thegamer 10 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 easy win for the beavers..no starters for blfd played in 4th qtr..not a single second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 easy win for the beavers..no starters for blfd played in 4th qtr..not a single second WOW! Good job Beavers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did anyone really expect anything, but a blowout tonight? The gap between basketball in Southern WV and Southwestern Virginia has been and still is wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frito gonzales 103 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Graham couldn't handle the press and just didn't shoot well. How many free throws did the G-Men miss tonight? It seemed like only Colby Hill was the only one that could make a free throw. Bluefield just looked to be on a whole other level than the G-Men tonight. Congrats to the Beavers. They have a ton of talent and will be very hard for anyone to handle this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did anyone really expect anything, but a blowout tonight? The gap between basketball in Southern WV and Southwestern Virginia has been and still is wide. This, sadly. Graham's a good team...for VA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHS89 77 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I don't think you can throw the blanket on all of Southern WV and Southwest Virginia. I think the gap exists between Bluefield and everybody else. The Beavers are very good, and should be for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Graham couldn't handle the press and just didn't shoot well. How many free throws did the G-Men miss tonight? It seemed like only Colby Hill was the only one that could make a free throw. Bluefield just looked to be on a whole other level than the G-Men tonight. Congrats to the Beavers. They have a ton of talent and will be very hard for anyone to handle this year. My thoughts exactly.... The Press did Graham in, big time. They couldn't hit a free throw to save their lives....they would've lost by 30 instead of 43(like it would've mattered), if free throws were made... Graham was outmanned and outcoached last night. Edited December 15, 2012 by futbolking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 This, sadly. Graham's a good team...for VA... Graham's an average team this year..... for our little portion of VA..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Bluefield will beat Galax by 50+ next Friday night...unless Bluefield wants to only win by 40... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 The biggest shock of the night was watching Anthony Eades miss 3 free throws. He might not miss 3 the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I was sitting near Eades dad and you could see Mike grimacing when Anthony missed those free throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Graham's an average team this year..... for our little portion of VA..... My opinion of Graham is higher than that, and my opinion of VA is much lower. VA basketball, Oak Hill aside, has been historically very weak, aside from a few individual superstars. And that's especially true this year. It remains to be seen whose take is closer to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_______________ 10 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just because one team from WV beats one team from VA means there is some huge gap? And if we're talking about VA as a whole I imagine it's not that weak. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHS03 99 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just because one team from WV beats one team from VA means there is some huge gap? And if we're talking about VA as a whole I imagine it's not that weak. Am I missing something? A username. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Am I missing something? A clue as to just how bad basketball is in VA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oo- 146 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 A username. Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_______________ 10 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Didn't IC Norcom in Hampton beat Findlay Prep a couple of years ago? But you guys know more than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 A clue as to just how bad basketball is in VA... THIS. As I said before, outside Oak Hill, Virginia basketball is a colossal joke. Even in AAA. You put a Top 10 team in VA against a team like DeMatha, and DeMatha would roll them with a smile on their faces. You might have one upset a decade. See: Norcom over Findlay. But that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 THIS. As I said before, outside Oak Hill, Virginia basketball is a colossal joke. Even in AAA. You put a Top 10 team in VA against a team like DeMatha, and DeMatha would roll them with a smile on their faces. You might have one upset a decade. See: Norcom over Findlay. But that's it. Problem with prep hoops is that it's hard to compare apples to apples. The top private schools (like DeMatha) are powerful on a national level. There aren't many public schools outside of the largest metropolitan areas who should even consider competing against schools of that type. I took the gist of this thread to mean that the public schools in Southern West Virginia are far superior to those in Southwest Virginia. And I don't think there's any basis for debate there. The WV teams are definitely better. Maybe there's room for discussion about the very best public schools drawn from the entire Commonwealth as opposed to those from the Mountain State. Bottom line.... I'm going to confess that I'm terribly confused about what is meant by "Virginia basketball." Are we