BHS03 99 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/marshall-coach-sideline-flop-oscar-worthy-183438584.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/marshall-coach-sideline-flop-oscar-worthy-183438584.html Wonder what hurt worse: The elbow right there or the quarter to face in Morgantown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Wonder what hurt worse: The elbow right there or the quarter to face in Morgantown? Did he get grazed by an elbow or have a heart attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Did he get grazed by an elbow or have a heart attack? It's obvious that the "graze" was enough to put him on top of players on the bench. Were the after effects too much? Maybe. Herrion refused to comment and called it a "non-story" in the post-game comments. I can't really comment on it one way or another because a.) I didn't see it in person and b.) you can't see anything conclusive (as to if there was or wasn't contact) in that video feed. People who did see it personally said that there was contact and that it did leave him breathless for a period of time. If I see anything I see contact to the throat.... but I can't see enough to call it justified or embarrassing. Maybe he got the breath knocked out of him or maybe he was hit and just exaggerated it enough to get a referee's attention. The refs obviously saw something flagrant in it since there was a flagrant foul called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 call a foul on the coach for being on the court. If his azz was where it shoulda been, we wouldn't be seeing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 call a foul on the coach for being on the court. If his azz was where it shoulda been, we wouldn't be seeing this. First, he is barely on the court. Second, you can't call a foul on the coach. Third, if he was ONE foot backwards, and the dude wanted to hit him, I'm pretty sure he would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Second, you can't call a foul on the coach. Um, yes you can. Lol. Coachs get Technicals all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Um, yes you can. Lol. Coachs get Technicals all the time. Lol you beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Lol you beat me to it. A Technical is not a foul. Yes, many call them a Technical "foul" but in the NCAA they do NOT count towards the team's foul count. Therefore, not a foul. Sorry guys, do the HW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 A Technical is not a foul. Yes, many call them a Technical "foul" but in the NCAA they do NOT count towards the team's foul count. Therefore, not a foul. Sorry guys, do the HW. Still warrants free throws and the ball to the other team. Sure does seem like a foul to me, regardless of what the NCAA may or may not say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Still warrants free throws and the ball to the other team. Sure does seem like a foul to me, regardless of what the NCAA may or may not say. I guess the rules don't matter. Let me ask you this, does a foul constitute a change in possession & free throws? Nope. Never. A foul, and a Technical are not the same call. A foul constitutes a change in possession or FTs, not both. Technicals, do both. There is a HUGE difference. Not to mention they do not count to team fouls. You have to stick to the exact language when discussing rules, granted I see the reason to call a Technical a foul, but it is not. There is a huge difference to small language in all sporting rules. Take an official's test for example, just once. In WV they are all true/false and sometimes one word makes all the difference. And trust me they are not easy to find. Anyways, it would only be a warning to Herrion according to NCAA rules, a coach receives a warning for leaving the box before getting Tee'd up. Edited January 18, 2012 by StoneyCalhoun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 The NCAA still calls it a Technical "Foul." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Give me an example of one coach...high school, college...or even little league that doesn't step onto the court.... If he got the air knocked out of him, I can see him acting the way he did...it's a scary feeling...maybe the dude had a panic attack when he got the wind knocked out....I'm not going to judge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/marshall-coach-sideline-flop-oscar-worthy-183438584.html Childish, I know. But given that Marshall hit 1 of the 2 technical free throws, and Marshall won by 1, you can make the argument that Herrion literally won that game for them. More power to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 call a foul on the coach for being on the court. If his azz was where it shoulda been, we wouldn't be seeing this. Coaches are CONSTANTLY out on the court. In fact, that's what the lines in front of the bench represent...they protrude slightly onto the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 A Technical is not a foul. ... Sorry guys, do the HW. HW was done... didn't know you wanted the sources included.... from the Official NCAA Basketball Scorebook, page 2... TECHNICALS & NOTES: ... An example of this type of information is a foul charged to a coach ... http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/Stats_Manuals/Basketball/scorebook.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 HW was done... didn't know you wanted the sources included.... from the Official NCAA Basketball Scorebook, page 2... TECHNICALS & NOTES: ... An example of this type of information is a foul charged to a coach ... http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/Stats_Manuals/Basketball/scorebook.pdf helper, from doowwwnntowwwn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StoneyCalhoun Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 HW was done... didn't know you wanted the sources included.... from the Official NCAA Basketball Scorebook, page 2... TECHNICALS & NOTES: ... An example of this type of information is a foul charged to a coach ... http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/Stats_Manuals/Basketball/scorebook.pdf Scorebook? Try a rule book. Find where you can charge a "foul" to a coach other than a technical foul. Then we can argue if a Technical is considered a type of foul, or if fouls and technicals are in different categories. Granted it is all silly. I took it as you making the generalization that you thought the official should call a foul, as in ball out of bounds or shots if in the act of shooting, not a technical, which to me is not a "foul". Granted, I used to come from the Mike Eades school of officiating, where he preached specifics, but I quit that crap lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Scorebook? Try a rule book. Find where you can charge a "foul" to a coach other than a technical foul. Then we can argue if a Technical is considered a type of foul, or if fouls and technicals are in different categories. Granted it is all silly. I took it as you making the generalization that you thought the official should call a foul, as in ball out of bounds or shots if in the act of shooting, not a technical, which to me is not a "foul". Granted, I used to come from the Mike Eades school of officiating, where he preached specifics, but I quit that crap lol. Goodness, you are making this more technical then it needs to be. The terminology in the NCAA rulebook calls it a Technical FOUL. Of course it is different from a regular foul, but it is still considered a type of foul. How hard is that to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Goodness, you are making this more technical then it needs to be. The terminology in the NCAA rulebook calls it a Technical FOUL. Of course it is different from a regular foul, but it is still considered a type of foul. How hard is that to understand? Technical fouls have different resulting circumstances than do normal fouls. But yeah, I think the quibbling is a little much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestjohn 90 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Give me an example of one coach...high school, college...or even little league that doesn't step onto the court.... If he got the air knocked out of him, I can see him acting the way he did...it's a scary feeling...maybe the dude had a panic attack when he got the wind knocked out....I'm not going to judge... I'am going to judge,if he got the air knocked out of him he needs to get off of the sideline.I thought it was a very funny act,if referee called a tech. he needs fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'am going to judge,if he got the air knocked out of him he needs to get off of the sideline.I thought it was a very funny act,if referee called a tech. he needs fired. Wut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Wut? He'is jus bean honist Edited January 18, 2012 by BigBlueAlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Speaking of embarrassing... Just sayin'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 In Blacksburg, VA everyone is in for that annual trip to the NIT. If they finish 4-12 in the ACC like I'm projecting, they'll have to buy their own tickets to the NIT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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