Letter from Grandpa - priceless

[blueinbama 259]

I know I'll get flamed for this one, but it was too good not to post. So have at me, Libs, I deserve it!

 

Letter from Grandpa - priceless

 

John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.

John has a granddaughter. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to nightclubs and restaurants.

Ashley campaigned hard for Barack Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.

Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help.

 

Here is his reply:

 

Sweetheart,

 

I received your request for assistance.

 

Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I 'm sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan." Let me explain.

Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people.

Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses. You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when you came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books.. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income to the Wal-Mart.

 

I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning. He already knows about it and he's upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.

 

That's just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than you. You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense.

 

If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111. That is the direct phone number for the White House. You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You said Mr. Obama is going to be the People's President, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you've told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I'm sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago.

 

Perhaps you can now understand what I've been saying all my life: those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don't seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families.

 

Remember how you told me, "Only the richest of the rich will be affected"? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it.

 

As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having

less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.

 

I'm sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free lunches are over. I have no money to give you now. So, congratulations on your choice for "change." For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.

 

Remember, we love you dearly....but from now on you'll need to call the number mentioned above. Your "savior" has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.

 

Good luck, sweetheart.

 

Love,

Grandpa

 

This is for all the know it all kids that voted for OBAMA!!

Edited March 15, 2010 by blueinbama

[NewHampshireRed 94]

This is for all the no it all kids that voted for OBAMA!!

 

Insult I see, and it's "know" not "no" it all kids.

[blueinbama 259]

Insult I see, and it's "know" not "no" it all kids.

 

I didn't write any of the e-mail...I copied and pasted it...but thanks for the correction. Any insult intended was by the writer. I changed it for you. You've been waiting a week or so to catch a mistake I see...lol. That's funny. Pathetic, but funny.

Edited March 15, 2010 by blueinbama

[NewHampshireRed 94]

I didn't write any of the e-mail...I copied and pasted it...but thanks for the correction.

 

Well then if that is the case I do apologize.

[blueinbama 259]

Well then if that is the case I do apologize.

 

So do you have a comment about the e-mail, or did you just stop by to stalk?

[NewHampshireRed 94]

I have many opinions about this e-mail, but mixed emotions about it at the same time. One- The girl is apparently old enough she should learn to work and make a respectable living for herself. Two- no one should rely on the elderly to take up the burden you drop on them for being to selfish and lazy to work to achieve your own goals. Three- I can say that I am more bias towards helping the less fortunate, except the one(s) who rely on someone to help them because they are a alcoholic or on drugs so bad that they would rather buy their quick fix than surporting their own family. Or they are just out right ignorant like the young lady in this e-mail. Four- the young lady in this e-mail states that she lives in a 3 bedroom town house, after her roomates moved out she should have done the responsible thing and rented a lower cost one bedroom apartment for herself instead of asking her grandfather for money.

 

 

Now with that in mind, I also understand the reasoning behind this political e-mail. I just think it was a poor excuse of showing so.

Edited March 16, 2010 by mapper

[WaveFan09 50]

agreed!

[blueinbama 259]

I have many opinions about this e-mail, but mixed emotions about it at the same time. One- The girl is apparently old enough she should learn to work and make a respectable living for herself. Two- no one should rely on the elderly to take up the burden you drop on them for being to selfish and lazy to work to achieve your own goals. Three- I can say that I am more bias towards helping the less fortunate, except the one(s) who rely on someone to help them because they are a alcoholic or on drugs so bad that they would rather buy their quick fix than surporting their own family. Or they are just out right ignorant like the young lady in this e-mail. Four- the young lady in this e-mail states that she lives in a 3 bedroom town house, after her roomates moved out she should have done the responsible thing and rented a lower cost one bedroom apartment for herself instead of asking her grandfather for money.

 

 

Now with that in mind, I also understand the reasoning behind this political e-mail. I just think it was a poor excuse of showing so.

