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  1. Here is the 8 man standings for virginia. https://www.maxpreps.com/m/league/default.aspx?leagueid=10f572d4-f416-48e8-9cf8-330564ffdcd5&ssid=97e3f828-856d-419e-b94f-7f41319fe3d3
  2. If you were to get 4 or 5 schools in this area that would be willing to play eight man football it might help our some of the smaller schools.
  3. Robinson won class 6 and Brooke Point won class 5. William Fleming had 1 individual winner. https://news.yahoo.com/vhsl-wrestling-highlights-grassfield-finished-034500901.html
  4. Hello as you can see I have been working on playoffs for Class B and Class C and there is still a lot of work to do. If any of you can find out some info on the 2 games below I would appreciate it. 1. 1930 Marion won the championship over Clifton Forge It says championship but I think it should say Class B Championship but I have no proof of that. 2. 1942 from my understanding Covington beat Martinsville 26-0 in the Class B championship but I have no proof on that except that Lynn Burke said that it happened. If any of you find out anything please post some proof that this did happen and thank you all for your help.
  5. Ryan I was answering his question that he asked. So I was not doing anything wrong. You need to be careful of what you write.
  6. Jefferson Roanoke had away games in 1930 Newport News 1931 Portsmouth and 1932 Norfolk. Clifton Forge 1934 away Fredericksburg You can look at fourseasons.com to see. You are right I could not find anything from Virginia High or Big Stone Gap except for playoffs.
  7. There were times when teams would travel to Fredericksburg, Richmond or Suffolk for a regular season game. I bet busses are better than they were back then.
  8. Teams use to travel a lot further back in the 1930s and 1940s with worse conditions.
  9. On Virginia preps message board Lynn Burke posted some results of his research and I wanted to add them to this site. I would like to get all of this updated on fourseasonsfootball.com because I think it is very interesting history. Pre-1920 First, in many cases, playoff game were simply arranged. Everything was unofficial since there was no statewide governing body for football. The Virginia Literary and Athletic League didn't start overseeing football until 1920. And there were arguments, sometimes very heated arguments, over which teams had legitimate claims to championships. 1914 John Marshall Richmond >The Richmond Times-Dispatch on Nov. 24 says John Marshall claimed the Eastern State championship. JM then beat Roanoke 7-6 in an East-West game. JM lost only to Raleigh, N.C. and was 7-0 against Virginia schools before beating Roanoke. 1916 John Marshall Richmond >On Nov. 27, the Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk reported that Roanoke chose to play John Marshall (7-0-1) for the championship, rather than Maury, which was 8-0-1. Because of that Maury challenged the winner, but the Dec. 5 Times-Dispatch said JM would not play Maury, that the team had disbanded despite an offer from Virginia Tech for an expense-paid trip to Blacksburg to play Maury. So the Virginian-Pilot reported Maury won the Tidewater championship and tied John Marshall for the state championship. 1919 Jefferson Roanoke >On Dec. 7, 1919, the Richmond Times-Dispatch printed that Roanoke’s 8-0 victory over John Marshall secured the state championship, but in the same newspaper, unbeaten Newport News issued a challenge to the winner. And two days later, Lynchburg disputed Roanoke’s championship. The Newport News Daily Press then said Newport News claimed the championship since it reported Roanoke declined to play the Typhoon, despite an offer from Virginia Tech to play host to the game. Newport News and John Marshall had played a scoreless tie early in the season. Next is Class B champions 1925 Norton > According to newspapers, Norton and South Norfolk (now Oscar Smith) won half-state championships. The Newport News newspaper said Norton forfeited to South Norfolk, setting up an overall title game between Newport News and South Norfolk (more on that later) 1928 South Boston defeated Big Stone Gap 1928 Alexandria defeated Oceana > The Virginian-Pilot said Alexandria beat Boston 31-12 for the Class B championship. In the semifinals, Alexandria beat Clifton Forge and South Boston beat Big Stone Gap. In the first round, Big Stone Gap beat Christiansburg and Alexandria beat Oceana. 