NewHampshireRed 94 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) I knew you were, as so was I. And I am saying your talking millions, and state payed employee's unemployed. And I do not disagree with you on the fact that we must stand up to this. BUT call your congress, e-mail, picket, do whatever, boycott. But do NOT spend money on a loosing battle when that money could help so many in need. Your talking families here that when they lose (in many cases have already lost) their job and cannot support their own kids then tell them well we tried when we spent X amount of millions of your tax paying money and it did not make any difference. Edited March 21, 2010 by mapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watcher 10 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 AG, Cuccinelli says that Va. will sue the federal government over FORCING citizens to purchase health care. This is the only guy on the ballot last year that I voted for, he has done at least one thing that I can and do endorse! http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/03/cuccinellis_office_confirms_vi.html The reason people should be forced is because they will need it and are deadbeat and will go to the most expensive place,emergency room,and the hospital or government will have to pick up the tab. That is one of the reasons medicine cost so much. It is the hospital trying to make up the difference.Have you ever known anybody to not need healthcare.This argument does not make any sense.The same people who argue for right to life do not want to spend the money or actually take vare of these extra kids of society.If they are so moral, I say let them take care of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watcher 10 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 then why do people join the military at times,want to work for the state or federal government,it is because of free benefits,including healthcare for their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) then why do people join the military at times,want to work for the state or federal government,it is because of free benefits,including healthcare for their family.At least they are working! And they're wanting to do something with their lives, like protect YOU from yourself. What an idiotic statement. I have no problem with anyone who joins the military for ANY reason. Much less if they are struggling and find this is their only way out...I applaud them for it. It's the lazy SOB's that benefit from this healthcare bill with whom I have a problem. Edited March 22, 2010 by blueinbama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye 32 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 There is absolutely nothing "FREE" concerning the benefits extended to members of our armed forces. During times of relative peace, when our service members were not called on often, these were benefits granted with little action. Now however, I can assure you and anyone else with this idiotic view, that every benefit is earned many times over. I cannot find one reason to support this piece of legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 then why do people join the military at times,want to work for the state or federal government,it is because of free benefits,including healthcare for their family. Another ignorant post from the watcher. So you are ok with people who don't work because they are too lazy? I guess you are even more ok to give them a percentage of your paycheck? How about paying for their medical bills now? Are you ok with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 then why do people join the military at times,want to work for the state or federal government,it is because of free benefits,including healthcare for their family. Are there "Razzies" given out by Lance or GMan to point out some of the dumbest posts of the year? This one should be a top candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't think the individual meant anything negative in his post. Maybe he has a history of such, but I didn't see it in this post. The post could have been worded differently, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't think the individual meant anything negative in his post. Maybe he has a history of such, but I didn't see it in this post. The post could have been worded differently, however. The watcher is known for ignorant posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan64 309 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The reason people should be forced is because they will need it and are deadbeat and will go to the most expensive place,emergency room,and the hospital or government will have to pick up the tab. That is one of the reasons medicine cost so much. It is the hospital trying to make up the difference.Have you ever known anybody to not need healthcare.This argument does not make any sense.The same people who argue for right to life do not want to spend the money or actually take vare of these extra kids of society.If they are so moral, I say let them take care of them! Watcher, What is absurd is the people who continuously argue that the federal government should not tell a woman "what to do with her body," are now telling me that I have to own health insurance! If that isn't pot calling kettle black, I don't know what is! Universal health care is not the solution, Tort Reform, allow us to purchase insurance across state lines and reform the medicare and medicaid systems. I do want to take care of the less fortunate, I do want to contribute more to charity, I CAN'T BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKES 1/3 RD OF MY INCOME EACH MONTH! America survived perfectly well without this nonsense for the better part of 170 years, and then along came the PROGRESSIVES ie (Socialist) few if any government ran programs are effective. THERE IS NOT ONE single person in this country that is denied health care, if you go to the clinic the ER THEY HAVE TO TREAT YOU. The minimum payment on these bills are $5.00 and sometimes even less a month, stop drinking the Kool-Aid! There are tons of FREE CLINICS IN this country, that are funded through charity work and donations, they are available, don't act as if there are no alternatives. Do we need reform? YES, YES, YES! Do we need SOCIALISM? NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn125 10 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'm in the military now and I can tell you its far from free, but that is besides the point. We are being forced to do something instead of given the liberty to choose what we want. This may not be a fix but if they could maybe half it down the center. Those who want to keep their insurance and like it can and for those who need the help they have the option of choosing the health care. Given that is very vague, if they could work on the lines of that I believe things could be solved. I'm only 20 and that is just my thought of the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'm in the military now and I can tell you its far from free, but that is besides the point. We are being forced to do something instead of given the liberty to choose what we want. This may not be a fix but if they could maybe half it down the center. Those who want to keep their insurance and like it can and for those who need the help they have the option of choosing the health care. Given that is very vague, if they could work on the lines of that I believe things could be solved. I'm only 20 and that is just my thought of the whole thing. First of all, thank you for your service in the military that allows guys like me to be able to speak freely. I agree with your post 100%. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curly 10 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 the people that dismiss this lawsuit as a waste really need to wise up. the constitution was written to limit the powers of the government and insure individual liberties. the 10th amendment deals with states rights and expressly limits the federal government to powers expressly stated by the constitution. to my knowledge there has been no constitutional amendment stating the federal government can require anyone to purchase a comodity(health care). in my opinion this challenge has plenty of merit and is worthy of the investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 the people that dismiss this lawsuit as a waste really need to wise up. the constitution was written to limit the powers of the government and insure individual liberties. the 10th amendment deals with states rights and expressly limits the federal government to powers expressly stated by the constitution. to my knowledge there has been no constitutional amendment stating the federal government can require anyone to purchase a comodity(health care). in my opinion this challenge has plenty of merit and is worthy of the investment Our forefathers are turning over in their graves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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