I know many of the refs in the SWVA area, and most are not bad.....I feel as they get the short end of the stick because most of them dont suck up and kiss butt to get games like some of the others do. Their is one certain ref that I know lives in the Tri Cities area that has a game at least 3 to 4 games a week and he is no better than any in this area, but who am I? It takes alot to go out and ref basketball games and I'm not stupid enough to go out and get screamed at all night long!!