders not only knew it was a right but it was a responsibility. This legislation begins to break that down significantly.â€

 

Fears about Obama’s plans to create involuntary servitude and domestic spy squads were first stoked in July 2008, when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.â€

 

Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required†to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every yearâ€. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged†to undertake such programs.

 

Numerous other national service bills have been introduced which target everyone from schoolchildren to the elderly. They include the Service For All Ages Initiative, the Summer of Service Act, the Semester of Service Act, the Encore Service Act and the ACTION Act.

 

Regarding the GIVE Act, “The bill’s opponents — and there are only a few in Congress — say it could cram ideology down the throats of young “volunteers,†many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a “Congressional Commission on Civic Service,†reports Fox.

 

“We contribute our time and money under no government coercion on a scale the rest of the world doesn’t emulate and probably can’t imagine,†said Luke Sheahan, contributing editor for the Family Security Foundation. “The idea that government should order its people to perform acts of charity is contrary to the idea of charity and it removes the responsibility for charity from the people to the government, destroying private initiative.â€

 

Lee Cary of the conservative American Thinker warns that Obama’s agenda is to, “tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda.â€

 

The passage of such shocking legislation with barely a whimper from political activist groups goes to show how well the corporate media has performed in camouflaging the legislation with flowery characterizations of helpful volunteerism, when in reality the bill creates the pretext for mandatory national service and the creation of a multi-million man domestic civil defense unit who will be tasked with spying on their fellow Americans under the justification of protecting the country from terrorism.

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

H.R.1388

Title: To reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

 

 

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009 The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obamas promised civilian national security force intensify.

 

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 House margin and a 74-14 Senate margin

 

 

UPDATE: Both Senate and House Pass HR1388

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2009-108

 

 

 

Senate Report: 74 to 14

House Report: 321-105

 

 

 

 

Explanation of the G.I.V.E act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es_59215X-g

 

Compulsory: Obligatory; required

 

 

 

 

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

 

Look closely at section 6104(b)(5 & 6)

 

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

 

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

 

 

 

 

Can anyone confirm that they actually passed this? I'm skeptical considering it was last thursday, but then this administration's seems to be very secretive about what they do.

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This is definitely another thing to add to the garrison of things upon which I don't see eye-to-eye with Obama.

 

But I think it's definitely overboard to call him Fuhrer. That's too loaded a word to throw around lightly.

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This is definitely another thing to add to the garrison of things upon which I don't see eye-to-eye with Obama.

 

But I think it's definitely overboard to call him Fuhrer. That's too loaded a word to throw around lightly.

 

Can we finally call him a socialist now???

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

This is definitely another thing to add to the garrison of things upon which I don't see eye-to-eye with Obama.

 

But I think it's definitely overboard to call him Fuhrer. That's too loaded a word to throw around lightly.

 

But this is a move from the nazi playbook. In my opinion this is nothing light. I had the word nazi in my post before I thought it should be verified, it seems this is in fact real.

 

It should really concern people that they are passing these types of things without hardly any mention to the public. The media though makes certain Americans think american idol is newsworthy.

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[buzzsawBeaver 12]

If anything though it's ironic that so many youth who thought it was so hip to vote for this administration are going to end up being controlled by it. But it's unfortunate for those who didn't vote for it.

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[bucfan64 309]

This is definitely another thing to add to the garrison of things upon which I don't see eye-to-eye with Obama.

 

But I think it's definitely overboard to call him Fuhrer. That's too loaded a word to throw around lightly.

 

I understand your thinking that calling him FUHRER is a little overboard, but he has taken this page right out of MEIN KEMPF, this is classical Fascism, similiar measures were imposed by Mussolini.

 

I am not saying for one minute that the President is a NAZI, I am simply using the term FUHRER (the leader) to draw attention to his NATIONAL SOCIALISTIC tendencies. Sure the guy is a SOCIALIST but what many fail to remember is that FASCISM is SOCIALISM. It is a STATIST brand of SOCIALISM. By having young Americans FORCED into this program, they will become INDOCTRINATED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION and therefore, gain further support at the POLLS for their twisted IDEOLOGY.

