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  1. Northern Neck schools often play each other twice. Northumberland, Lancaster, Washington & Lee and Rappahannock come to mind. Rappahannock and Washington & Lee are playing twice this year.
  2. Go back and read again. The answer is no the won't be harmed. The vast majority will actually be helped because beating Bland would lower most schools rating vs not playing them.
  3. Still two months away. No big deal yet. If it were two weeks away now that would be an issue.
  4. They could always play the Oct 4 game at Auburn and the 11-8 game at the Fort.
  5. Good teams are better off playing 9 games rather than taking a forfeit from Bland.
  6. If I am not mistaken I think in Virginia somewhere down the tiebreaker procedure rules there is a tie breaker that favors schools that were only able to schedule nine games? Am I correct?
  7. It is not about how many points you get, it is about how many points you AVERAGE. When you play nine games it just makes each game a little more important because you are dividing the pie up nine ways instead of 10.
  8. Eastern Montgomery could pick up Montcalm on 9-27 OR Auburn could pick them up on 10-18 if both schools are interested. Montcalm only has 9 games.
  9. Paintsville is the 2nd best team on your schedule.
  10. The baseball draft receives no media attention because the media is not showing the players in college or high school. Most people already know who the NBA draftees and NFL draftees are before they are drafted. Almost no one knows who the baseball players are.
  11. While most of what you type I agree with Bluefield was not jobbed. All the points that you use are subjective. The exact same point system for AAA schools that was in use then is the exact same system used today. There was no "invite". When you use that word in my mind you are implying that one team was selected by opinion over another team. That is simply not the case now and it wasn't the case then. Whatever two AAA schools amassed the highest point average in their regular season games were "invited" to play in the AAA title game. It had nothing to do with opinion. The 1960 Weir team outpointed Bluefield even with their one loss to Wheeling. Weir beat 4 AAA size schools that went 9-1. Bluefield's schedule in 1960 included four AA schools. Graham, Gary. Mullens and Tazewell. These AA schools played other AA schools. In WV there are no welfare points for playing down like in VA. At the end of the 1960 season Bluefield finished 10-0 but was fourth in the ratings. I have never seen the final ratings in print (And believe me I have looked) but going into the final week Weir had an average after 9 games (8-1) of 14.72, Nitro 14.22 (9-0); Bluefield 13.94 (9-0) , East Bank 13.93 (9-0) and Morgantown 13.00 (9-0-1). Bluefield beat a terrible Princeton team (1-9); Weir beat Parkersburg (8-2) and East Bank and Morgantown did not play because their schedules were completed, Nitro beat AA Poca but barley maintained their lead. Weir beat Ohio State power Steubenville (9-1) and Penn State power Johnstown (7-2-1). Bluefield played "NO ONE" in 1960 the quality of Johnstown or Steubenville. The best team we played was Big Creek at 7-3 and we needed the lights to go out at halftime and a long delay just to come back and beat them 14-13. We struggled against a 1-9 Richlands team 20-0. We only played three winning teams all year. We simply were not in Weir's class that season. I think we could have beaten Nitro. As for third place East Bank I don't really know. I would like to think Gainer would have been able to come up with a plan to beat Weir had they played but I am skeptical. What it all boils down to is Bluefield played a VERY soft schedule in 1960 compared to Weir. A slightly softer schedule when it came to Nitro and East Bank, Gainer realized this and very soon thereafter Mullens and Tazewell were replaced by AAA Kanawha Valley teams DuPont and Charleston. Even then Bluefield's schedule was a liability in the ratings because we just could not drop AA rivals Graham and Gary. 1968 was a different story. I believe Bluefield was indeed the best in the state. So lets talk about why they did not get the points that they needed in 1968. First let's backtrack to 1967. Most people don't realize this but Bluefield finished (10-0) 2nd in the ratings to Stonewall Jackson of Charleston (9-1). That is right. The Kanawha Valley team recorded more rating points in their 9 wins than Bluefield received in their 10 wins. As a matter of fact Bluefield finished just 1/2 point ahead of Charleston (8-1) for 2nd place. The last week of the season Charleston and Stonewall played their traditional rivalry game at Laidley Field. Charleston was 8-0 (9 game schedule) and Stonewall was 8-1 