blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (Reuters) - Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade. U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge Washington denies. The month-long talks at U.N. headquarters broke off after the United States - along with Russia and other major arms producers - said it had problems with the draft treaty and asked for more time. But the U.N. General Assembly's disarmament committee moved quickly after Obama's win to approve a resolution calling for a new round of talks March 18-28. It passed with 157 votes in favor, none against and 18 abstentions. U.N. diplomats said the vote had been expected before Tuesday's U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Superstorm Sandy, which caused a three-day closure of the United Nations last week. An official at the U.S. mission said Washington's objectives have not changed. "We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said. "We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of our citizens to bear arms," he said. Read More Here http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-arms-treaty-un-idUSBRE8A627J20121107 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So long, 2nd Amendment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So long, 2nd Amendment... There will be much blood spilled over this before it's all said and done. There are individuals and groups already that have vowed to fight to the death throughout this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The moment the Second Amendment is repealed is the moment we have Civil War II in this country. That's not what seeks to happen here, and the Constitution trumps foreign treaties, but it should still be stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The moment the Second Amendment is repealed is the moment we have Civil War II in this country.That's not what seeks to happen here, and the Constitution trumps foreign treaties, but it should still be stated. Yep. If it were to happen there would be a revolt of epic proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Read More Here http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-arms-treaty-un-idUSBRE8A627J20121107 The next two paragraphs are kind of important to the story: "U.S. officials have acknowledged privately that the treaty under discussion would have no effect on domestic gun sales and ownership because it would apply only to exports. The main reason the arms trade talks are taking place at all is that the United States - the world's biggest arms trader accounting for more than 40 percent of global conventional arms transfers - reversed U.S. policy on the issue after Obama was first elected and decided in 2009 to support a treaty." My 2 cents: While governments sell arms to countries and groups that support their interests, there are also groups out there that are arming terrorists and insurgents. Do you ever wonder how Al Queda and the Taliban, or FARC in Columbia get machine guns, AK-47s and RPGs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebel1 35 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 As long as they don't mess with myself and whats in my gun safe, I could care less about what they did about exports. Just my take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvacsas2 15 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 A treaty with severe restrictions on private firearms would never clear the senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 A treaty with severe restrictions on private firearms would never clear the senate. It's the chipping away that is concerning. Take away a little here, a little there, keep it in the news, continue to preach gun control until the next generation is brainwashed enough to let their guard down. The next thing you know, no more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens. One day only the criminals, the military and law enforcement will own guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 A treaty with severe restrictions on private firearms would never clear the senate. Heck, it doesn't even make it to the floor, it dies in committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Heck, it doesn't even make it to the floor, it dies in committee. I agree but it is still fun stocking up on guns and ammo. If nothing else, I will do it for the zombies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 A treaty with severe restrictions on private firearms would never clear the senate. Constitution trumps foreign treaties. Well, I mean, I guess the Senate "could" pass it, and Obama "would have illicit dreams" about it that evening, but we're looking at virtually the same court that ruled in Heller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 the UN is a joke...it has no power over the USA, and as long as there is some sort of balance of power in the USA, nothing is going to change it. That's one thing that scares me about having one party rule all 3 branches...never a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 As long as the branches are split between different parties then America as a whole is the winner. More balance, everybody wins some, everybody loses some. As long as they cooperate. I dont mean to sound like some kind of nut job out looking for the next Civil War but I mean it when I say this, the Constitution says im free, my firearms guarantee it. I will not give them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 As long as the branches are split between different parties then America as a whole is the winner. More balance, everybody wins some, everybody loses some. As long as they cooperate. I dont mean to sound like some kind of nut job out looking for the next Civil War but I mean it when I say this, the Constitution says im free, my firearms guarantee it. I will not give them up. You don't sound like a nut job at all. You sound like an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 now just hope that the supreme court somehow manages to not have much turnover in the next four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Should we build bunkers? I've been stocking up on mayonnaise and condoms this week. I urge all of you to follow suit. THE SOUTH IS RISING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Should we build bunkers? I've been stocking up on mayonnaise and condoms this week. I urge all of you to follow suit. THE SOUTH IS RISING! Will Ben be your bunker partner? Ben Dover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Will Ben be your bunker partner? Ben Dover? HAHAHAHAHAA!!! Where do you come up with this stuff!!!!?!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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