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Given my best "guestimation".....it looks like Ridgeview controls their own fate if they win out. No matter what conceivable scenario I calculate, Ridgeview stays #11, except in the case of Graham losing to Narrows and Central losing to Gate City which would see Ridgeview at #10.
 
Only two weeks of games left, but the "possible" end results are all over the place.

Thanks for crunching the numbers for us Union_Fan. I do it sometimes......so I know how much work goes into it.
 
Just wanted you to know its appreciated

Central was just downright pitiful play calling at the goal line. Union dominated every other aspect of the game.
 
Gate City was two things. 1. A much improved and completely healthy GC team that Richlands didn't see. 2. Poor defensive scheme by the DC. Never rushed the QB and played a prevent style secondary where the DBs just stood and waited for the receivers to catch the ball and THEN tried to do something about it. After 3 quarters of that they upped the pressure on the QB and started playing more aggressive in the secondary. GC didn't score in the 4th.

Couldn't have said it better myself. For the first time in Union's history, the DC out coached the OC.... that was hard to say. The D played lights out. The offense moved up and down the field, but called some of the most IGNORANT plays inside the 5 I have ever seen. A single toss sweep could have gotten them a TD on any of those possessions. You DO NOT run up the middle when the other team is sending they're WHOLE freaking defense between the tackles. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
I will certainly give Central's DC credit. He must of been tapped into Union's headset because he knew exactly what they were calling. Sad that the Bears were that predictable. 12 plays on 3 possessions inside the 3 yard line and you walk away with nothing.
 
On a side note...it should not be that cold in October. I would hate to play a night game there in November or December. That wind was relentless.

(a) The Rating Scale-Considering all regular season games played against public and non-public Virginia schools and scheduled in accordance with the provisions of 68-4-6. (b) The winner of any games between the two tied teams if only the tied teams are involved. If more than two teams tied, and one of the tied teams beat all other tied teams, that team shall advance. © The team with the better record against all common opponents. (d) A team that played an opponent with an effective nine (9) game schedule (non-recognized opponent, i.e., home school or out-of-state non-public school, or inability to schedule/play a 10th game) shall be seeded ahead of a school whose opponents play 10 game schedules. (e) Schools that played an opponent with nine-game schedules shall be seeded ahead of opponents who played 10-game schedules. (f) The team with the highest winning percentage against rating scale recognized opponents. (g) The team with the higher average rating of all of each team's opponents. (h) The team with the higher average rating of all of each team's VHSL public and VHSL non-public school opponents. (i) The regional chairman, or his/her alternate if his/her school is involved, shall draw by lot to determine the playoff representative. (j) The group chairman or vice chairman if the chairman's school is involved, shall draw by lot to determine the playoff representative. Should both the group chair and vice chair be involved in the tie the group secretary would oversee the process.

************** UNOFFICIAL STANDINGS ************************
 
Assuming I have no typos or didn't leave any games out.
 
1.) Union                    7-0   191   27.28571429 2.) Appomattox          7-0   190   27.14285714 3.) Glenvar                 7-0   186   26.57142857 4.) Richlands              7-1   185   23.125 5.) Buckingham         7-1   184   23 6.) Giles                      6-1   161   23 7.) James River          6-2   163   20.375 8.) Central-Wise         5-3   151   18.875 9.) Dan River              5-3   149   18.625 10.) Grundy                4-4   141   17.625 11.) Grayson County  4-3   122   17.42857143 12.) Martinsville          2-5   119   17 13.) Lee                      4-3   118   16.85714286 14.) Gretna                 3-4   116   16.57142857 15.) Virginia High        3-4   112   16 16.) Graham               2-5   108   15.42857143 17.) Ridgeview            3-4   108   15.42857143 18.) Gate City             2-6   123   15.375 19.) Randolph-Henry  3-4   104   14.85714286 20.) Lebanon              2-5     98   14 21.) Chatham             2-5     97    13.85714286 22.) Floyd County       2-5     92   13.14285714 23.) Tazewell              2-5     89   12.71428571 24.) Marion Senior      1-6     80   11.42857143 25.) John S. Batle       1-6     80   11.42857143  

And I agree. Abingdon does not belong in 2A. Just need to schedule more competitive games. And like Tiger said, there's a ton of big schools in NET that aren't that far away. Look how close Tenn High is.
 
From Abingdon...
 
Tenn high - 23 minutes
Sullivan South - 38 minutes
Sullivan Central - 27 minutes
Sullivan East - 35 minutes
DB - 41 minutes
David Crockett -59 minutes
Elizabethton - 54 minutes
 
On their current schedule, Graham, Christiansburg, Blacksburg, and Tazewell are all over an hour drive. So, they don't have to travel 3 days by mule to find teams to play.
 
And in defense of the Falcons, you don't always know how a team is going to do each year. Several of the teams on this year's schedule had winning records last year.