1929 Washington and Lee tied Big Stone Gap 12 - 12 > In the semifinals, Big Stone Gap and Saltville played to a 0-0 tie. The Big Stone Gap Post reported the Virginia Literary and Athletic League declared, because of the two ties, the three teams involved would share the title. Left out was Suffolk, which lost to Washington-Lee 20-0 in the other semifinal. 1931 William Byrd defeated Norton Class B playoff > The VLAL did away with Class B state championships in favor of half-state championships. William Byrd won the West, Suffolk in the East. 1934 Suffolk 1934 Clifton Forge Half State Championship > Suffolk and Clifton Forge were half-state champions. 1935 Suffolk > Since Fredericksburg forfeited to Suffolk in the East and Narrows forfeited to Clifton Forge in the West, the VLAL let the teams play each other. Suffolk won 12-0. 1936 Fredericksburg > Fredericksburg won in the East, Big Stone Gap in the West 1938 Fredericksburg > Fredericksburg won in the East, Clifton Forge won in the West 1939 Fredericksburg 1939 Clifton Forge tied Big Stone Gap 0-0 Half State Championship > Half-state champs. Fredericksburg beat Cradock 25-0 1940 Appalachia > Half-state again, Appalachia in the West, Suffolk in the East. 1941 Appalachia > Clifton Forge and Appalachia won their half-state titles, but decided not to play a state championship game. 1942 Martinsville > Covington won the East, Martinsville the West. Covington beat Martinsville 26-0 in the championship game. 1943 Harrisonburg > Harrisonburg in the East, William Fleming in the West 1944 Harrisonburg > Harrisonburg in the East, Wytheville in the West These are not state championship games. Class B schools could play regional championships, District 1 vs. 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6 and 7 vs 8. They were not mandatory and there were no games past the regional games. 1946 Lexington 1948 Glen Allen defeated Suffolk 1949 Glen Allen defeated Suffolk 1949 William Fleming tied Handley 14 - 14 1952 William Fleming Next is class C Champions 1939 Narrows Class C playoff > I'm missing some information here. I have Narrows winning the West, and Warrenton in the East, but I have no record of a championship game. 1941 Culpeper > Culpeper beat Deep Creek 30-0 in the East, East Stone Gap beat Bedford by forfeit in the West because the Bedford coach died of a heart attack the week before the game. Finally Im not sure what classification these are. 1930 Marion > Class B state championship game 1936 Big Stone Gap > Half-state champion in the West. See 1936 above. 1937 Covington Half State Champions > Covington and Fredericksburg won half-state championship, but didn't play a championship game because they couldn't agree on a site. 1939 Warrenton 1939 Narrows > See Class C above 1941 Clifton Forge defeated Suffolk > See Class B above 1942 Covington Half State Champions > See Class B above 1945 Covington tied Suffolk 6-6 playoff > Covington tied Suffolk in the Class B East, William Fleming won the West See explanation of regional championship games above 1946 Covington Half State Champions 1947 George Wythe Whythville Regional Champions 1947 Tazewell Regional Champions 1947 Blackstone 1948 Virginia Regional Championship 1949 Appalachia Regional Champions 1950 Coeburn Regional Championship 1951 Liberty Bedford playoff win 1951 Richlands Regional Champions Final note: After the VLAL started Class B playoffs in 1925, it allowed the Class B champion to challenge the Class A champion for the overall title. 1925: Newport News pulled ahead in the second half and beat South Norfolk 47-6 1926: Bristol forfeited the overall championship game to Wilson, saying the Portsmouth school wouldn’t offer a guarantee that would cover Bristol’s expenses to come to Portsmouth That was it. Beginning in 1927, Class A schools determined the state championship only by the regular season, something that didn't change until 1965. Hope this helps .....