 

You've totally missed the point. It's not all about the girl, it's about people like me. I'm the Grandpa. I'm who this e-mail represents. You see, the liberal stance toward Obama, at least those who choose to continue to make excuses for him, is to wait and see. Let's pass the healthcare bill without really knowing everything about it, without knowing what else is hidden in the shadows of this bill, and trust Obama to know best. It's about the millions who blindly followed this man to the White House, with no leadership record for him on which to stand. It's about people like me, a 58 year old man who has lost thousands of dollars in his retirement fund under Obama's "change" agenda. There are millions just like me who would like to be able to retire some day. It's about those of us who have worked hard for 40 years, only to see it all pissed away by this arrogant piece of s*** and his administration. That's what it's all about. Put yourself in my shoes, and I guarantee you would be singing a different tune.

[swva_fan 94]

You've totally missed the point. It's not all about the girl, it's about people like me. I'm the Grandpa. I'm who this e-mail represents. You see, the liberal stance toward Obama, at least those who choose to continue to make excuses for him, is to wait and see. Let's pass the healthcare bill without really knowing everything about it, without knowing what else is hidden in the shadows of this bill, and trust Obama to know best. It's about the millions who blindly followed this man to the White House, with no leadership record for him on which to stand. It's about people like me, a 58 year old man who has lost thousands of dollars in his retirement fund under Obama's "change" agenda. There are millions just like me who would like to be able to retire some day. It's about those of us who have worked hard for 40 years, only to see it all pissed away by this arrogant piece of s*** and his administration. That's what it's all about. Put yourself in my shoes, and I guarantee you would be singing a different tune.

 

First off I'm not a Obama supporter, but how have you lost thousands in your retirement fund under Obama? The S&P 500 have gained like 40% since he took office.

[blueinbama 259]

First off I'm not a Obama supporter, but how have you lost thousands in your retirement fund under Obama? The S&P 500 have gained like 40% since he took office.

Are you serious? Here's just a taste.

 

"In the midst of a recession that has taken a heavy toll on many nest eggs, just over half of all working adults ages 50 to 64 say they may delay their retirement -- and another 16% say they never expect to stop working, according to a national survey by the Pew Research Center's Social & Demographic Trends Project".

 

 

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1234/the-threshold-generation

 

(CBS) "The effects of the current economic crisis have touched everyone. Even if you still have a good job and a paid up mortgage, chances are your monthly 401(k) statement will remind you that you've lost a good chunk of your savings".

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/17/60minutes/main4951968.shtml

 

Should I continue?

[GMan 3,569]

Its rather obvious from the replies...they younger adults just don't get it...

[bucfan64 309]

You've totally missed the point. It's not all about the girl, it's about people like me. I'm the Grandpa. I'm who this e-mail represents. You see, the liberal stance toward Obama, at least those who choose to continue to make excuses for him, is to wait and see. Let's pass the healthcare bill without really knowing everything about it, without knowing what else is hidden in the shadows of this bill, and trust Obama to know best. It's about the millions who blindly followed this man to the White House, with no leadership record for him on which to stand. It's about people like me, a 58 year old man who has lost thousands of dollars in his retirement fund under Obama's "change" agenda. There are millions just like me who would like to be able to retire some day. It's about those of us who have worked hard for 40 years, only to see it all pissed away by this arrogant piece of s*** and his administration. That's what it's all about. Put yourself in my shoes, and I guarantee you would be singing a different tune.

 

Well Said!

 

Giving MY money to the "less fortunate" is NOT compassion, it is THEFT!

[NewHampshireRed 94]

You've totally missed the point. It's not all about the girl, it's about people like me. I'm the Grandpa. I'm who this e-mail represents. You see, the liberal stance toward Obama, at least those who choose to continue to make excuses for him, is to wait and see. Let's pass the healthcare bill without really knowing everything about it, without knowing what else is hidden in the shadows of this bill, and trust Obama to know best. It's about the millions who blindly followed this man to the White House, with no leadership record for him on which to stand. It's about people like me, a 58 year old man who has lost thousands of dollars in his retirement fund under Obama's "change" agenda. There are millions just like me who would like to be able to retire some day. It's about those of us who have worked hard for 40 years, only to see it all pissed away by this arrogant piece of s*** and his administration. That's what it's all about. Put yourself in my shoes, and I guarantee you would be singing a different tune.