 

This is only the beginning..........................

[GMan 3,569]

Socialist...Communist...Facist...take your pick...

 

As I've said before, I tried warning you all...did you listen??? Nope.

 

Can you hear me now???

[beano5 14]

i will be DAMNED if i have to do a civil training program. haha

[vthokies4life 10]

Socialist...Communist...Facist...take your pick...

 

As I've said before, I tried warning you all...did you listen??? Nope.

 

Can you hear me now???

 

You act like everyone here voted for Obama. From what I see, that's hardly the case.

[vthokies4life 10]

I understand your thinking that calling him FUHRER is a little overboard, but he has taken this page right out of MEIN KEMPF, this is classical Fascism, similiar measures were imposed by Mussolini.

 

I am not saying for one minute that the President is a NAZI, I am simply using the term FUHRER (the leader) to draw attention to his NATIONAL SOCIALISTIC tendencies. Sure the guy is a SOCIALIST but what many fail to remember is that FASCISM is SOCIALISM. It is a STATIST brand of SOCIALISM. By having young Americans FORCED into this program, they will become INDOCTRINATED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION and therefore, gain further support at the POLLS for their twisted IDEOLOGY.

 

This is only the beginning..........................

Then will you just continue to call him Socialist/Fascist/Communist (take your pick...)? I also think it's taking it too far to put an American President, regardless of your views of him, in the same sentence that elicits thoughts of Nazi Germany. When he starts ethnic cleansing, then you can associate the two together. Until then, just don't.

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Then will you just continue to call him Socialist/Fascist/Communist (take your pick...)? I also think it's taking it too far to put an American President, regardless of your views of him, in the same sentence that elicits thoughts of Nazi Germany. When he starts ethnic cleansing, then you can associate the two together. Until then, just don't.

 

Thank you, bud. Exactly what I was thinking but just couldn't put it on the page.

[BigD4VT 11]

I'm in no way agreeing, or disagreeing, but I want to point out that it isn't just The President and HIS administration. John McCain and 22 other republicans voted YEA vs 14 republicans voting NAY...

[bucfan64 309]

It's a thing called FREE SPEECH. IF you disagree I respect your opinions, I guess it would have been just fine had this been "W."

 

The reason I used the term FUHRER is to draw attention to the post and the fact that America is becoming more and more FASCIST everyday. Contrary to popular opinion we are not becoming Communist Russia, this administration is looking eerily like Il Duce's Italy!

 

I don't think for one minute that Obama is going to start ethnic, racial or any other type of cleansing. But I can promise you this much, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, or have a dissenting opinion of the president and his administration there will not be too many places that you will be welcome under this regime.

 

 

 

In order to be more acurate I will now refer to the president as IL DUCE!

 

After all Mussolini was a much nicer guy, not too mention very charismatic!

 

///////// On a rather interesting note, the liberal LEFT embraced the policies of Mussolini during the early 1920's and 30's it wasn't until the NAZIS started imposing the anti-semitism on Italy that he became unpopular with the AMERICAN LEFT.

 

Therefore, to suggest that FASCISM IS A MOVEMENT of the RIGHT is absolutely an incorrect observation and needs to be re-evaluated.

 

Fascism comes from the LEFT, ask any Political Scientist and they will have to agree!

[vthokies4life 10]

It's a thing called FREE SPEECH. IF you disagree I respect your opinions, I guess it would have been just fine had this been "W."

 

The reason I used the term FUHRER is to draw attention to the post and the fact that America is becoming more and more FASCIST everyday. Contrary to popular opinion we are not becoming Communist Russia, this administration is looking eerily like Il Duce's Italy!

 

I don't think for one minute that Obama is going to start ethnic, racial or any other type of cleansing. But I can promise you this much, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, or have a dissenting opinion of the president and his administration there will not be too many places that you will be welcome under this regime.