losing early in the season to St. Albans. Stonewall pulled the upset. The ratings were so very close between the three schools that the WVSSAC commissioner had to call G. W. Danville in Danville, VA to confirm their enrollment. Why? Because Bluefield had defeated Jefferson High of Roanoke and Jefferson had later defeated G. W. Danville. WV had to find out if Bluefield would be awarded a bonus point or not. In WV you do not get welfare bonus points. You only get a bonus point if your defeated opponent defeats a team in their class or higher. Since Jefferson was a AAA school by WV standards Bluefield would only get the bonus point if G. W. Danville was also a AAA by WV standards. The call was made to the principal at GW and as we all know that school is plenty large enough to be AAA. Bluefield got the bonus point and went from one half point behind Charleston to one half point ahead. Now on to 1968. Lets talk about how the points went down that season. In 1967 Bluefield also played a winless Patrick Henry team from Roanoke. As we all know Gainer retired after the 1967 season and went to Patrick Henry, but not as coach, he was the AD. He did not coach until the following season in 1969. Bluefield and Patrick Henry did not play a 2nd game. I have never been able to find out why. Perhaps it was a one game contract. Perhaps Gainer did not want his school to have face Bluefield. Nevertheless they did not play. Bluefield filled this slot in 1968 with a game at Logan. Or so they thought. Logan had been in conflict with the WVSSAC the whole 1967 season. First getting permission to play a player in 1967 whose age was in question and then midseason being told they could no longer play him. Logan refused to stop playing him and sued the WVSSAC. They eventually lost and in true WVSSAC vindictive character (see Big Creek 1958) they suspended the Logan football program for the 1968 season. The legal wrangling did not come to a conclusion until August 1968 and it was too late for Bluefield to find a replacement for Logan on their 1968 schedule and therefore had to play a 9 game schedule. IMO this and the fact that some of the teams that they played in 1967 had significantly worse records in 1968 than they had in 1967 is what cost Bluefield and chance at the 1968 title. Had Bluefield played and beaten a decent Logan squad and beaten them they would have made the top two. The final ratings for 1968 showed: #1 Charleston (9-0-1) 14.65; #2 St. Albans (9-1) 14.55; #3 Bluefield (9-0) 14.27. What evidence available certainly does lead to the conclusion that Bluefield was the better team that season. When you look at mutual opponents Bluefield comes out way ahead. So my conclusion is Bluefield has never been jobbed. They simply did not amass the points the competitors did. Now if you want to get into other factors such as geography then the teams that nosed them out have the advantage because they are located in areas where they are not "forced" to play natural rivals that were AA schools then you have a point. But IMO that is Bluefield's problem and not theirs.
  12. Bluefield was NEVER jobbed out of any title games. The system in place at the time was administered fairly. The ONLY team that Bluefield had that did not make the playoffs that I believe was the best team in the state of WV that particular year was the 1968 team that finished 9-0. That was Nick Colobro's senior season. The 1966 team was a great team but they went to Big Creek and Gresham and Co put a 19-0 hurting on them. Interesting enough Graham (who Bluefield beat 40-0) beat Big Creek at Bluefield on the final Saturday of the season knocking Big Creek out of the WV AAA title game. Until 1971 only the top two teams in each class in WV made the playoffs and obviously there was only one round.
  13. I would rather my fan base to expect to improve that to accept status quo.
  14. http://wvmetronews.com/2019/06/17/bluefield-defensive-end-sean-martin-commits-to-north-carolina-over-wvu/
  15. I would have to say Robbie Newman's 43 yd HB option catch for Jonesville to tie the 1988 championship game with 1:22 left (only his 2nd catch of the season) was the most important single play in SW VA. It was one of the most unlikely plays I have ever seen succeed and it led directly to a state championship in a school's very last game. As for a play that set up a dynasty it would have to be the final play of the first half in the WV AAA championship game vs Parkersburg. Bluefield ran the Halfback pass where the QB hands off and circles out to receive the pass. The play tied the game at 7-7 and gave Bluefield momentum at the half and they went on to win the game and they have rarely lost that "momentum" since that play. It was the first of 11 championships and many successful seasons since.
