Rhschamps04 15 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I honestly doubt anything will come of it more people just trying to get attention i believe. However has anyone ever thought of what would actually happen if a state did secede it had never crossed my mind but if one state and its public decide to leave what would happen? http://now.msn.com/15-states-start-petitons-to-leave-the-usa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 was at 23 states a few min ago lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 However has anyone ever thought of what would actually happen if a state did secede it had never crossed my mind but if one state and its public decide to leave what would happen? Well if history is any indicator, the U.S. Federal Government would march their armed forces into whatever states seceded, defeat whatever resistance they were met with, destroy the states infrastructure and ability to sustain itself, and finally occupy those states until all freedom of choice and will to fight is gone. I think that about sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well if history is any indicator, the U.S. Federal Government would march their armed forces into whatever states seceded, defeat whatever resistance they were met with, destroy the states infrastructure and ability to sustain itself, and finally occupy those states until all freedom of choice and will to fight is gone. I think that about sums it up. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well if history is any indicator, the U.S. Federal Government would march their armed forces into whatever states seceded, defeat whatever resistance they were met with, destroy the states infrastructure and ability to sustain itself, and finally occupy those states until all freedom of choice and will to fight is gone. I think that about sums it up. I doubt it would take them as long this time. In the War Between the States, the Union said they were going to do it over night and took over five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I watched a show on History a couple of months ago about Texas wanting to drop out, and basically, in theory, there is zero chance of it ever happening. There is no way an independent state could ever make it in todays world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Another interesting point...IF something this radical were to actually happen, how would it shape the divide? You could potentially have the northeast with the west coast as one and everything in the middle as another. How would that work? Not like it would actually happen but there is always the what if factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironguru 11 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Well if history is any indicator, the U.S. Federal Government would march their armed forces into whatever states seceded, defeat whatever resistance they were met with, destroy the states infrastructure and ability to sustain itself, and finally occupy those states until all freedom of choice and will to fight is gone. I think that about sums it up. Obama has already done that to all 50....I couldn't resist lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Wow, didn't know that many states had so many ignorant people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan64 307 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 If one takes into consideration state sovereignty the possibility of secession is within the right of the state. However, we all know the story about the Civil War. Could a state survive independently in todays world? Absolutley, the economy of Texas could function profitably in the world economy, the problem would be defense initially and naturally the resistance from the US Federal Govt. But if it were permitted, a state could function outside of the United States of America, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 If one takes into consideration state sovereignty the possibility of secession is within the right of the state. However, we all know the story about the Civil War. Could a state survive independently in todays world? Absolutley, the economy of Texas could function profitably in the world economy, the problem would be defense initially and naturally the resistance from the US Federal Govt. But if it were permitted, a state could function outside of the United States of America, IMO. I actually agree. I think a state could actually survive, and thrive, in the international community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend11 32 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Ha! There's a page on wikipedia dedicated to where states of the USA would fall in order globally in terms of GDP. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Ha! There's a page on wikipedia dedicated to where states of the USA would fall in order globally in terms of GDP. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) This pretty much makes my point. Obviously, a state with 25.7 million residents (Texas) isn't going to be challenging countries with 10x-40x its population in terms of GDP. Texas would rank just behind Canada and ahead of Turkey (both first-world nations) at 15th. Virginia would rank just ahead of Sweden (the country many misguided Lefties look toward as a model) in 31st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 There are a few states that are diversified enough to make it on their own. The fact that Texas is landlocked hurts it. VA could make it on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank 10 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'm not sure how the federal government would treat this but I do know one thing. College football would reach an all new level!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 There are a few states that are diversified enough to make it on their own. The fact that Texas is landlocked hurts it. VA could make it on its own. Texas is landlocked? Tell that to the folks in Houston and Galveston. The beaches of Padre Island must be on a lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 There are a few states that are diversified enough to make it on their own. The fact that Texas is landlocked hurts it. VA could make it on its own. Yeah, and Grizzly Adams had a beard! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Im an idiot! Thats what I get for posting late at night just before I go to bed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Im an idiot! Thats what I get for posting late at night just before I go to bed lol It happens to the best of us. Today I just couldn't resist the low hanging fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasDenton 79 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 If any state could exist on their own, I'd think it would be Texas. I saw somewhere where they have their own power grid (that'd be a start I think). They've also got that independent mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 If any state could exist on their own, I'd think it would be Texas. I saw somewhere where they have their own power grid (that'd be a start I think). They've also got that independent mentality. There are three power grids in the US, east, west, and Texas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I`m really surprised no one has started one for Virginia yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 It happens to the best of us. Today I just couldn't resist the low hanging fruit. I made it pretty easy! I`m really surprised no one has started one for Virginia yet. I was really suprised that that hasnt happened yet. But as a whole the state tends to be pretty open minded and moderate(in comparison to states such as Texas) so I really dont know if a petition would be that popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,450 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 They did, kinda. One of my facebook friends sent me a message about it then I went to check it out and it was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneWarning 212 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I saw one for New York with signatures so I know Virginia could get them. I just checked and Virginia has one now with currently 162 signatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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