Optimal62 178 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, sixcat said: Again, just trying to be clear, I graduated from Grayson with the Cassell twins and I know Todd, although not well. Still talk to Brant fairly often even though he doesn't live here anymore. I don't recall either of the Cassell twins being "all-state" but they were very good. They very well could have been. I'll ask Brant next time I talk to him. I don't like using transitive properties, especially for high school football. Different teams match up in different ways. If Mark Dixon has taught us anything, it's that line size is irrelevant. Galax has been out-sized along the line of scrimmage for the better part of a decade, yet continually win at the point of contact. Size doesn't help you much if you don't have strength, stamina and proper technique. GW probably played Galax better than anyone since the Glenvar game in the trenches. But lets be honest, Dixon has struggled to find a cohesive unit along the line of scrimmage since Andrew Belcher tore up his knee. With a healthy Belcher, Galax is a much better football team! Grayson's defense will keep them in a lot of games they can win if the offense can score enough points. I was speaking of Mack Cassell who is Crews dad. Mack was older than the twins and graduated in early 90s and One of the best linebackers to come through the area. Jason and Brant was the twins names. I played on the same team as they did and I am 90 % sure Jason was all state as well, he was an outstanding linebacker as well. Brant was a great option QB. Really hurt us when blew out his knee last game of his senior year before the playoffs. I don't know who Todd is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimal62 178 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Hokiebird7 said: Giles doesn't even have a QB lol...messing with ya You got me on that one Sir!. Taliback that can also throw I should say. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Optimal62 said: I was speaking of Mack Cassell who is Crews dad. Mack was older than the twins and graduated in early 90s and One of the best linebackers to come through the area. Jason and Brant was the twins names. I played on the same team as they did and I am 90 % sure Jason was all state as well, he was an outstanding linebacker as well. Brant was a great option QB. Really hurt us when blew out his knee last game of his senior year before the playoffs. I don't know who Todd is though. I will PM you. I'm never comfortable dropping names on a message board. Full disclosure, I know who you are and have since your first post on this board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiney2011 0 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 When you done ridgeview did you give them 1a points or 2a points for pike central? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, Swiney2011 said: When you done ridgeview did you give them 1a points or 2a points for pike central? Pike is considered a 2A in Virginia, but even if they were 1A Ridgeview would still get 2A points for playing down a classification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: Pike is considered a 2A in Virginia, but even if they were 1A Ridgeview would still get 2A points for playing down a classification. I thought that only applied to in-district competition? Swiney2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiney2011 0 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 So honaker would also be considered 2a points for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, UVAObserver said: I thought that only applied to in-district competition? Starting last cycle, i think, it applies to all smaller class opponents. I think it was an incentive for larger schools to play smaller schools that want to play up. Northside got 3A points for Galax. Deleted Account and Swiney2011 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Swiney2011 said: So honaker would also be considered 2a points for them? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 That seems so dumb to me. Why ever test yourself and take a risk when you can get 2A points by playing Thomas Walker and Eastside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 And so that means Abingdon got 3A points for Ridgeview? They made hay then, beating a 7-1 team and getting 3A points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiney2011 0 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 I think ridgeview got 1a points for grundy win 2 bonus points for the win same with union over burton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) This week's 2D ratings if Giles and Grayson Win. 1.) Ridgeview 8-1 231 25.66667 2.) Grayson Co 8-1 