GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 This is how it should be done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 This is how it should be done... Saw it, loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Boogity Boogity Boogity AMEN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto 10 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Not a fan of this, there are already so many people that degrade religion as a horse and pony show, and in my honest opinion things like this do nothing to detract from their ability to point ignorance out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 This preacher had the prayer in the language of his audience. Sadly, Ditto is right as a preacher of the word, the minister chose to make the prayer a commercial and not a blessing for the drivers and a message for the fans. Although many of the drivers do need to get on their knees and thank the Lord for all of their blessings, including the "smoking hot wives." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Not a fan of that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverbaseball 10 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Not a fan of this, there are already so many people that degrade religion as a horse and pony show, and in my honest opinion things like this do nothing to detract from their ability to point ignorance out. Agreed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 this was obviously a nod towards Ricky Bobby...and someone actually came up with something original vs. the same old stuff you hear every week of life. I think it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 this was obviously a nod towards Ricky Bobby...and someone actually came up with something original vs. the same old stuff you hear every week of life. I think it's great. I would imagine my Heavenly Father laughed out loud (and yes, I'm a Christian). I'm convinced God has a sense of humor, and he gave me mine. I despise stuffed shirt religion. I think more people need to lighten up like this pastor did. I would love to go to this guy's church. I absolutely loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Oh nascar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Oh nascar... Hahaha, my thoughts exactly. I enjoy it, but no other sport draws such unique attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I would imagine my Heavenly Father laughed out loud (and yes, I'm a Christian). I'm convinced God has a sense of humor, and he gave me mine. I despise stuffed shirt religion. I think more people need to lighten up like this pastor did. I would love to go to this guy's church. I absolutely loved it. I'm in total agreement! Told my wife, if this guy was a preacher around here, I'd be in his church every Sunday. We should all thank God for everything He has blessed us with...including "smokin' hot" wives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Not a fan of this, there are already so many people that degrade religion as a horse and pony show, and in my honest opinion things like this do nothing to detract from their ability to point ignorance out. Post of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Post of the week. I read it so fast the first time I missed it...lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue72+1 10 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I think its great that they have prayer, and sometimes even Ministers get caught up in the moment. Being a Pastor myself, I can see how easy it would be to be in his shoes, so my hats off to him. Great job showing the world that being a christian is not always stiff necked. God Bless Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 More proof that NASCAR is no different and no less scripted than Pro Wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 More proof that NASCAR is no different and no less scripted than Pro Wrestling. You couldn't be more wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 More proof that NASCAR is no different and no less scripted than Pro Wrestling. Do you really believe that? If that were the case the most popular driver in NASCAR, Dale Earnhart Jr. would be winning races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Do you really believe that? If that were the case the most popular driver in NASCAR, Dale Earnhart Jr. would be winning races. Not really, he obviously can carry the fanbase without winning. Dont think that the nice guy who cant seem to win isnt an intriguing storyline? This is the same guy who was destroying the Busch Series back in the day. Plus, the difference between pro wrestling and nascar is sponsorships. NASCAR is a contradiction. It does not consist of stock cars, in fact nothing about the cars are stock, even the sillouettes. They dont really race unless they are on a road course and they dont race in the rain. Aside from drag "racing" there really isnt a precedent for that. Formula, GT, Lemans, Protos, Kart, NASA, American Iron, ect... all race in almost any conditions. A lot of the personalities of the drivers are scripted as well. Got a buddy who traveled around with Casey Mears back when he drove for the National Guard. He was part of the troop liason group that took vets behind the scenes of NASCAR. He told me that many drivers are assigned an attitude to have. Denny Hamlin is an "awe shucks" guy in NASCAR but anyone who grew up with him or spent any time around the track with him will tell you hes a punk. Juan Montoya blew me off when I was in uniform at RIR around a bunch of media types when I asked for his autograph. A year before my brother was working part-time at a nice hotel where a lot of the drivers stay in Richmond, he took room service to Montoya and asked for his autograph for me, told him I was in the service and Juan Pablo asked him all sorts of questions about my brother being a marine and me being a soldier...real nice about it. Reconcile those facts. I am not saying the whole thing is theatre, but a lot of it is and its all about viewers and sponsors and $$$. This is not the NASCAR we all grew up around. Edited July 27, 2011 by The Variable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You