  16. At this point in time that only rules out Graham.
  17. Usually not until July and then there are usually several revisions.
  18. This is an honor he is truly deserving. His records were good. His contribution to his community was unequalled.
  19. Real schedules. Not educated guesses or we are replacing team A with Team B but I don't know where or when. Please post only complete schedules. Everything else will be deleted. Abingdon Bland County Chilhowie Eastside George Wythe Giles J. I. Burton John S. Battle Lebanon Lee Marion Pulaski County Rye Cove Twin Springs Virginia High
  20. Potomac Falls yearly football record 1997 01-09-0 .100 Wes Driscoll 1998 06-03-0 .667 Wes Driscoll 1999 06-04-0 .600 Wes Driscoll 2000 05-05-0 .500 Wes Driscoll 2001 04-06-0 .400 2002 04-06-0 .400 Casey Childs 2003 07-03-0 .700 Casey Childs 2004 04-06-0 .400 Casey Childs 2005 04-06-0 .400 Casey Childs 2006 07-03-0 .700 Scott Woodlief 2007 04-06-0 .400 Scott Woodlief 2008 10-02-0 .833 Scott Woodlief 2009 03-07-0 .300 Scott Woodlief 2010 01-09-0 .100 Mike Gims 2011 02-08-0 .200 Mike Gims 2012 04-06-0 .400 Mike Gims 2013 04-07-0 .364 Jason Allen 2014 06-05-0 .545 Jason Allen 2015 08-04-0 .667 Jason Allen 2016 09-04-0 .692 Paul Barnes 2017 05-06-0 .455 Paul Barnes 2018 05-06-0 .455 Paul Barnes 109-121 .474 playoff record 3-8 .273 record by opponent 21 09-12-0 .429 1997-2018 Broad Run 18 14-04-0 .778 2003-2018 Dominion 18 05-13-0 .278 1997-2014 Park View Sterling 14 08-06-0 .571 1999-2012 Loudoun County 13 05-08-0 .385 2007-2018 Briar Woods 12 07-05-0 .583 1999-2010 Jefferson, WV 10 07-03-0 .700 2003-2014 Heritage Leesburg 10 03-07-0 .300 1999-2014 Loudoun Valley 09 00-09-0 .000 2011-2018 Tuscarora 08 07-01-0 .875 2007-2018 Freedom South Riding 08 01-07-0 .125 1999-2012 Liberty Bealeton 08 00-08-0 .000 2001-2018 Stone Bridge 06 02-04-0 .333 2005-2010 Martinsburg, WV 04 02-02-0 .500 2005-2008 Hedgesville, WV 04 00-04-0 .000 2013-2018 John Champe 04 01-03-0 .250 2009-2012 Kettle Run 04 04-00-0 1.000 2015-2018 Langley 04 02-02-0 .500 1997-2000 South Lakes 03 02-01-0 .667 2015-2018 Falls Church 02 00-02-0 .000 2003-2004 Broadway 02 02-00-0 1.000 2001-2002 Caroline 02 00-02-0 .000 1997-1998 Chantilly 02 02-00-0 1.000 1999-2000 Clarke County 02 00-02-0 .000 2001-2002 Fauquier 02 02-00-0 1.000 2015-2016 George Marshall 02 01-01-0 .500 1999-2000 Handley 02 01-01-0 .500 1997-1998 Herndon 02 02-00-0 1.000 2015-2016 JEB Stuart 02 01-01-0 .500 2005-2006 Manassas Park 02 00-02-0 .000 2015-2016 Massaponax 02 02-00-0 1.000 2003-2004 Millbrook 02 00-02-0 .000 1997-1998 Oakton 02 02-00-0 1.000 1997-1998 Osbourn Park 02 01-01-0 .500 2017-2018 Riverside 02 02-00-0 1.000 2017-2018 Rock Ridge 02 01-01-0 .500 2015-2016 Thomas Edison 02 01-01-0 .500 1997-1998 Thomas Jefferson Alexandria 02 00-02-0 .000 2001-2002 Turner Ashby 02 01-01-0 .500 1997-1998 W. T. Woodson 02 01-01-0 .500 2014-2015 Wakefield 02 02-00-0 1.000 1999-2000 Warren County 02 02-00-0 1.000 2005-2006 Washington - Lee 02 01-01-0 .500 2011-2012 Woodgrove 01 01-00-0 1.000 2016-2016 Albemarle 01 00-01-0 .000 1997-1997 Centreville 01 01-00-0 1.000 2008-2008 James Wood 01 01-00-0 1.000 2016-2016 Orange County
  21. https://www.cityofbluefield.com/parksrec/page/mitchell-stadium
 
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