 

 

 

In order to be more acurate I will now refer to the president as IL DUCE!

 

After all Mussolini was a much nicer guy, not too mention very charismatic!

 

///////// On a rather interesting note, the liberal LEFT embraced the policies of Mussolini during the early 1920's and 30's it wasn't until the NAZIS started imposing the anti-semitism on Italy that he became unpopular with the AMERICAN LEFT.

 

Therefore, to suggest that FASCISM IS A MOVEMENT of the RIGHT is absolutely an incorrect observation and needs to be re-evaluated.

 

Fascism comes from the LEFT, ask any Political Scientist and they will have to agree!

Haha, alright buddy. Call him what you want. Just quit using Nazi comparisons, please.

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It's not a matter of suggesting the U.S. is going to start ethnic cleansing, germany didn't just up and 1 day say lets round up all of the jews and kill them, it was a slow, methodical civil advance of controlling and indoctrinating the public to submit their lives to the nazi party and in service to the fatherland through programs, many aimed at the youths. The nazi party was just that, a political party, and not everyone in germany or even the german army was on board with it, but they gained power under hilter. This is a nazi like system we're writing about. While the liberal goals might not be ethnic cleansing, don't think for a second that it's not about corrupt power and controlling, and the liberals do have enemies in their minds, mainly freedom loving conservatives and the American way itself.

This is nothing less than an attempt to lead America into a state of slavery and dependency, slowly, and whether or not people think it's a civil way or not is irrelevant. The road to he!! was paved with good intentions, even though I don't think there's any good in it, but don't think this can't end in large scale bloodshed. It doesn't have to be in the form of people in concentration camps, people would be wise to refer to waco to see what an oppressive government can do to innocent people even in this day and age.

 

 

this isn't world war 2 or iraq it's texas '93, people should be "very" wary of this administration and permitting any government democrat or republican control over the people.

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Haha, alright buddy. Call him what you want. Just quit using Nazi comparisons, please.

 

Do you know what the word Nazi means? A Nazi wasn't just someone that was involved in ethnic cleansing (even though that's what many, many people refer to them as). It was the German people from the end of WWI to the end of WWII. Nazi has nothing to do with the Holocaust or the ethnic cleansing as you said. But rather, the people of the country and the army of Germany, as a nickname so to speak. Nazi has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust other than the fact that they carried it out. Nazi was just the word used to describe the German's. So do not make the mistake almost every person in the country makes in associating the word Nazi with the Holocaust. The Nazi soldiers were only doing what they were ordered to do by their Commander. If they objected or refused, they were killed. Nazi's were Facists.

[BigBlueAlum 12]

Do you know what the word Nazi means? A Nazi wasn't just someone that was involved in ethnic cleansing (even though that's what many, many people refer to them as). It was the German people from the end of WWI to the end of WWII. Nazi has nothing to do with the Holocaust or the ethnic cleansing as you said. But rather, the people of the country and the army of Germany, as a nickname so to speak. Nazi has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust other than the fact that they carried it out. Nazi was just the word used to describe the German's. So do not make the mistake almost every person in the country makes in associating the word Nazi with the Holocaust. The Nazi soldiers were only doing what they were ordered to do by their Commander. If they objected or refused, they were killed. Nazi's were Facists.

 

I think you too are wrong. Nazism is basically a political party with fascist views. They were not necessarily all the people of Germany or the Army, it was the party that was in control of German government at the time of WWII (1933-1945). And to say "Nazi has NOTHING to do with the Holocaust other than the fact that they carried it out" just doesn't make sense. If the biggest thing that Nazi's are known for is the holocaust, then they definitely have something to do with it.

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Then will you just continue to call him Socialist/Fascist/Communist (take your pick...)? I also think it's taking it too far to put an American President, regardless of your views of him, in the same sentence that elicits thoughts of Nazi Germany. When he starts ethnic cleansing, then you can associate the two together. Until then, just don't.

