sportsfan 21 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Saturday, December 1st 1 PLAYOFFS Wythe (Wytheville, VA) at Franklin (VA) [projection: Franklin (VA) 31-21] Sussex Central (Sussex, VA) at Honaker (VA) [projection: Sussex Central (Sussex, VA) 31-24] 2 PLAYOFFS Battle (Bristol, VA) at Essex (Tappahannock, VA) [projection: Essex (Tappahannock, VA) 28-20] Goochland (VA) at Wilson Memorial (Fishersville, VA) [projection: Wilson Memorial (Fishersville, VA) 26-22] 3 PLAYOFFS Kettle Run (Nokesville, VA) vs. Monroe (Fredericksburg, VA) at TBA [projection: Kettle Run (Nokesville, VA) 21-20] Tunstall (Dry Fork, VA) vs. Brookville (Lynchburg, VA) at TBA [projection: Brookville (Lynchburg, VA) 41-10] 4 PLAYOFFS Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA) vs. Courtland (Spotsylvania, VA) at TBA [projection: Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA) 35-7] Heritage (Lynchburg, VA) vs. Salem (VA) at TBA [projection: Heritage (Lynchburg, VA) 22-14] 5 PLAYOFFS Lake Taylor (Norfolk, VA) vs. North Stafford (Stafford, VA) at TBA [projection: Lake Taylor (Norfolk, VA) 35-21] Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA) vs. Hanover (Mechanicsville, VA) at TBA [projection: Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA) 35-21] 6 PLAYOFFS Bird (Chesterfield, VA) vs. Oakton (Vienna, VA) at TBA [projection: Bird [Lloyd C.] (Chesterfield, VA) 28-17] Hylton (Woodbridge, VA) vs. Ocean Lakes (Virginia Beach, VA) at TBA [projection: Ocean Lakes (Virginia Beach, VA) 31-17] source: http://www.calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2012/weekview.pl?week=Virginia_13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 so all the local teams are supposed to check out this week...hope not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasDenton 79 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 At least they made the scores close. Gave us credit for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 so all the local teams are supposed to check out this week...hope not! Could this be the start of the growing trend you and I have been kicking around on here for a while? The larger populated areas are pulling away from areas like ours in large part because of the availability and use of speed and agility centers. The productivity of these facilities can't be overlooked or denied. Our area will have the occasional "Clintwood" or "Richlands" but those banner seasons will become increasingly few and far between, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Could this be the start of the growing trend you and I have been kicking around on here for a while? The larger populated areas are pulling away from areas like ours in large part because of the availability and use of speed and agility centers. The productivity of these facilities can't be overlooked or denied. Our area will have the occasional "Clintwood" or "Richlands" but those banner seasons will become increasingly few and far between, in my opinion. don't go talking science to some of these people, it'll just piss them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasDenton 79 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 don't go talking science to some of these people, it'll just piss them off. Science is stupid! I use magic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcityfootballfan 517 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 so all the local teams are supposed to check out this week...hope not! the games will be decided on the field and the SWVA schools will do just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave316 64 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 the games will be decided on the field and the SWVA schools will do just fine! That's right Starcity! SWVA teams will fight like champions on the field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Our area will have the occasional "Clintwood" or "Richlands" but those banner seasons will become increasingly few and far between, in my opinion. Thats been the case for some time. I think with the new setup next season SWVA will see more titles. Richlands is really a D2 school right now. I think they would be the favorite if they were in D2 this season, and probably would have stood a strong chance of winning the title last season. This has been a weak year overall for teams from SWVA and we are still well represented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwloyal 192 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 The West doesn't stand a chance according to that other site. Maybe I should stay home... Nah :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGkid 18 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Championships do only happen occasionally. For most schools and players it can be a one time shot at a title. Everything goes in cycles including talent. Its just what you do with that talent, plus good coaching and a little luck can only help bring a title home. It is unrealistic to think a school is going to make a run every year or so. Speed camps or clinic can't hurt, but show me a slow 8 year old and I don't care what camps he go to or how great his work ethic, and I will show you a slow 17 year old. SWVA proud and for the record I never went to a speed camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Championships do only happen occasionally. For most schools and players it can be a one time shot at a title. Everything goes in cycles including talent. Its just what you do with that talent, plus good coaching and a little luck can only help bring a title home. It is unrealistic to think a school is going to make a run every year or so. Speed camps or clinic can't hurt, but show me a slow 8 year old and I don't care what camps he go to or how great his work ethic, and I will show you a slow 17 year old. SWVA proud and for the record I never went to a speed camp. in about 5 months time while getting ready for Nike camps, we were able to drop Garon Marcum's 40 time almost a full second and get him down in to the 4.5's by using techniques we got from several websites about diet, breathing techniques, and mechanics...if you don't think that a full time legit speed and conditioning school will reap noticeable benefits then you are wrong. There is a reason that these other programs are using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISOaPBR 15 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I just miss the days when a country boy could whup anybody's ass just because he was a country boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Im very unframiliar with these speed centers but I assume they are similar to gyms/trainers. Couldnt a coach go to some sort of seminar or workshop and be able to implement some of the concepts/techniques/etc in their own program? Like I said, I dont really know anything about this stuff(anyone who saw me play would know I dont know anything about speed ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Im very unframiliar with these speed centers but I assume they are similar to gyms/trainers. Couldnt a coach go to some sort of seminar or workshop and be able to implement some of the concepts/techniques/etc in their own program? Like I said, I dont really know anything about this stuff(anyone who saw me play would know I dont know anything about