It just simply comes down to wins by opponents. When a team wins a game they get 2 rider points for each win that their defeated opponent has. I just checked Lord Botetourt's schedule( the team directly in front of Abingdon). They have 6 wins, Abingdon has 6 wins, but LB has 26 rider points from their 6 wins. Abindgon only has 18. Base points aren't as huge as rider points in the grand scheme. Take the example below...
 
 
Beating a 1A out of district team that is 9-1 would get Abingdon 16 base points, 18 rider points, and 2 classification points for a total of 36 points.
Beating a 6A out of district team that is 0-10 would get Abingdon 26 base points, 0 rider points, and 0 classification points for a total of 26 points, or 10 LESS points than the 1A team.
 
The best way to get power points is to beat teams with winning records. Thus far, Abingdon's schedule has consisted of 4-1 win teams, 1 - 2 win team, and 1 - 3 win team. None have a winning record.

It just simply comes down to wins by opponents. When a team wins a game they get 2 rider points for each win that their defeated opponent has. I just checked Lord Botetourt's schedule( the team directly in front of Abingdon). They have 6 wins, Abingdon has 6 wins, but LB has 26 rider points from their 6 wins. Abindgon only has 18. Base points aren't as huge as rider points in the grand scheme. Take the example below...
 
 
Beating a 1A out of district team that is 9-1 would get Abingdon 16 base points, 18 rider points, and 2 classification points for a total of 36 points.
Beating a 6A out of district team that is 0-10 would get Abingdon 26 base points, 0 rider points, and 0 classification points for a total of 26 points, or 10 LESS points than the 1A team.
 
The best way to get power points is to beat teams with winning records. Thus far, Abingdon's schedule has consisted of 4-1 win teams, 1 - 2 win team, and 1 - 3 win team. None have a winning record.

It just simply comes down to wins by opponents. When a team wins a game they get 2 rider points for each win that their defeated opponent has. I just checked Lord Botetourt's schedule( the team directly in front of Abingdon). They have 6 wins, Abingdon has 6 wins, but LB has 26 rider points from their 6 wins. Abindgon only has 18. Base points aren't as huge as rider points in the grand scheme. Take the example below...
 
 
Beating a 1A out of district team that is 9-1 would get Abingdon 16 base points, 18 rider points, and 2 classification points for a total of 36 points.
Beating a 6A out of district team that is 0-10 would get Abingdon 26 base points, 0 rider points, and 0 classification points for a total of 26 points, or 10 LESS points than the 1A team.
 
The best way to get power points is to beat teams with winning records. Thus far, Abingdon's schedule has consisted of 4-1 win teams, 1 - 2 win team, and 1 - 3 win team. None have a winning record.

It just simply comes down to wins by opponents. When a team wins a game they get 2 rider points for each win that their defeated opponent has. I just checked Lord Botetourt's schedule( the team directly in front of Abingdon). They have 6 wins, Abingdon has 6 wins, but LB has 26 rider points from their 6 wins. Abindgon only has 18. Base points aren't as huge as rider points in the grand scheme. Take the example below...
 
 
Beating a 1A out of district team that is 9-1 would get Abingdon 16 base points, 18 rider points, and 2 classification points for a total of 36 points.
Beating a 6A out of district team that is 0-10 would get Abingdon 26 base points, 0 rider points, and 0 classification points for a total of 26 points, or 10 LESS points than the 1A team.
 
The best way to get power points is to beat teams with winning records. Thus far, Abingdon's schedule has consisted of 4-1 win teams, 1 - 2 win team, and 1 - 3 win team. None have a winning record.

It just simply comes down to wins by opponents. When a team wins a game they get 2 rider points for each win that their defeated opponent has. I just checked Lord Botetourt's schedule( the team directly in front of Abingdon). They have 6 wins, Abingdon has 6 wins, but LB has 26 rider points from their 6 wins. Abindgon only has 18. Base points aren't as huge as rider points in the grand scheme. Take the example below...
 
 
Beating a 1A out of district team that is 9-1 would get Abingdon 16 base points, 18 rider points, and 2 classification points for a total of 36 points.
Beating a 6A out of district team that is 0-10 would get Abingdon 26 base points, 0 rider points, and 0 classification points for a total of 26 points, or 10 LESS points than the 1A team.
 
The best way to get power points is to beat teams with winning records. Thus far, Abingdon's schedule has consisted of 4-1 win teams, 1 - 2 win team, and 1 - 3 win team. None have a winning record.

I hear ya Falconman. I'm tired of hearing it too! All the "Union's so great", "Union's on a roll", "Union's undefeated", "Union would make Falcon salad croissants, with white wine, out of AHS if they ever played", is getting pretty old.
 