 

I'm not singing no tune in any direction. I am looking at it from a young person's eyes, as you are looking at it from the Boomers generation. No different tune, I agree with you. The only difference is I am looking at it from the young lady who is like so many young adults in America. I just didn't think the e-mail did a very good job at explaining why his retirement or why his business is loosing so much money. But other than that I agree.

 

The e-mail to me shows how the "Generation X" of society is mostly a money sucking, lazy, non independent group of individuals as we all know most are. But like I said, it depends on what generation you grew up in for how you will interpret this email.

Edited March 16, 2010 by mapper

[blueinbama 259]

Its rather obvious from the replies...they younger adults just don't get it...

 

My point exactly. I have 4 daughters, ages 28, 27, 20 and 18. I think they qualify as young people, and I love them very much. I want them to be able look back and say, "I'm glad somebody finally woke up and stopped the madness back in 2010 instead of just turning a blind eye to the situation and letting that Obama guy run wild and dig us deeper and deeper into a hole we couldn't escape". I don't want them to say, "Why didn't my dad's generation see what was happening? Why didn't someone stop the madness? Why are we now at 30% unemployment? Why didn't they realize taxing businesses at an alarming rate caused those same businesses that were employing the middle class to go bankrupt? Why didn't they scream at the top of their lungs 'Wake up America!!! We're losing our country and allowing countries like China to rule the economic world' "? I want to leave a better country for my kids and my grandkids to live in. I don't want our great Nation to be at the mercy of countries like China...or eventually third world nations who have all the natural resources. We have all those resources at our disposal, so why not use them? Why do some of these over the top environmentalists oppose drilling? I'm telling you, if we continue going down this path, we're all going to wake up one day and realize we have lost our country. I won't be here to see it, but some of you just might...and maybe then you will see what apathy and blindly following these socialistic idiots has done to the USA.

[olewave 44]

My point exactly. I have 4 daughters, ages 28, 27, 20 and 18. I think they qualify as young people, and I love them very much. I want them to be able look back and say, "I'm glad somebody finally woke up and stopped the madness back in 2010 instead of just turning a blind eye to the situation and letting that Obama guy run wild and dig us deeper and deeper into a hole we couldn't escape". I don't want them to say, "Why didn't my dad's generation see what was happening? Why didn't someone stop the madness? Why are we now at 30% unemployment? Why didn't they realize taxing businesses at an alarming rate caused those same businesses that were employing the middle class to go bankrupt? Why didn't they scream at the top of their lungs 'Wake up America!!! We're losing our country and allowing countries like China to rule the economic world' "? I want to leave a better country for my kids and my grandkids to live in. I don't want our great Nation to be at the mercy of countries like China...or eventually third world nations who have all the natural resources. We have all those resources at our disposal, so why not use them? Why do some of these over the top environmentalists oppose drilling? I'm telling you, if we continue going down this path, we're all going to wake up one day and realize we have lost our country. I won't be here to see it, but some of you just might...and maybe then you will see what apathy and blindly following these socialistic idiots has done to the USA.

The sad thing is they (the young) are going to try to blame someone else for the Obama tenure. Just like the Obama administration blames Bush. The young people want to be heard, but want no part of something that goes wrong. Taking a hand out is far more easy than getting your butt out of bed and going to work.

[blueinbama 259]

The sad thing is they (the young) are going to try to blame someone else for the Obama tenure. Just like the Obama administration blames Bush. The young people want to be heard, but want no part of something that goes wrong. Taking a hand out is far more easy than getting your butt out of bed and going to work.

 

Good point, and I'll say that's true for some, but not for all. I know and employ two fine young people who come to work on time every day and do a great job. They are 26 and 27 years old. I also know many others who are friends of my daughters that are hard working young people. My daughters also work or go to school and have never been lazy. That is a character issue that falls on the parents, in my opinion. But you're correct Olewave, there is a segment of the population, young and old, that always has the mindset that the world owes them a living and a handout. I have an answer that would put a dent in this lifestyle: Require drug testing for anyone receiving any type of government assistance. I would venture to say a large percentage of people on welfare in this country are also on drugs...illegal drugs. Fail the drug test, lose your benefits. That would save this country millions of dollars. Then maybe some of those same people would find they actually have to work for a living.