 

It's borderline anti-american to even refer to your president this way. You can dislike him for whatever reason and call him what you want, but that's a little too far and crazy.

[bucfan64 309]

It's borderline anti-american to even refer to your president this way. You can dislike him for whatever reason and call him what you want, but that's a little too far and crazy.

 

ANTI=AMERICAN????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

This is how liberalism works, I AM AN AMERICAN, there is a thing called FREE SPEECH!

FREE SPEECH, FREE SPEECH, FREE SPEECH!

 

It is NOT ANTI=AMERICAN to say what you think, IT IS AMERICAN TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK!

 

It is ANTI=AMERICAN to tell someone that they cannot say what they think!

 

You have proven to be anything but American by suggesting otherwise. Stop and listen to what you are saying......

 

This is not the United States of the Offended .........It is the United States of America!

 

I don't want your VERSION of America, I enjoy the one our founding fathers established. One based on FREE SPEECH, FREE IDEAS, FREE THOUGHT!!!!

 

What I say may not be popular, but the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES (You know that thing that the politicians in Washington D.C. are trying to destroy) guarantees me that what I say does not have to be popular and I have the right to speak my mind, petty words do not bring a nation down, but someone preventing those words sure as HECK CAN BRING IT TO IT'S KNEES!

 

Sir Oliver Wendell Holmes once said "the right to swing my fist ends where the other mans nose begins."

 

My words are not ANTI-AMERICAN and they sure as heck are not physically violating someone elses rights!

[bucfan64 309]

I'm in no way agreeing, or disagreeing, but I want to point out that it isn't just The President and HIS administration. John McCain and 22 other republicans voted YEA vs 14 republicans voting NAY...

 

I know what you are saying there Dave, my point is this ;

 

I am NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN, the last 8 years has been eye opening to me, BOTH SIDES not just the Obama Administration, are destroying the country, and if "W" was still in office pulling this crap along with the rest of the Repubs I would be saying the same thing.

 

I think it is very scary when the so called conservative party gets only 14 NAY votes for this bill.....................

 

I AM A CONSERVATIVE INDEPENDENT WHICH SUPPORTS "SOME" LIBERTARIAN IDEAS.

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

I know what you are saying there Dave, my point is this ;

 

I am NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN, the last 8 years has been eye opening to me, BOTH SIDES not just the Obama Administration, are destroying the country, and if "W" was still in office pulling this crap along with the rest of the Repubs I would be saying the same thing.

 

I think it is very scary when the so called conservative party gets only 14 NAY votes for this bill.....................

 

I AM A CONSERVATIVE INDEPENDENT WHICH SUPPORTS "SOME" LIBERTARIAN IDEAS.

 

As I've mentioned before, the biggest problem is the conservatives don't really have a voice in politics, conservatism can defeat liberalism easily, because it works and is a successful formula, but the republicans can't be so moderate and have any real success, they're simply out of their league if they aren't true to their roots, which they haven't been for some years it seems.

[buzzsawBeaver 12]

You could also argue that America has pushed God aside, and He was a foundation of this country's principals. It could be that the fact that America has simply morally gone by the wayside in a lot of ways that it's moving towards the left and doesn't have intentions of having conservative foundations. That's a very scary consideration to me to, sometimes I feel as though America is actually embracing socialism.

[milktheclock 10]

there is an easy comparison between Hitler and Obama. Both have/had a huge celebrity-like following. Leno? NCAA bracket on ESPN? There is an idolization going on with Obama that is very similar to past events.

[bucfan64 309]

Dont' get me wrong I DO NOT THINK FOR ONE MINUTE that President Obama will start doing the things that Hitler, Stalin and Lenin did in their respective countries, regarding hate, concentration camps, genocide, ethnic persecution, etc. HOwever, I do believe that he and his administration are conducting themselves straight from the Fascism playbook in regards to social programs, statist ideology and the merging of corporations and govt.