speed ;) ) there is a lot more to it than that...it's a full time thing...the kids are monitored and tested and they focus on individual areas that need improvement...everything from diet to equipment is specialized...most schools wouldn't have the equipment, much less the training on staff to come close to what these places offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwood78 161 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 yep ,wait before and during game ... if its not going their way........try to intimidate you even, other sites...... i always wonderd why they played their games at the NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY.... have a safe trip, best of luck GW, hope to come and see ya at salem................;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwloyal 192 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 yep ,wait before and during game ... if its not going their way........try to intimidate you even, other sites...... i always wonderd why they played their games at the NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY.... have a safe trip, best of luck GW, hope to come and see ya at salem................;) That's the impression I get lol Thanks, cwood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Im very unframiliar with these speed centers but I assume they are similar to gyms/trainers. Couldnt a coach go to some sort of seminar or workshop and be able to implement some of the concepts/techniques/etc in their own program? Like I said, I dont really know anything about this stuff(anyone who saw me play would know I dont know anything about speed ;) ) there is a lot more to it than that...it's a full time thing...the kids are monitored and tested and they focus on individual areas that need improvement...everything from diet to equipment is specialized...most schools wouldn't have the equipment, much less the training on staff to come close to what these places offer. I will use my best friend's daughter as an example again, as i did on another thread. She is a 5th grade basketball player who played on a Nike Elite team in Knoxville over the summer. Her parents enrolled her in Proehlific Park in Greensboro ( http://www.proehlificpark.com/ ) shortly after the summer season ended around July. She was already a very good basketball player averaging 19 points and 14 rebounds per game for the Nike Elite team in Knoxville. In the 5 months she has been going to Proehlific Park, she has added extreme quickness, agility, body positioning, understanding of weight distribution in order to gain an advantage and a jumping ability that is unheard of for a girl so young. I watched this young lady score 17 points and gather 9 rebounds against the Galax jv boys the other day, and anyone who knows Galax basketball knows how talented the boys are and will be for the next several years. The transformation is astonishing. Her trainer at PP is Donnell Williams, former NBA star. Granted, this young lady was born with a ton of talent but this is ridiculous. Her diet, developed by PP, is so precise it's broken down into calories per half-hour. It is truly a science. The varsity girls basketball coach thinks she could start for the varsity girls team right now and she can't play on the 8th grade team for another 2 years. Edited November 28, 2012 by sixcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 there is a lot more to it than that...it's a full time thing...the kids are monitored and tested and they focus on individual areas that need improvement...everything from diet to equipment is specialized...most schools wouldn't have the equipment, much less the training on staff to come close to what these places offer. So speed/agility training is VERY different/much more involved than strength training. But a coach going to workshops would have to help, right? There has to be a way to close the speed gap some. That is the biggest difference between SWVA teams and those from other parts of the state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 So speed/agility training is VERY different/much more involved than strength training. But a coach going to workshops would have to help, right? There has to be a way to close the speed gap some. That is the biggest difference between SWVA teams and those from other parts of the state anything would help...the more you work with the kids the better they will be. But, its also about resources and most coaches wont have the equipment or the training needed...plus it would have to be a year round thing. This is Nike's version: http://www.sparqtraining.com/home its a good starting point....basic equipment around $200. Only one cog on the big wheel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vols4life 57 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 i think its like the old rocky 3 movie..when the russian used all that equipment to train and rocky trained by workin and runnin...we are country folk and its just what we do..besides,did we forget these kids need alil fun..why they started in the first place..if they wanna train fine..but sports isnt everything ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave316 64 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 so all the local teams are supposed to check out this week...hope not! Sussex lost 19 seniors from last yrs team and barely beat Bath County a couple of weeks ago. Honaker has them at home and Sussex may have 50 to 100 fans show up in my opinion ..Home crowd could help the Tigers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 i think its like the old rocky 3 movie..when the russian used all that equipment to train and rocky trained by workin and runnin...we are country folk and its just what we do..besides,did we forget these kids need alil fun..why they started in the first place..if they wanna train fine..but sports isnt everything ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battleftbl 42 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I got into this a few years ago. I recieved very good advice from 2 speed coaches. The first is Tom Shaw, who was a speed coach at Florida State, the Strength and Conditioning coach for the NE Patriots and now trains many athletes from the NFL all the way down to pop warner. He has a website up and running now (http://www.coachtomshaw.com). The 2nd is a strength and conditioning coach at Cincinnati, Dave Lawson. I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but our speed at JSB improved alot over the past few years. Ryan Witten was really big into this also and helped with the speed improvements. Coach Wright came in and worked on technique such as keeping your elbows tucked when running, little things like that can take time off your 40. I have a whole bunch of workout plans and exercises for speed training from Cincy and FSU. It is a fact though.....speed can be improved just as strength. Most coaches in our area just dont work on it. Edited November 29, 2012 by battleftbl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I met Mr. Shaw at Nike Camp in UVA several years ago...he is a great guy and knows his stuff...he was one of the few that gave us good advice when we were trying to cut time off of Garon's 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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