  10. https://www.mlb.com/news/maryland-virginia-tech-set-for-pinstripe-bowl-at-yankee-stadium
  11. I found this information on fourseasonsfootball.com What I have listed below is the State Champions that are not listed on the VHSL website. It is for Class B and C. If you find anything that is not up to date (which I am sure there is some things that need to be updated contact fourseasonsfootball.com and let them know so that they can update it since that is what I am using for my references. Thank you. State Champions 1914 John Marshall Richmond Defeated Jefferson (Roanoke) Nothing State Championship 1916 John Marshall Richmond Defeated Jefferson (Roanoke) Nothing State Championship 1917 Salem (Andrew Lewis) Defeated Maury State Championship Nothing 1919 Jefferson Roanoke Defeated John Marshall Richmond Championship Championship Class B 1925 Norton defeated Altavista Class B Championship Class B Championship 1926 Virginia defeated South Norfolk Class B State Championship Class B Championship 1927 Charlottesville Lane defeated Christiansburg Class B Championship Class B Championship 1928 Alexandria defeated C H Friend (South Boston) Class B Championship 1929 Washington and Lee tied Big Stone Gap 12 - 12 Class B Playoff Class B Playoff 1930 1931 William Byrd defeated Norton Class B playoff nothing 1932 From what I understand is that there was no State Championship for Class B in 1932 so I have listed below the undefeated teams for that year. 9-0 Lane 9-0 Appalachia 6-0 Crewe 1933 From what i understand is that there was no State Championship for Class B in 1933 so I have listed below the undefeated teams for that year. 12-0 Petersburg 11-0 Virginia High 8-0 Clifton Forge 7-0 Wiiliam Bird 1934 Suffolk defeated Robert E. Lee Staunton Class B Championship Nothing 1934 Clifton Forge defeated Martinsville Half State Championship Class B Half State Championship Class B 1935 Suffolk defeated Clifton Forge Class B Championship Class B State Championship 1936 Fredericksburg defeated Big Stone Gap Class B playoff Class B playoff 1937 1938 Fredericksburg defeated Cradock Class B playoff Class B playoff 1938 Culpeper defeated Churchland Noting Class B playoff 1939 James Monroe defeated Cradock Class B playoff Class B playoff 1939 Clifton Forge tied Big Stone Gap 0-0 Half State Championship Class B Class B playoff 1940 Appalachia defeated William Byrd Class B Championship Class B playoff 1940 Suffolk defeated Lexington Class B playoff Class B Playoff 1941 Appalachia defeated William Flemming Class B Championship Nothing 1942 Covington defeated Martinsville Class B Championship Class B Playoff 1943 Harrisonburg defeated Suffolk Class B playoff nothing 1944 Harrisonburg defeated Morrison Newport News Class B Championship Class B playoff 1945 Suffolk tied Covington 6-6 class B playoff playoff 1945 William Fleming defeated Wise Class B Championship Nothing 1946 Lexington defeated Bedford Class B playoff Nothing 1947 1948 William Bird defeated Handley Class B playoff Class B playoff 1948 Glen Allen defeated Suffolk nothing Class B playoff 1949 Glen Allen defeated Suffolk Class B playoff Class B playoff 1949 William Fleming tied Handley 14 - 14 Class B playoff Class B playoff 1950 1951 1952 William Fleming defeated Warren County Class B playoff Class B playoff at Roanoke Class C 1939 Narrows defeated Bedford Class C Playoff western VA C Class Championship 1940 Bedford defeated Culpeper Class C Championship at Bedford Class C state championship 1941 Culpeper defeated Deep Creek Class C state championship Class C championship Not sure what classification 1925 South Norfolk defeated Fredericksburg Nothing Championship 1930 Marion defeated Clifton Forge Championship playoff 1937 Covington defeated Radford Half State championship Half State Championship 1937 Abington defeated Galax postseason game postseason game 1939 Warrenton defeated Blackstone playoff Nothing 1941 Clifton Forge defeated Suffolk playoff playoff 1946 Covington defeated Tazewell Half State championship Half State Championship 1947 George Wythe Wythville Defeated Covington Regional Champions Regional Championship at Covington 1947 Tazewell defeated Wise Regional Championship Regional Championship at Tazewell 1947 Blackstone defeated Schoolfield playoff playoff 1948 Virginia defeated Coeburn Regional Championship Regional Championship 1948 Emporia defeated Schoolfield Regional Playoff Regional playoff 1949 Appalachia defeated Tazewell Nothing Regional Champions 1949 Covington defeated Highland Springs postseason Nothing 1950 Coeburn defeated Virginia Regional Championship Regional Championship 1951 Bedford defeated Farmville playoff win Not on schedule 1951 Richlands defeated Appalachia Regional Champion Nothing 1951 Pulaski defeated Lexington Blue Ridge Reg Champ Blue Ridge Reg Champ 1952 Norton defeated Abington regional playoff Regional playoff
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