[NewHampshireRed 94]

I agree with you Bama on something and no reply lol? I believe I am going to have to argue the differ for you to reply me :rolleyes: jk lol

[blueinbama 259]

I agree with you Bama on something and no reply lol? I believe I am going to have to argue the differ for you to reply me :rolleyes: jk lol

 

I'm not trying to be a smart a**, but I don't understand.

[NewHampshireRed 94]

I'm not singing no tune in any direction. I am looking at it from a young person's eyes, as you are looking at it from the Boomers generation. No different tune, I agree with you. The only difference is I am looking at it from the young lady who is like so many young adults in America. I just didn't think the e-mail did a very good job at explaining why his retirement or why his business is loosing so much money. But other than that I agree.

 

The e-mail to me shows how the "Generation X" of society is mostly a money sucking, lazy, non independent group of individuals as we all know most are. But like I said, it depends on what generation you grew up in for how you will interpret this email.

 

I understand your not being an arse, but I am not either. Just pointing out that I agree with the email you posted, its just I see it from another generation than you do. To me the email points out more on the side of how this young lady is a slacker expecting her grandfather to take up her slack more than it explains why he is in the predicament that he is in (but I know from general knowledge of our economy why he is) but that is just my opinion. But still agree with the email in a young person's view.

Edited March 16, 2010 by mapper

[techfan 43]

Are you serious? Here's just a taste.

 

"In the midst of a recession that has taken a heavy toll on many nest eggs, just over half of all working adults ages 50 to 64 say they may delay their retirement -- and another 16% say they never expect to stop working, according to a national survey by the Pew Research Center's Social & Demographic Trends Project".

 

 

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1234/the-threshold-generation

 

(CBS) "The effects of the current economic crisis have touched everyone. Even if you still have a good job and a paid up mortgage, chances are your monthly 401(k) statement will remind you that you've lost a good chunk of your savings".

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/17/60minutes/main4951968.shtml

 

Should I continue?

 

No are you serious? Everyone that I know who lost money from their retirements lost that money when Bush was in the White House. I for one know that my 401(K) statement has rebounded some (though not as much as I would like) from the bottom I hit prior to Barack being elected. With regard to the first statement you quoted there are many factors causing people to keep working one being our life expectancy has gone up and people just arent retireing at the ages in which they used to. The economic recession is a major factor I will agree with but its a product of years of over spending dating all the way back to Reagan we have over spent as a country. I can't say that I agree with all of Barack's policies but to say that they are the cause of this recession/depression is similiar to saying the person who threw a log into a house fire started the fire its years of bad decisions/spending from Democrats and Republicans alike that put us in this position

[sandman 13]

Its rather obvious from the replies...they younger adults just don't get it...

 

 

 

 

I want to comment on the fact that up until August 2008 this nation, for the first time in our history, possessed entire generation of young adults that had never known a real "national recession" until the Autumn of 2008. People born after 1982-83, have no experience of double digit unemployment, gas lines, and hyper-inflation and as a result, they considered our economy immune to the old cycles of 1960's, 1970's and early 80's boom and bust economic cycles. I think that their life experience of never knowing deep, prolonged recession influenced their voting when then candidate Obama was promising a chicken in every pot.

 

Their generation along with mine (gen. X) are going to be singing a very different tune when asked to shoulder the Social Security and Medicare burden of 88 million aging Baby Boomers. A very different tune.

Edited March 16, 2010 by sandman

[blueinbama 259]

I want to comment on the fact that up until August 2008 this nation, for the first time in our history, possessed entire generation of young adults that had never known a real "national recession" until the Autumn of 2008. People born after 1982-83, have no experience of double digit unemployment, gas lines, and hyper-inflation and as a result, they considered our economy immune to the old cycles of 1960's, 1970's and early 80's boom and bust economic cycles. I think that their life experience of never knowing deep, prolonged recession influenced their voting when then candidate Obama was promising a chicken in every pot.