couldn't be more wrong... Not really. NASCAR has gone to extreme lengths to manufacture competition, thereby taking it out of the driver's hands. Look at Daytona: there's a different leader pretty much every lap, and that's how NASCAR wants it. The point system's been changed and changed again to prevent drivers from running away with the championship (read: MUST BOOST RATINGS). It's not pro wrestling, but it sure isn't quality racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Not really, he obviously can carry the fanbase without winning. Dont think that the nice guy who cant seem to win isnt an intriguing storyline? This is the same guy who was destroying the Busch Series back in the day. Plus, the difference between pro wrestling and nascar is sponsorships. NASCAR is a contradiction. It does not consist of stock cars, in fact nothing about the cars are stock, even the sillouettes. They dont really race unless they are on a road course and they dont race in the rain. Aside from drag "racing" there really isnt a precedent for that. Formula, GT, Lemans, Protos, Kart, NASA, American Iron, ect... all race in almost any conditions. A lot of the personalities of the drivers are scripted as well. Got a buddy who traveled around with Casey Mears back when he drove for the National Guard. He was part of the troop liason group that took vets behind the scenes of NASCAR. He told me that many drivers are assigned an attitude to have. Denny Hamlin is an "awe shucks" guy in NASCAR but anyone who grew up with him or spent any time around the track with him will tell you hes a punk. Juan Montoya blew me off when I was in uniform at RIR around a bunch of media types when I asked for his autograph. A year before my brother was working part-time at a nice hotel where a lot of the drivers stay in Richmond, he took room service to Montoya and asked for his autograph for me, told him I was in the service and Juan Pablo asked him all sorts of questions about my brother being a marine and me being a soldier...real nice about it. Reconcile those facts. I am not saying the whole thing is theatre, but a lot of it is and its all about viewers and sponsors and $$$. This is not the NASCAR we all grew up around. Not really. NASCAR has gone to extreme lengths to manufacture competition, thereby taking it out of the driver's hands. Look at Daytona: there's a different leader pretty much every lap, and that's how NASCAR wants it. The point system's been changed and changed again to prevent drivers from running away with the championship (read: MUST BOOST RATINGS). It's not pro wrestling, but it sure isn't quality racing. Just to give you my perspective and let you know my vantage point, I have been watching (or listening) to NASCAR since the very early 1960's. My favorite driver back then was Fireball Roberts. I also liked Richard Petty and after Fireball Roberts was killed Petty became my favorite driver. Then, when the Allisons came onto the scene, being from Alabama I was a huge fan of Bobby and Donnie, and later Davey, as well as Niel Bonnett. They were Hueytown boys, and lived less than 10 miles from my parents house and just down the road from my cousins house. Those were the good ol' days for me as a young NASCAR fan. Of course the sport has changed. So has almost every sport on the planet. I guess we could to go back to the days of racing convertibles or racing cars that are truly stock, and that would be more like the NASCAR we all grew up around? Well one thing's for sure, we would see a lot of fresh faces because most of the drivers we know now would be dead. NASCAR has changed a lot because the cars have changed, and changed for the better. The silhouettes are practical. If you had headlights and door handles on the cars, along with stock bumpers, etc. every race would take 9 hours to finish because of the caution flags being thrown due to debris on the track. The safety aspect of the cars racing today is incredible. We all know there would be monumental casualties in every race if we went back to the old days of NASCAR. As far as the personalities of the drivers, I don't really give a rats ass who is a jerk and who is a good guy. That aspect of NASCAR might be akin to pro wrestling if what Variable says is true, but it hasn't made any difference in the way I view the sport. Commercialism is exploited in every sport. It's the world we live in. But NASCAR doesn't fix races to determine winners like pro wrestling does. That was the original point I was making. I will agree that the restrictor plate racing is boring. It also causes "the big one" in every restrictor plate race. That needs to be fixed. The drivers can't get out of each others way. But if you have ever been to Bristol or some of the other short track races, or even to some of the larger tracks that don't require a restrictor plate, racing can still be exciting and very entertaining. The fact that the points system has been evolving over the years doesn't affect the enjoyment I get out of watching a race. The fact that they don't race in the rain doesn't detract from the sport for me at all. I have never enjoyed watching Formula racing, but especially when it's raining. So that's my 2 cents. I still love my NASCAR, even though it has its flaws. But doesn't every sport have its flaws? Edited July 27, 2011 by blueinbama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 More proof that NASCAR is no different and no less scripted than Pro Wrestling. I disagree... Nascar can't control what comes out of a preacher's mouth....Personally, I see nothing wrong with it. I do believe that God has a sense of humor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Variable Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Hey Bama, I hear ya...and its too bad about Bonnet and Davey. But you know what? It seems more of the drivers die in planes than on the track. GT and Lemans series have cars that look almost exactly like the cars they race, with working doors and lights and they have no issues with the drivers dying. Those cars are also faster. I used to be a big fan of NASCAR. Mark Martin was my driver, but then I caught F1 