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What told me a lot about JM's AD was that he QUIT, cowarded down against the Big Red from Riverheads in football this year. He knew what was coming with that game as they would have got the beat down similar to the way they put the beat down on opponents in hoops. JM wanted absolutely zero part of that match up.

I thought JM wasn't going to the Big Shots Showcase. What's interesting though, if the two teams do play in a couple of weeks and then met in the state title game again, I would bet this would be the first time in the history of Virgina in any big 3 sport (basketball, football, baseball) that in Class 1, 2, or 3, that a Region A team and a Region D played in the regular season and then turned around and played a 2nd team in that season for a state title. I would be totally shocked if that has ever happened.

I agree Duke, but the problem is, it's a different team playing them each year and each team has the thought of, 'this is our chance, win or lose, we made it to the title game and are runners up." If you had a situation like at Radford where Radfords players and coaches would have stayed/not retired and Radford loses 2 or 3 state titles in a row to JM and gets blown out, then by the 3rd or 4th go around, they say enough is enough and don't show up. But as long as we keep rotating teams, for example Radford or East Rock or Gate City or possibly Graham or Floyd this year, it will never end. You need one elite powerhouse from the West that is nearly a sure bet each year to play JM so they can lose and get tired of it, but the days of Gate City, Martinsville, and now Radford are about over.

I watched GC for first time last night. Graham's better by 6 to 7 points. The entire region is the worst for not just 2D, but also 2C that I've seen since the turn of the century, 23 years. Not only that, region 2B is turrrrrrible. Graham has had probably 8 or 9 teams, maybe more........that are better than this 2023 team since the year 2000, and this years Graham team has a very strong chance to play for a state title against the East, JM. The state of Virginia in Class 2 is that down this year. Worst I've ever seen in my lifetime or memory of HS basketball. This isn't hyperbole. I'm giving my opinion. The best 3 teams in the state are from 1 region. JM, Greensville County, and Bruton, and if Brunswick wouldn't have dropped from Class 2 down to class 1, it would be 4 teams as 1,2,3, and 4th best from one region (Region A). P.S Floyd is the best in 2C, and they are right there with Graham, but they don't alarm you with the eye test either.

Agree. It's Graham and Gate City and in my opinion, Lebanon, Union, Central, Battle all having a chance and maybe even Virginia High, but I would be surprised if it's not Graham and Gate City. From what a Graham fan told me in the Graham vs Bluefield game, Graham has no seniors that start. I didn't see the starting lineups and got there 2 minutes into the game, but that's what one of their fans said. If it's true, you might see Graham go back to back in region titles.

Sach, I may be wrong, but didn't Lebanon beat Union by 7 or 8 points? I could be wrong, but thought they did. Also, I think Honaker split beat Lebanon and Union and also lost to Lebanon and Union. Honakers most impressive game is a narrow loss to Carroll County and Carroll is darn good. These scores are Maxpreps though, so u know what that means. If the scores are correct, there's a decent argument for Honaker being in the top 3 in this poll and not 5th.

And that makes sense. Very few games so makes sense to me. I still haven't watched Gate City. I've seen Union and Lebanon and they are good, but I think Graham is 7-8 pts better. Gate City, I have no idea. I plan to watch them in the next week. I haven't seen Honaker either, but hear they are very good.

I would start by putting Graham 1st, then add the other 9, or maybe GC 1, then Graham 2, followed by the other 8.

Question on the Reese kid at Lebanon. Where is his father from? Did his father play on the 1992 Lebanon great teams in football and basketball? Thanks in advance

Yes, it's that big of a deal. GW with around 400 vs a small university in size, nearly 4,000 if I read correctly Dorman and Dorman won the South Carolina 5A state title last year and GW is Class 1 in Virginia. Dorman is also ranked number 1 in 5A in SC by Maxpreps and the 80th ranked overall school in the United States. What happened is something just completely unheard of. I know GW is good and is a frontrunner to win the Class 1 title, but this is completely absurd folks. Just absolute insanity that GW could pull this off. 1st Samuel 17, Verses 49-50 49 He reached into his bag. He took out a stone. He put it in his sling. He slung it at Goliath. The stone hit him on the forehead and sank into it. He fell to the ground on his face. 50 So David won the fight against Goliath with a sling and a stone. He struck the Philistine down and killed him. He did it without even using a sword.

Just watched this. Great game between two very fast and athletic teams.

Thank You, Jesus Christ.

White Horse, LOL. It will never die because Akers will one day return to Gate City as Holston will win Region D next year.

Any chance Akers would come back to Gate City as an assistant or possibly end up as an assistant at Richlands under the new Head Coach? "I'm already ducking and bracing for the blow."