 

Their generation along with mine (gen. X) are going to be singing a very different tune when asked to shoulder the Social Security and Medicare burden of 88 million aging Baby Boomers. A very different tune.

 

Good post. The thing is, we all want virtually the same things for our country, with some very basic differences on some issues such as abortion, prayer in schools, etc. That will never change. But we all want a flourishing economy, and we all want to strive for world peace...at least I think we all do. We all want to eliminate the national debt and deficit. We all want to be independent of any foreign assistance. We all want to eliminate hunger and poverty in the US. But you can't do that by hurting the very people who supply jobs in this country, the small businessmen and entrepreneurs who provide jobs for many of us...the working class, by taxing them to death. You can't do that by depending on foreign oil, and foreign loans. You can't do that by keeping a record number of people on welfare. You can't do that by telling people it's ok to live on welfare, get food stamps, and let the rest of the working people in the country support you when you make no effort at all. The mindset of this country has to change. Nobody should get a free ride. If you are disabled and can't work, we will take care of you. But if you are able to work, get a job and contribute something.

Edited March 16, 2010 by blueinbama

[swva_fan 94]

Are you serious? Here's just a taste.

 

"In the midst of a recession that has taken a heavy toll on many nest eggs, just over half of all working adults ages 50 to 64 say they may delay their retirement -- and another 16% say they never expect to stop working, according to a national survey by the Pew Research Center's Social & Demographic Trends Project".

 

 

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1234/the-threshold-generation

 

(CBS) "The effects of the current economic crisis have touched everyone. Even if you still have a good job and a paid up mortgage, chances are your monthly 401(k) statement will remind you that you've lost a good chunk of your savings".

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/17/60minutes/main4951968.shtml

 

Should I continue?

 

guess not since you did not answer the question

[blueinbama 259]

guess not since you did not answer the question

 

I'm sorry...I thought you would be able to read the above links and understand why many of us in the business world have lost thousands of dollars since obama took office.

 

http://www.standardandpoors.com/indices/sp-500/en/us/?indexId=spusa-500-usduf--p-us-l--

 

From June of 2008 until May of 2009, the S & P index plumetted from 1200 to just above 600. That of course doesn't tell the whole story, but during that period many people lost jobs and money invested. The stock market almost crashed. Or did you conveniently for get that period of time? S & P has rebounded to reflect your figures, but when you've already lost your investment it really doesn't matter how much recovery has taken place since that time. That's when many of us lost our money. I hope that helps clear it up for you.

[Deleted Account 5,203]

First off I'm not a Obama supporter, but how have you lost thousands in your retirement fund under Obama? The S&P 500 have gained like 40% since he took office.

 

Where to start off with this gem, which is incorrect on so many different levels?

 

First, as you don't know the makeup of Blue's retirement portfolio, you can't make any educated guess whatsoever on how, or IF, it is affected by the S&P 500. If Blue is a responsible investor, and I bet he is, then his portfolio is widely diverse. If may include stocks of one of those 500 companies, but again, it may very well not. Only a freaking moron would put their entire portfolio on the stock market. I have little experience with stocks, and I know this. Until you can substantiate this, and you'll never be able to, you need to quit making invalid inferences.

 

Second, while the S&P 500 has gained 40%, this is at best misleading. If you paid attention in early 2009, THE BOTTOM FELL OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET. There was no place to go but up! The market is STILL below 2004 levels, BTW.

http://www.tradersnarrative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/S&P%20500%20index%20comparison%20to%20cboe%20put%20call%20ratio%20Jan%202010.png

 

Third, looking at the S&P to gauge how the economy is doing makes me LOL. Because stocks, being speculative, are NOT a sound indicator of how the market is doing in general. Look at the employment rate. Look at the hiring freezes in the public sector. Look how the market is flooded with college graduates that are clawing to find a job. Then tell me about how "the S&P 500 is up 40% since Obama's been in office."

 

I weep for America's future, if this is the line of thinking of America's youth.