on speed vision one day, and I stopped watching NASCAR altogether. F1 got me into Lemans and got me starting to get into racing myself. Me and a buddy used to go to danville and race his miata at VIR. I started racing my Gixxer there too. I got into the sport of racing and the more I got into that, the less interesting NASCAR became. It may be just the atmosphere that they create that makes it feel fake and the cars that dont look like the car you buy at the dealership (why are they using 4-door sedans in NASCAR now?). Nothing about it feels genuine anymore. And looking back at the old races before the late 90s, it still looks genuine at that time. Youre right, every sport has its flaws, but I think that NASCAR may have gotten far beyond its roots by acting like it still wants to connect to them. Im being a bit of a curmudgeon about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Just to give you my perspective and let you know my vantage point, I have been watching (or listening) to NASCAR since the very early 1960's. My favorite driver back then was Fireball Roberts. I also liked Richard Petty and after Fireball Roberts was killed Petty became my favorite driver. Then, when the Allisons came onto the scene, being from Alabama I was a huge fan of Bobby and Donnie, and later Davey, as well as Niel Bonnett. They were Hueytown boys, and lived less than 10 miles from my parents house and just down the road from my cousins house. Those were the good ol' days for me as a young NASCAR fan. Of course the sport has changed. So has almost every sport on the planet. I guess we could to go back to the days of racing convertibles or racing cars that are truly stock, and that would be more like the NASCAR we all grew up around? Well one thing's for sure, we would see a lot of fresh faces because most of the drivers we know now would be dead. NASCAR has changed a lot because the cars have changed, and changed for the better. The silhouettes are practical. If you had headlights and door handles on the cars, along with stock bumpers, etc. every race would take 9 hours to finish because of the caution flags being thrown due to debris on the track. The safety aspect of the cars racing today is incredible. We all know there would be monumental casualties in every race if we went back to the old days of NASCAR. As far as the personalities of the drivers, I don't really give a rats ass who is a jerk and who is a good guy. That aspect of NASCAR might be akin to pro wrestling if what Variable says is true, but it hasn't made any difference in the way I view the sport. Commercialism is exploited in every sport. It's the world we live in. But NASCAR doesn't fix races to determine winners like pro wrestling does. That was the original point I was making. I will agree that the restrictor plate racing is boring. It also causes "the big one" in every restrictor plate race. That needs to be fixed. The drivers can't get out of each others way. But if you have ever been to Bristol or some of the other short track races, or even to some of the larger tracks that don't require a restrictor plate, racing can still be exciting and very entertaining. The fact that the points system has been evolving over the years doesn't affect the enjoyment I get out of watching a race. The fact that they don't race in the rain doesn't detract from the sport for me at all. I have never enjoyed watching Formula racing, but especially when it's raining. So that's my 2 cents. I still love my NASCAR, even though it has its flaws. But doesn't every sport have its flaws? I appreciate your perspective, and it makes me nostalgic to hear names like the Allisons, Fireball Roberts, and Lee Petty. I'm not frustrated that the sport has changed; they all do. I'm frustrated as to HOW it's changed more than anything. I despise restrictor plates: if the goal of racing is to make the car go as fast as possible in as little time as possible, why do something that directly works against that goal? There's no indication that NASCAR has been safer with the restrictor plates; in fact, more deaths have occurred in the 20 years since since the restrictor plates have been installed at Daytona/Talladega than in the 40 years before that. The old Winston Cup points system was not broke; it did not need fixing. If a driver dominated to the extent that the championship was decided 3 weeks before the end of the season, so be it. Now, only the last 10 races truly matter, so as a sports fan with little rooting interest, I must ask myself: "why even watch until then?" That's entirely a ratings thing, and it's going to lead to Jimmie Johnson winning 10 straight championships because the last 10 tracks are ones Johnson dominates. Every sport has flaws, yes, but NASCARs are self-induced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I appreciate your perspective, and it makes me nostalgic to hear names like the Allisons, Fireball Roberts, and Lee Petty. I'm not frustrated that the sport has changed; they all do. I'm frustrated as to HOW it's changed more than anything. I despise restrictor plates: if the goal of racing is to make the car go as fast as possible in as little time as possible, why do something that directly works against that goal? There's no indication that NASCAR has been safer with the restrictor plates; in fact, more deaths have occurred in the 20 years since since the restrictor plates have been installed at Daytona/Talladega than in the 40 years before that. The old Winston Cup points system was not broke; it did not need fixing. If a driver dominated to the extent that the championship was decided 3 weeks before the end of the season, so be it. Now, only the last 10 races truly matter, so as a sports fan with little rooting interest, I must ask myself: "why even watch until then?" That's entirely a ratings thing, and it's going to lead to Jimmie Johnson winning 10 straight championships because the last 10 tracks are ones Johnson dominates. Every sport has flaws, yes, but NASCARs are self-induced. Agreed 1000%. Plus concrete Bristol back to the way it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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