BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I don't disagree that it's much safer. In fact, completely agree.I tried to drive at this in my initial post...the extended distance makes that district ridiculous. But it's not a district. It's a conference for the first round of the post season for sports other than football. Graham will still be in the MED and Richlands and Tazewell will be in the CMD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 can't wait for 2 more years of this system to pass so they can come up with another one even more crazy...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 But it's not a district. It's a conference for the first round of the post season for sports other than football. Graham will still be in the MED and Richlands and Tazewell will be in the CMD. Exactly.....Richlands wouldn't even have to travel to Grayson...or vice versa..in many years. First off, they would have to be paired against each other. Secondly, it would have to be in a sport where the conference tournament or playoff is held at home sites rather than a central location. Again, it's not much different than having a post-season tournament game at Carroll County--and all the SWD members have been playing them in the regular season PLUS the tournament for over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 as far as I can grasp...the only time this is going to be a real problem is in the winter...and I'm guessing the schools involved will just re-schedule if the weather is a problem. The real travel time is going to come once you reach the final four of any sport... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Just chiming in.... This conference proposal seems pretty logical. I don't know why I think that. I'm positive that I couldn't explain it to anyone else. And, at least on its face, it's about as complicated as it possibly could be. But overall, I think I'm okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Just chiming in.... This conference proposal seems pretty logical. I don't know why I think that. I'm positive that I couldn't explain it to anyone else. And, at least on its face, it's about as complicated as it possibly could be. But overall, I think I'm okay with it. Here's a more simplified look at what the regionals for 2A West would look like. Again, this would be for all sports BUT football, with: TWO out of each conference. Conf 39: Tazewell, Richlands, Graham, Grayson, Marion Conf 40: Grundy, Lee, Gate City, VHS, Battle, Union, Central Conf 37: Gretna, Appomattox, Nelson Co, Chatham, Dan River Conf 38: Floyd, Giles, Glenvar, James River, Martinsville As I mentioned earlier, the proposal indicates that the region could opt for a sub-regional format in which Conf 39 & 40 is one half of the bracket and Conf 37 & 38 is the other half. That would essentially guarantee far SWVA of having a final four participant every year in sports like basketball, softball, volleyball, etc. since the winners and runners up from each half advance to the final four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I must have missed it, how are the Final Fours done? I dont like the current Football setup. I would Prefer a East and a West Champion face for the State Title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I must have missed it, how are the Final Fours done? I dont like the current Football setup. I would Prefer a East and a West Champion face for the State Title Based on that presentation that someone else linked early in the thread, the East and West champs and runners up advance to the Final Four with East winner vs West runners up and vice-versa. IMO this is the worst part of the proposal. They should just have the two West finalists and two East finalists meet in the Final Four and not even bother with a regional final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhstigerfan 12 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Based on that presentation that someone else linked early in the thread, the East and West champs and runners up advance to the Final Four with East winner vs West runners up and vice-versa. IMO this is the worst part of the proposal. They should just have the two West finalists and two East finalists meet in the Final Four and not even bother with a regional final. Or how about have 8 conferences divided into four regions. 2 conferences per region, top two from each conference goes to regionals and the 4 region champs in the final four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Or how about have 8 conferences divided into four regions. 2 conferences per region, top two from each conference goes to regionals and the 4 region champs in the final four. That would be perfect; I just hope someone at one of the schools will propose it to the VHSL. It would save a ton on travel because the regions would be more compact and you'd only need two rounds to determine a region champ. It helps with bad weather, too, because if the first round gets rained/snowed out on Tuesday, you can still play Wednesday or Thursday (or even Friday if needed, with a final on Saturday). Plus, if the region championship game was "win or go home" it might improve attendance. As it stands now in hoops, baseball, etc if you lose the region, big deal, you still move on to state quarterfinals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 483 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I bet falcon man will love the conference Abingdon is in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Or how about have 8 conferences divided into four regions. 2 conferences per region, top two from each conference goes to regionals and the 4 region champs in the final four. Sounds good to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhstigerfan 12 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 That would be perfect; I just hope someone at one of the schools will propose it to the VHSL. It would save a ton on travel because the regions would be more compact and you'd only need two rounds to determine a region champ. It helps with bad weather, too, because if the first round gets rained/snowed out on Tuesday, you can still play Wednesday or Thursday (or even Friday if needed, with a final on Saturday). Plus, if the region championship game was "win or go home" it might improve attendance. As it stands now in hoops, baseball, etc if you lose the region, big deal, you still move on to state quarterfinals. Also, the regular season still needs to mean something in the post season besides only for seeding. District champions should be guaranteed a spot in the regional tournament no matter how they place in the conference tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoard 18 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I bet falcon man will love the conference Abingdon is in! Carroll County has it even better. Their opponents: EC Glass Jefferson Forest Pulaski Salem GW-Danville Bassett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrywave 10 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 has there been a final approval on this? Everyone is going to have their opinion on this but i think grundy is getting hurt bad in this deal for all sports. Conference 40: From Grundy Travel time to Union 1 hr 50 min - 70 miles Travel time to Gate City 2 hrs - 77 miles Travel time to Lee 2 hrs 20 min - 100 miles Travel time to John Battle 1 hr 30 min - 68 miles Travel time to Va High 1 hr 45 min - 73 miles Travel time to Central 1 hr 30 min - 55 miles This is estimated by google maps. Trip for a bus will be longer. Why is Grundy not in Conference 39? It would be the old SWD (-Carroll +Grayson) from back in the late 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Totally agree. But rem., Conferences are only for the playoffs. Personally, I'd rather see 8 (full bracket) & 5 (1 play-in game) than a 7 & 6 split... makes planning easier. But the new alignment just out has us in 39. (AND moves Holston and Northwood into 47, which had been just BDD schools) http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/rr-2013-15-revised-conference-plan-model-only.pdf Edited April 27, 2012 by VHSLhelper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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