221 24.55556 3.) Union 7-2 213 23.66667 4.) Graham 8-1 210 23.33333 5.) Richlands 5-4 184 20.44444 6.) Va High 5-4 181 20.11111 7.) Battle, John 5-4 170 18.88889 8.) Central-Wise 3-6 144 16 9.) Marion 4-5 144 16 10.) Tazewell 2-7 130 14.44444 11.) Lee 2-7 128 14.22222 12.) Gate City 1-9 138 13.8 13.) Lebanon 1-8 112 12.44444 If they both lose. 1.) Ridgeview 8-1 229 25.44444 2.) Union 7-2 213 23.66667 3.) Graham 8-1 208 23.11111 4.) Grayson Co 7-2 205 22.77778 5.) Richlands 5-4 184 20.44444 6.) Va High 5-4 181 20.11111 7.) Battle, John 5-4 170 18.88889 8.) Central-Wise 3-6 144 16 9.) Marion 4-5 144 16 10.) Tazewell 2-7 130 14.44444 11.) Lee 2-7 128 14.22222 12.) Gate City 1-9 138 13.8 13.) Lebanon 1-8 112 12.44444 Edited October 30, 2018 by Union_Fan Typo Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionguy_2017 288 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Union_Fan said: This week's 2D ratings if Giles and Grayson Win. 1.) Ridgeview 8-1 229 25.44444 2.) Grayson Co 8-1 221 24.55556 3.) Union 7-2 213 23.66667 4.) Graham 8-1 210 23.33333 5.) Richlands 5-4 184 20.44444 6.) Va High 5-4 181 20.11111 7.) Battle, John 5-4 170 18.88889 8.) Central-Wise 3-6 144 16 9.) Marion 4-5 144 16 10.) Tazewell 2-7 130 14.44444 11.) Lee 2-7 128 14.22222 12.) Gate City 1-9 138 13.8 13.) Lebanon 1-8 112 12.44444 If they both lose. 1.) Ridgeview 8-1 229 25.44444 2.) Union 7-2 213 23.66667 3.) Graham 8-1 208 23.11111 4.) Grayson Co 7-2 205 22.77778 5.) Richlands 5-4 184 20.44444 6.) Va High 5-4 181 20.11111 7.) Battle, John 5-4 170 18.88889 8.) Central-Wise 3-6 144 16 9.) Marion 4-5 144 16 10.) Tazewell 2-7 130 14.44444 11.) Lee 2-7 128 14.22222 12.) Gate City 1-9 138 13.8 13.) Lebanon 1-8 112 12.44444 I’m sorry if it’s already been stated, but what will 1-4 look like if Grayson wins tonight but loses Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Unionguy_2017 said: I’m sorry if it’s already been stated, but what will 1-4 look like if Grayson wins tonight but loses Friday? Something like this. Assuming Burton wins and it doesn't rain on Battle hill. 1.) Ridgeview 9-1 262 26.2 2.) Union 8-2 249 24.9 3.) Graham 9-1 247 24.7 4.) Grayson Co 8-2 240 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 6:43 PM, Ryan4VT said: We thought that last year, too, and they won both hahhhaha. One down. One to go for the naysayers! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Lets go Grayson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloSports2 35 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 So, is 1-8 pretty much locked now just what seed they are is all to determine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, HaloSports2 said: So, is 1-8 pretty much locked now just what seed they are is all to determine? 1-7 is. Central and Marion are still fighting over the 8th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloSports2 35 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: 1-7 is. Central and Marion are still fighting over the 8th spot. I am assuming whichever one wins they are in, what was the scenario if they both lose? I'm interested because I figure one of them will play us (Ridgeview). Either probably won't provide much of a challenge, but still would like to know who we play. swva_havok_fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, HaloSports2 said: I am assuming whichever one wins they are in, what was the scenario if they both lose? I'm interested because I figure one of them will play us (Ridgeview). Either probably won't provide much of a challenge, but still would like to know who we play. Barring HIGHLY unlikely circumstances...If they both win or lose, Marion is in. If Marion loses, Central should out point them by a good amount if they defeat Grundy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Can a Richlands and Battle win this week put VHS at 7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bearcat Dad said: Can a Richlands and Battle win this week put VHS at 7? Yes. Battle would get 6th by about 5 points. I'm going to throw out last week scenarios, but was waiting on the official weekly ratings to make sure I start with accurate data. Bearcat Dad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: Yes. Battle would get 6th by about 5 points. I'm going to throw out last week scenarios, but was waiting on the official weekly ratings to make sure I start with accurate data. Thanks! Union_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTrot 180 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bearcat Dad said: Thanks! Bearcat Dad, there is no way for that to happen! Battle cannot beat Union! Bearcat Dad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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