talking exclusively about public schools? And if the subject is private schools, are we excluding post-grad squads? Mainly curious here. Clarifications of any kind will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 My opinion of Graham is higher than that, and my opinion of VA is much lower. VA basketball, Oak Hill aside, has been historically very weak, aside from a few individual superstars. And that's especially true this year. It remains to be seen whose take is closer to form. I think you'll see Graham finishing with maybe a record slightly better than .500... I expect Floyd County to destroy them on the 27th, although I'd like to see them have a good showing. Hopefully I'm wrong and you're right, but after seeing them play a couple times, I believe them to be slow and unable to handle the press. Inside game is average at best. Upside is that they have some quality young players coming up. I have the same opinion of VA basketball, however...not impressed overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules 46 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Problem with prep hoops is that it's hard to compare apples to apples. The top private schools (like DeMatha) are powerful on a national level. There aren't many public schools outside of the largest metropolitan areas who should even consider competing against schools of that type. I took the gist of this thread to mean that the public schools in Southern West Virginia are far superior to those in Southwest Virginia. And I don't think there's any basis for debate there. The WV teams are definitely better. Maybe there's room for discussion about the very best public schools drawn from the entire Commonwealth as opposed to those from the Mountain State. Bottom line.... I'm going to confess that I'm terribly confused about what is meant by "Virginia basketball." Are we talking exclusively about public schools? And if the subject is private schools, are we excluding post-grad squads? Mainly curious here. Clarifications of any kind will be appreciated. My comments were merely about the difference in the quality of Southern WV teams and those in Southwestern Virginia. There are and have been good teams/programs from the NRV and eastward through Virginia on the hardwood including Martinsville, Radford, Hidden Valley, Cave Spring, etc. However, high school basketball in Virginia does not exist westward past Blacksburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think you'll see Graham finishing with maybe a record slightly better than .500... I expect Floyd County to destroy them on the 27th, although I'd like to see them have a good showing. Hopefully I'm wrong and you're right, but after seeing them play a couple times, I believe them to be slow and unable to handle the press. Inside game is average at best. Upside is that they have some quality young players coming up. I have the same opinion of VA basketball, however...not impressed overall. Graham actually isn't bad for a Single-A team. They are a pretty quick team with decent fundamentals and will go as Colby Hill and Tony Hood go. Bluefield will make just about any team "slow" and Graham won't see that kind of overall ball pressure by any team on their schedule (aside from Round 2 with Bluefield) for the rest of the season. Absolute worst case, Graham loses 7 or 8 games. Outside of Bluefield and Floyd, they should be able to beat Bland and Grayson. They should win their district. They won't advance any further though, but in their defense, neither will any other team in SWVA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 My comments were merely about the difference in the quality of Southern WV teams and those in Southwestern Virginia. There are and have been good teams/programs from the NRV and eastward through Virginia on the hardwood including Martinsville, Radford, Hidden Valley, Cave Spring, etc. However, high school basketball in Virginia does not exist westward past Blacksburg. This. Not to mention that Southern WV has been always been King when it comes to basketball in the state of West Virginia. Bluefield, Woodrow Wilson, Wyoming East (Mullens), Westside (Oceana), Tug Valley, Logan. That is basically West Virginia Basketball History right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) My comments were merely about the difference in the quality of Southern WV teams and those in Southwestern Virginia. There are and have been good teams/programs from the NRV and eastward through Virginia on the hardwood including Martinsville, Radford, Hidden Valley, Cave Spring, etc. However, high school basketball in Virginia does not exist westward past Blacksburg. Thanks, BR. And I agree with your assessment. Alas, Richlands is a good example for this argument. Back in the day (mid '80s), the Blues fielded some really good teams that just couldn't get over the hump beyond district play. And while I stand to be corrected, I don't think Richlands ever won a regional playoff game before the format was expanded to include the present number of teams. My confusion (over which I claim full ownership) was the result of the introduction of DeMatha into the conversation. Edited December 20, 2012 by RichlandsAlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This. Not to mention that Southern WV has been always been King when it comes to basketball in the state of West Virginia. Bluefield, Woodrow Wilson, Wyoming East (Mullens), Westside (Oceana), Tug Valley, Logan. That is basically West Virginia Basketball History right there. I still remember the incredible run by now-defunct Northfork. Even the "also ran" programs in Southern WV have produced a tremendous roster of athletes who have done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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