goose111874 967 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 If your going all time teams from 70 until now my top 3 would go 1. Appalachia just because of their accomplishments but mainly how competitive they were against the bigger schools. 2. Powell Valley - they were always just so consistent every year and being from Appy it made me sick at the time 3. Gate City - if you go back earlier than 1970 they may be #1 over Appy. I just never got to see Giles Graham and Richland's enough being from Appalachia to rank them even though they may belong in front of my top 3. Playoff time we ended up playing teams like Bath Co. or Parry McCluer. BearDawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Richlands certainly doesn't belong anywhere near top 3 over those schools since 70. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 20 hours ago, Jason said: That was a very good year for this area. Lee High made it to the D4 semis that year. Lee made it to the D4 Finals in either 89 or 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 4 hours ago, SXSW said: Really Dude???....That is the typical way now days, if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them names on social media or a message board..My opinion is mine and I will not bow down at the alter of Powell Valley because my opinion is different from yours. I even put PV on the Mount Rushmore of All-time programs in Southwest Va. but since I didn't list them first is that what offended you? I took no offense, but that post was through Blue Devil colored glasses. Just like the assumption made by another poster that the 89 Viking team couldn't get past the Devils in a playoff game. The only difference in the regular season was a late missed FG, the guts to go for 2 in OT to win, and a wide open receiver in the end zone being under thrown by an All State QB. It's all assumptions...and those don't pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 20 hours ago, Jason said: Sure did. The smallest school would have gave D4 fits and maybe could have won it. That match up happened in 1997 in week 4. Appy beat Lee 36-21. Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXSW 557 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, sup_rbeast said: I took no offense, but that post was through Blue Devil colored glasses. Just like the assumption made by another poster that the 89 Viking team couldn't get past the Devils in a playoff game. The only difference in the regular season was a late missed FG, the guts to go for 2 in OT to win, and a wide open receiver in the end zone being under thrown by an All State QB. It's all assumptions...and those don't pan out. I try not to let my fandom get in the way of reality, but sometimes it does. What PV did was outstanding over the long haul! It all meshed for them when Robbins came and with that run of athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Ryan4VT said: Richlands certainly doesn't belong anywhere near top 3 over those schools since 70. When was it when Richlands started becoming a major program sometime during the 80's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 hours ago, SXSW said: I try not to let my fandom get in the way of reality, but sometimes it does. What PV did was outstanding over the long haul! It all meshed for them when Robbins came and with that run of athletes. I miss when both teams were elite level at the same time. Since Union consolidated, it seems one team is up while the other is down. GC had a great run from 05-2013 or so barring a couple games but Union has been better recently. I remember one of the best games I've ever seen was in a monsoon in GC during the mid 90s. It was a state title team and PV won but it was a nail biter. 2004 was also an epic game, I remember that more vividly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 hours ago, goose111874 said: When was it when Richlands started becoming a major program sometime during the 80's ? Richlands was pretty competitive 1991-1994 When they won their first championship during the Vaught era in 1992. Then with Mance 1998, 2001-now has been the most consistent. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I can't rightly judge pre-1990, but since I wouldn't hesitate to place Powell Valley first, Appalachia second, and Gate City third. I will admit during my era, Graham was the team to beat in the SWD, but Richlands began to do so more often beginning in the 90s. I will defer to Bluefield researcher for the exact numbers, but I remember 92, 93, and 1998 being championship years (1993 was playoff ineligible due to cleatgate). I'd have no issues having Richlands, Graham, Giles, and George Wythe on the next tier. I will admit the 1998 Powell Valley team was the best I had seen or played against over that stretch. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 That 98 team from PV is the best team from my memory. 03 Gate City was a great one but not near as loaded as 98 PV. I never saw 2006 or '10 Richlands but know they were something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebluedev 13 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 03 GC was very balanced, without Julius who would pv have went to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Olebluedev said: 03 GC was very balanced, without Julius who would pv have went to. FB Victor Williams. Usually when Julius didn't get the handoff, Victor did and he was sometimes the factor in some games from what I remember.y PV could have won state without Julius. He was definitely the best player on the team but he was not THE reason for success. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Also had huge TE/DE Josh Warren, who ended up as a D1 TE at Wake Forest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jake Stepp, Josh Callahan, Michael Prewitt, Shea Chapman, Keith Davis. Just to name a few others. Though some were on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebluedev 13 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 But offensively if it was just williams as the main rb threat could they have won it all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I forgot Matt McCoy too. Big offensive threat I believe. QB Jake Stepp. Josh Warren as Big mentioned. I think Derrick Clark too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I don't think it's fair to take the stud off the team and only base opinion on the remainder, BUT I remember them having several D2 and D3 caliber players. Matt McCoy was one of the toughest I remember playing against on one of those PV teams. In would say most of the teams on the list had their share. It would be tough for me to evaluate the late 90s Gate City teams after removing Shoemaker, Beasley, Houseright, and Wolfe. The Richlands 1992 teams and 2006 teams were well-oiled machines, but remove one or two of their best players and they are above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 My top 5 individual championship teams that I have seen (no slight to Appalachia since I didn't see play) would go: 1998 Powell Valley 2006 Richlands 1997 Powell Valley 1997 Gate City 1992 Richlands, 2003 Gate City (tie) Honorable Mentions 1995 Graham, 95? Powell Valley (Thomas Jones senior year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 95 was TJs senior year. And I'm not so sure the 97 PV team wasn't slightly better but it's splitting hairs. I thought 97 proved more on field, beating Lee, GC (state champs) and Appalachia (state champs) in regular season but 98 was more seasoned and prob more consistent. And I don't believe you could rank 97 GC ahead of 97 Appalachia as Appalachia beat them. Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, BigWinners said: 95 was TJs senior year. And I'm not so sure the 97 PV team wasn't slightly better but it's splitting hairs. I thought 97 proved more on field, beating Lee, GC (state champs) and Appalachia (state champs) in regular season but 98 was more seasoned and prob more consistent. And I don't believe you could rank 97 GC ahead of 97 Appalachia as Appalachia beat them. My disclaimer was never seeing them play...I would rank them higher if I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, tornado99 said: My disclaimer was never seeing them play...I would rank them higher if I had. Ah okay that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olebluedev 13 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 96 gc was one of the best to not win. Sometimes other than being good you have to a little luck to win it all. But in regards to the 98 pv team I was just curious. I didn't follow the lpd much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I My best not to win that I saw would include in chronological order would include: 1996 Gate City 2001? Graham 2005 Richlands 2010 Richlands 2015 Richlands I would have Honaker Heath Miller's senior year, and 2002 Gate City as honorable mentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, tornado99 said: I My best not to win that I saw would include in chronological order would include: 1996 Gate City 2001? Graham 2005 Richlands 2010 Richlands 2015 Richlands I would have Honaker Heath Miller's senior year, and 2002 Gate City as honorable mentions. 04 PV was very good as well, losing in the title game by six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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