VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 although quit a few are VERY questionable, the VHSL has released the Sept. 30 ADM's from the state Dept. of Ed., in size order. "Highlights"... Marion missed being A eligible by 3 kids, Richlands missed by 20. Cave Spring IS A eligible by 13 kids. Lee is now 13 kids too big for A. Castlewood is down, despite the addition of the St. Paul kids http://www.vhsl.org/files/rr-Sept30-2011-membership_-actual-numbers.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ehh...I think some schools forgot to count entire grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueAlum 12 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ehh...I think some schools forgot to count entire grades. I was thinking the same thing. According to these numbers, Cave Spring lost over 150 kids in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battleftbl 42 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 That'd also put Goochland into the AA bracket.......instead of playing in the Division 2 playoffs. Odd numbers for a few schools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCFan 10 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Goochland's bounced between A and AA for about the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 679 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I was thinking the same thing. According to these numbers, Cave Spring lost over 150 kids in the last year. Odd as it seems, that's actually possible. There is generally a lot of flux in terms of kids passing between the public school systems in the Roanoke Valley (Roanoke County, Roanoke City, and Salem), and the private schools are also aggressively recruiting students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Castlewood probably lost kids due to the power plant laying people off...i know of a couple of people who were working there and got laid off? It's not even open yet? Not sure what that is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Given that these numbers are the official DOE numbers, and that no administraton in its right mind would undercount its enrollment, I put more stock in them than most. Funding is allocated based mostly on these numbers, more students = more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counts 156 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Given that these numbers are the official DOE numbers, and that no administraton in its right mind would undercount its enrollment, I put more stock in them than most. Funding is allocated based mostly on these numbers, more students = more money. Being that they are DOE numbers they should be spot on however it COULD be that some schools may house 9th graders in a middle school while at others 8th and 9th graders could be at the High School That being said if correct Honaker lost a ton of kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Given that these numbers are the official DOE numbers, and that no administraton in its right mind would undercount its enrollment, I put more stock in them than most. Funding is allocated based mostly on these numbers, more students = more money. Perhaps. I found divisions breakdown from last year for football which has some enrollment figures. I understand they aren't the official DOE numbers but just for comparison of how different these numbers are from the DOE release... Some do make a lot of sense.. others, well..not so much. DOE-School-The numbers recently used for divisions 893-Abingdon-925 728-Richlands-736 721-Lee-712 711-Marion-715 695-Cave Spring-820 684-Gate City-708 677-Virginia-651 625-Floyd County-636 611-Tazewell-663 599-John Battle-607 590-Grayson Co 543-Graham-531 515-Grundy-481 482-Alleghany-850 449-Chilhowie-445 448-Radford-455 447-Fort Chiswell-496 439-George Wythe-435 437-Glenvar-600 409-Patrick Henry-416 395-Giles-519 382-Lebanon-553 381-Galax-387 373-Auburn-387 348-Rural Retreat-360 300-Holston-320 287-Clintwood-304 285-JI Burton-262 282-Honaker-390 261-Northwood-267 250-Haysi-285 248-Castlewood-265 237-Twin Springs-225 229-Twin Valley-225 216-Rye Cove-225 177-Hurley-183 126-Ervinton-158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Being that they are DOE numbers they should be spot on however it COULD be that some schools may house 9th graders in a middle school while at others 8th and 9th graders could be at the High School That being said if correct Honaker lost a ton of kids That's true, as well. However, given that some schools have seen significant changes, wouldn't we have heard something if schools changed attendance policies in that significant a fashion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,745 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Castlewood probably lost kids due to the power plant laying people off...i know of a couple of people who were working there and got laid off? It's not even open yet? Not sure what that is all about. At this point the Power Plant is being wrapped up, alot of the crews that follow Shaw are moving to the next job and alot of the local labor that was hired is being laid off because theres not alot of work left. Foremen and more skilled positions are about all thats left working. Atleast that is my understanding. Edited November 30, 2011 by redtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvacsas2 15 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Was told some time ago that few of the power plant workers brought families with them. Something is wrong with all the Russell County numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,745 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Most didnt and the ones that did leaving wouldnt account for that dramatic of an enrollment drop. Maybe its just a mass exodus from Russell Co? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Most didnt and the ones that did leaving wouldnt account for that dramatic of an enrollment drop. Maybe its just a mass exodus from Russell Co? The Leer plant or whatever closed and the other place beside it that was doing the wheels closed as well...so between that and the power plant, could account for some of it for sure I would think. I know my friend moved to NC...he had 3 kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublue 939 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 According to a poster on VA Preps..."The VHSL is saying the DOE provided them with inaccurate numbers and the realignment proposal will be released once the new figures are received." Helper may have more on this if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Leer plant or whatever closed and the other place beside it that was doing the wheels closed as well...so between that and the power plant, could account for some of it for sure I would think. I know my friend moved to NC...he had 3 kids. The Lear plant hurt. Badly. My aunt lost a 15+ year job when they moved north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Odd as it seems, that's actually possible. There is generally a lot of flux in terms of kids passing between the public school systems in the Roanoke Valley (Roanoke County, Roanoke City, and Salem), and the private schools are also aggressively recruiting students. Well, then, wouldn't you see an increase in enrollment somewhere??? There isn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvacsas2 15 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Most of the Russell County layoffs would principally involve the Lebanon area and the Lear closure should have been reflected in last years enrollment figures. It is impossible for Castlewood to show a loss no matter how you cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Most of the Russell County layoffs would principally involve the Lebanon area and the Lear closure should have been reflected in last years enrollment figures. It is impossible for Castlewood to show a loss no matter how you cut it. my friend was laid off from Lear went to the power plant, laid off there not long ago and moved to NC...he lived in Castlewood...kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISOaPBR 15 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 According to a poster on VA Preps..."The VHSL is saying the DOE provided them with inaccurate numbers and the realignment proposal will be released once the new figures are received." Helper may have more on this if true. Here's what was sent out... "The DOE has advised [VHSL] office the September 30, 2011 Membership Figures provided earlier to the R&R Committee are incorrect. We will post the correct September 30, 2011 Membership Figures as soon as possible. In addition, the revised Initial Alignment Plan Redistricting and Reclassification Plan for 2013-14 and 2014-15 will be reposted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,745 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 my friend was laid off from Lear went to the power plant, laid off there not long ago and moved to NC...he lived in Castlewood...kinda sad. Its a bad deal. A friend of mine and her husband are in a tight spot too. He is a foreman w/ Shaw and they are deciding if they should move so he can keep his job or should they go in a different direction. They knew the job wouldnt last but its still hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 679 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well, then, wouldn't you see an increase in enrollment somewhere??? There isn't... Not if they are going to private schools and/or moving out of the area. Hard to believe that either would add up to 150 at Cave Spring alone, however. Erroneous estimate from the DOE makes the most sense. In terms of population projections, I know that Weldon Cooper tends to short the western portion of Virginia. Maybe the education folks are using the same formula and their methodology is equally flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm lockin' this puppy down, then deleting it Friday. We'll try this again before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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