rvtne216 278 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Bonds has hit 2 home runs today he now has 753 hrs when do u think he will break Aarons record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Who cares...he's a cheater...Aaron will still hold the record in my book...if baseball won't recognize the accomplishments of Pete Rose then they shouldn't acknowledge Bonds number of HRs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveFan09 50 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 exactally i cant stand cheaters.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,444 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 i am a die hard red sox fan, and even if a rod stays with the yanks, the earlier he brakes bonds mark the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Not only is he a cheater, he's a jerk of a person too. I haven't been able to stand him since the first time i knew who he was. With that said, it still is an impressive record to break. I'll give him props just for sticking it out that long, but when the day's done, he won't be the winner that he sees himself as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Barry Bonds = a cheating, lying, waste of space and talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 But what u fail to see is that even if he did juice up it still takes him to swing the bat to hit the ball, juicing up doesnt make his hand and eye cordnation any better. yeah its sad that it comes down to this but u really got to think about it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] But what u fail to see is that even if he did juice up it still takes him to swing the bat to hit the ball, juicing up doesnt make his hand and eye cordnation any better. yeah its sad that it comes down to this but u really got to think about it.. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but look at it this way...If your in class taking a test and you decide to write some of the study guide on your hand before the test to give yourself a little "boost" in the gradebook. Well, the teacher gives the test and to your dismay nothing you wrote on your hand is on the test. Well, half way through the the test the teacher notices the writing on your hand. Will you not be in trouble...are you not a cheater? Just a little analogy I thought of just now. It makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD4VT 11 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... [/ QUOTE ] He was a good hitter long before he started using steroids. His ability to make contact with the ball isn't an issue. The issue is his use of ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES that give him the power to turn fly ball outs into home runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... [/ QUOTE ] He was a good hitter long before he started using steroids. His ability to make contact with the ball isn't an issue. The issue is his use of ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES that give him the power to turn fly ball outs into home runs. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. If you can't make contact with the ball, you won't be in the Major League. So him being able to just make contact isn't that great of a feat. The thing that made it fly is illegal substances. Obviously, no one has done anything about it yet, but it's only a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... [/ QUOTE ] He was a good hitter long before he started using steroids. His ability to make contact with the ball isn't an issue. The issue is his use of ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES that give him the power to turn fly ball outs into home runs. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. If you can't make contact with the ball, you won't be in the Major League. So him being able to just make contact isn't that great of a feat. The thing that made it fly is illegal substances. Obviously, no one has done anything about it yet, but it's only a matter of time. [/ QUOTE ] What can they do to him nothing, he used before the MLB made it to where they werent allowed. So there just going to half to deal with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... [/ QUOTE ] He was a good hitter long before he started using steroids. His ability to make contact with the ball isn't an issue. The issue is his use of ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES that give him the power to turn fly ball outs into home runs. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly! Let's compare his first four year in the Majors with the last 18... '86-'89...Averaged 133 hits/season '90-'07...Averaged 131 hits/season '86-'89...Averaged 21 HRs/season, 16% of total hits, 1 HR every 6.74 games '90-'07...Averaged 37 HRs/season, 28% of total hits, 1 HR every 3.55 games '86-'89...BA .260 '90-'07...BA .310 His number of hits have gone down, yet his average has gone up...as BigD said, the fly ball outs "suddenly" turned into HRs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,444 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 and the main reason the hits have gone down is because the walks have went up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sources 10 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But what u fail to see is that even if he did juice up it still takes him to swing the bat to hit the ball, juicing up doesnt make his hand and eye cordnation any better. yeah its sad that it comes down to this but u really got to think about it.. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but look at it this way...If your in class taking a test and you decide to write some of the study guide on your hand before the test to give yourself a little "boost" in the gradebook. Well, the teacher gives the test and to your dismay nothing you wrote on your hand is on the test. Well, half way through the the test the teacher notices the writing on your hand. Will you not be in trouble...are you not a cheater? Just a little analogy I thought of just now. It makes sense to me. [/ QUOTE ] I agree on the hand eye coordination point but the steroids still provided him with more power, endurance, etc than non-using players. Bottom line, he cheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] and the main reason the hits have gone down is because the walks have went up. [/ QUOTE ] And he misses alot more games now that he is older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] What if the steroids never came up till 10 to 15 years after Bonds had broken the record? Then what would u say. I am not taking up for him in anyway. But he still has to swing the bat and see the ball, roids dont make it work that way on its own. you and everyone else and me can say what we want about this, but even if the comish and aaron dont show up when he does break it its just going to hurt the game even more than it is right now... [/ QUOTE ] I do think Bud Seleg should be there when its broken because that is his job...but why should Aaron be there. I know if I were Aaron and hit all of those homeruns with out any assistance I wouldnt want to see my record broken by a guy the has all but been proven to have juiced up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesL_CcLB34 10 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 why do you even care when he breaks aarons record if anything you should be hoping he breaks his leg or something....btw everyone get a hold of a sports illustrated this week its got Hank Aaron on the front and read rick reilleys column on the very back page it's funny its about what you should do when (hopefully not) bonds breaks his record....my favorite one---- call cooperstown and ask them what hat size there gonna have on his figure when he's inducted 7 and half, 8, or 8 and half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 So, we hate that Bonds will break that record because he supposedly took steroids? Whew, I mean, it's not like many others in the game have done the same thing and are still doing things like that to stay ahead, and not that there are probably many who have done the same while breaking other records......right? Ha! Not that I would much rather see Arod being doing that now or even Griffey over either one of them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I don't care to see Bonds break it. I kinda like bonds. Always have. But A-Rod will be the first to 800 HRs. Barring some kind of serious injury, he will be the best HR hitter ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I don't care to see Bonds break it. I kinda like bonds. Always have. But A-Rod will be the first to 800 HRs. Barring some kind of serious injury, he will be the best HR hitter ever. [/ QUOTE ] Its not that I care to see him break the record...because in my mind the hammer will always hold the record. I just cant stand Barry's attitude. I know he has to put up with alot of crap from the media...but he has always acted like a jerk...even before all of this steroids stuff came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesL_CcLB34 10 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 The guy doesnt even give rights to his name to put him in video games what a jerk i mean what guy doesnt like to play himself on a video game? maybe he just can't stand the thought of virtual juiced homeruns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The guy doesnt even give rights to his name to put him in video games what a jerk i mean what guy doesnt like to play himself on a video game? maybe he just can't stand the thought of virtual juiced homeruns... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah thats it u hit the nail on the head.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanjt08 10 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 bonds is a cheater. who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] bonds is a cheater. who cares [/ QUOTE ] I care because I don't want a cheater to hold such an elite record in baseball history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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