Good point. My honest answer is.....Nope. Just watching that kid play, man what a freakin beast. The way that kid exploded off the ball with not just speed, but god awful upper body and leg strength was crazy impressive (in my opinion) for a Class 2 Defensive End.

Best wishes to Greer. Also, big sack move in my opinion coming home to Carroll County which sounds like for the reasons you pointed out a tough place to win. I hope he can get them going. Carroll needs to get those kids back from Cana and keep them at home instead of Mt. Airy because there's a lot of country hams in Cana, and they are probably losing some big boys along the line of scrimmage to Mt. Airy.

I understand that, or the fact that mostly the teams with deeper playoff runs get picked. I think this should also probably be the case 95% of the time, but this is that 5% where you have kid who is a D1 Commit. When the talent is so obvious, that should trump a deep playoff run in these 1 to 5% of cases. Coe is committed to a team that was ranked in the top 25 in the country for a part of the season. If the All State Team only selects All Region kids, then the Region also made a mistake if Coe wasnt first team Defensive End. I watched Graham, Union, Tazewell, Ridgeview, Gate City. They are all awesome teams, but none of them has a Defensive End as good as Coe. I do understand the WHY....related to why he didn't make All State because no deep playoff run/Marion being a weaker team, but I just wish they would occasionally make an exception for the WHY when you have a D1 kid. Just my opinion though. I'm sure others may have a different take.

Agree with the above except leaving off a Div 1 kid (one of only a few in Class 2) in Marion's Coe. There's no way there are 4 better defensive ends in Virginia's Class 2 than Coe.

Congrats to new Richlands Head Coach Ronnie Davis. Best wishes in turning it around for the Blues. I'm sure Coach Davis is excited about the opportunity and ready to get busy. Also, a humble and grateful thank you to former coach Tarter for years and years of service to your community. America could use a whole lot more just like you. Good luck to all Blues fans, players, and alums in the transition and new beginning.

Next year 1D, Got to go with Honaker. 1C, Got to go with Galax, then George Wythe 2D, Got to go with Graham and Union. 2C, I'll go Appomattox, then Glenvar, Radford, Gretna all close Statewide 2A, Same two with King William and Poquson followed by Southampton 1A, Essex was supposed to be young according to their fans at the game, so got to go with Essex, 2B, Riverheads followed by everyone else 1B, Altavista then Sussex. State Finals Class 1. I will go with the same two teams in Galax and Essex Class 2. I will go with Riverheads against another close call with Union, Graham, Appomattox. State Title Winner- No idea, but no suprise if Appo, Graham, Riverheads, Union win it. Lots can change. Does King William have a super team like 2 years ago or does somebody step up like a Clarke County or Buckingham or William Campbell or Gretna, or does Radford just reload even though they lost the QB. Hard to say, but I will go with one of the four teams mentioned above to win the state title.

MED is the best Class 1 district in Virginia and it's been that way for a while now. Radford, Glenvar, Bluefield, Graham, Tazewell are good football teams and these 5 schools certainly help the MED's schedule strength and deservingly so. I wonder if Galax's schedule played a part Saturday. Seeing a Radford and Graham and Glenvar has to have some kind of meaning when facing Essex. I don't know how much, but it has to factor in. Seeing this type of quality and athleticism and lineplay certainly means Galax isn't going to be overwhelmed emotionally/mentally prior to kickoff. They may win or lose, but they know they've seen some real juggernauts in the regular season that I think has to factor in.

It's why Calpreps is not perfectly scientific. Yes, it takes out personal opinions, emotions, etc, but a true scientific system would control for variables like schedule strength, injuries, past meetings with that school, etc. Calpreps is fun and it's good, but it's only going by total scores-final scores across the country to make a prediction without controlling for the variables mentioned above. A true-scientific study or research calculation to make a conclusion would control for multiple variables. Essex vs Grayson County? What does Calpreps say or guess, Grayson -3 points? I don't even bet, but I would probably start betting if given that offer. Essex all day long.

LOL, yep, Giles held Radford to 35 so it certainly means Giles was one of the better defenses Radford played all year. Much like the Glenvar argument, the Bluefield Beavers nearly beat Graham and this means Bluefield could have stacked right up with Radford and might have been the 2nd best team in Class 2 Virginia this year if they were in Virginia. P.S. Don't pay attention to the Giles and Bluefield overall records or the other 9 games played, let's just cherry pick one data point, make a conclusion from it and stick with it, because we don't do "fallacy."

Gate City at one point was probably the most hated team on this board years ago in my opinion.

However "horrible" it is, Galax is a less horrible than any class 1 team in Virginia including George Wythe. What I saw was outstanding defense by Galax.