On behalf of all Union Fans everywhere, especially those in Camelot, let me apologize for all the positive publicity that Union has received. It has really been unfair to all non Union fans. Union is just trying to play the best ball that Union can, and Union doesn't mean to step on any toes. Union wishes AHS all the best of luck that Union can. Union certainly hopes that AHS has a successful season, and Union wants all the AHS kids to stay healthy and do their best. If Union does play AHS in the future, Union will do their best to be good sports and Union fans will be sure to visit the concession stands and all the fine eating establishments in Abingdon.
 
To sum up, Union is sorry.

Speaking of which.......... No, I really don't want to say anything. Let's let sleeping cats lie.

I don't think it would matter if AHS looked over, under, around, or through Lebanon. Short of pre-game victory tacos causing severe cramps and diarrhea I don't see how AHS could lose this one.

It just comes down to wins, and the teams on Richlands' schedule has more of them than Giles.
 
Given my scenario, Richlands' opponents will be a combined 56-44 while Giles' will be a combined 43-57. In 2013 Giles was 10-0 and Union was 8-2, but Giles only had 16 more points. Had Union won either game they lost they would have shot ahead of Giles.
 
Richlands will get 102 rider points, from their opponents' wins. Giles will get 86 from theirs. That's a 16 point difference, and will basically make up for the Union loss.

Not so fast my friend....    Playing larger teams only counts if they win. Union's win over 1A JI burton will get them 33-35 power points. Appomattox's win over 3A Heritage will most likely only net them 26-28 points as they have only won 1 game and will more than likely finish 3-7 or 4-6.   And David Crockett, Union's 4A "out of state" team, still gets full power points. If they finish 5-5 that would be 32 more points.   Also, scheduling for the Dogwood means all the teams play each other the rest of the year. All games will be a "push", meaning Appo can't gain points as the teams they beat will be playing each other so they get the same points regardless of who wins.   Like I said a lot of "IFs", but it is possible. Union would depend on Eastside sweeping their Cumberland schedule with the exception of JI Burton, and Crockett to finish 6-4.   Assuming all teams win out and Giles beats Glenvar.
 
1. Union - 290 - 29
2. Appo - 288 -28.8
3. Richlands - 270 - 27
4. Giles - 268 -26.8
5. Glenvar - 264 - 26.4
 
 
If Glenvar beats Giles
 
1. Union - 290 - 29
2. Appo - 288 -28.8
3. Glenvar - 284 - 28.4
4. Richlands - 270 - 27
5. Buckingham - 261 - 26.1

If your right and I have no reason to doubt you.......I hope Giles beats Glenvar. I would be pulling for Giles anyway. I could never pull for a Roanoke team....lol

Yes.
 
We may not feel like we are lesser competition, but let's face the "big" NET teams view us that way. Heck, even the eastern VA teams, in our own classification, view us as lesser competition.
 
We are those "poor inbred mountain people". I guarantee you that David Crockett only scheduled Union because they thought it would be an easy victory. Sullivan North ONLY scheduled Union the last 2 years because they didn't have a choice. They dropped us after '12, but couldn't fill they're schedule so had to pick us back up. Notice we're not playing them this cycle.
 
Union has had a hard time with scheduling. Teams in NET don't typically want to play us "hillbillies" in SWVA. They know that our best teams are better than MOST of their teams, but as long as they don't play us it won't be proven.
 
I agree with you, but, unfortunately, NET can't take the chance of being humiliated.

Union at Middleboro in 2013 was beyond ridiculous. When a Middleboro player walks up to an official AFTER the play, points at a Union player and motions that he was held, and the official throws a flag you know it's going to be a long night...and it was. Then there was a phantom 30 yard unsportsmanlike penalty that the ref couldn't even tell Turner what it was for. I dread going to Letcher.

Ok, I said nothing to belittle Wise, but I don't think we will need luck to beat Wse.
 
I was not underestimating them whatsoever, I mentioned they scare us the most, but we should be favored and if Union plays a solid game, they win. And say what you want, Mullins, a a sophomore, is not as good as Collier, and no one on the outside for Wise is as good as McClung. I tried to be civil, but if you wanna start a bash fest, Ill gladly join in.
 
Union faces the best TE in the region every day in practice, I think they can prepare for a good TE in England.

Butterflies??
 
Union vs Richlands = pterodactyls in the stomach

Butterflies??
 
Union vs Richlands = pterodactyls in the stomach

I think Union and Grundy have been at the same jamborees since 2012, and this year's team is the best I've seen yet. Having seen Central play Eastside, I would give the edge to Central. However, if Grundy can load the box and stop Central's QB then they have a shot.
 
Don't know how injuries will play out.

Agree 100%!
 
D coordinator plays an almost prevent style formation. He waits for the RBs to come to the linebackers and waits for the receivers to come to the DBs. Union has MORE than enough athletes to cover 1 on 1 and jam the receivers at the line. We could really use a different coordinator.