footballfanatic 59 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Wonder what happens if they don’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers_07 72 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'M sure all the teams in the district that Bland County is a part of will find a 10th game, even if they schedule a team from out of state. but if they don't i guess they have to ask VHSL committee about playing just nine games. the last team i know locally that played only 9 games was Haysi, but not for sure what year tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 They could always go about it the way Bluefield did a few years back when they played Graham twice in the same season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I would think that all of Bland's games would count as a forfeit and a win for their opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Good teams are better off playing 9 games rather than taking a forfeit from Bland. Plywood_King and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plywood_King 518 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bluefield researcher said: Good teams are better off playing 9 games rather than taking a forfeit from Bland. ^This. If you are even a middle of the road team, you're better off finishing the season with nine games than to drop your points average by taking the 16 points for a victory over a 1A school with no bonus points attached. Depending on who your opponent is, a loss could be more valuable to your playoff seeding than a win over a 1A school with no bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 ^ THAT??? WHO could you lose to that would give you at least 16 points??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Bulldog 82 said: I would think that all of Bland's games would count as a forfeit and a win for their opponents. Nope. Four schools added a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 10:36 PM, Tigers_07 said: I'M sure all the teams in the district that Bland County is a part of will find a 10th game, You think a bunch of schools still need a game 2 weeks b4 the season starts??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, VHSLhelper said: ^ THAT??? WHO could you lose to that would give you at least 16 points??? Unless the point system has changed this year, an 8 win 3A school or a 10 win 2A school would both yield 16 pts to the loser. Plywood_King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plywood_King 518 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 hours ago, VHSLhelper said: ^ THAT??? WHO could you lose to that would give you at least 16 points??? Not that there are a lot of local teams that would be that valuable, but an undefeated Bluefield, Graham, Ridgeview, Union, or Radford would be worth 16 points in a loss, and an undefeated Abingdon or Blacksburg would be worth 18. If Carroll County were to (God forbid) win six games, they would get you 16 points in a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfanatic 59 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Bulldog 82 said: I would think that all of Bland's games would count as a forfeit and a win for their opponents. no it wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 So those schools who may be unable to find a 10th game could be penalized in the playoffs due to no fault of their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, Bulldog 82 said: So those schools who may be unable to find a 10th game could be penalized in the playoffs due to no fault of their own? Go back and read again. The answer is no the won't be harmed. The vast majority will actually be helped because beating Bland would lower most schools rating vs not playing them. Plywood_King and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plywood_King 518 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Bulldog 82 said: So those schools who may be unable to find a 10th game could be penalized in the playoffs due to no fault of their own? You might have missed a key detail in regards to the modern playoff points system. Your seeding isn't based on the total points you earn during the season, but instead the total points you earn in the season divided by the amount of games you play. The entire system was designed to prevent a situation like this from hurting the schools who don't have a full schedule. The teams that will get hurt the most in regards to playoff points aren't the schools that scheduled to play Bland, but instead the schools that were scheduled to play the teams that would have played Bland but now only have nine games. Every game you play earns you bonus points for every game your opponent wins; 2 bonus points in a victory, 1 in a loss (for example, you play Abingdon and Abingdon finishes with 8 wins. If you beat Abingdon, you would get 16 bonus points, 2 points for every win Abingdon has. If you lose to Abingdon you get 8 bonus points, 1 point for every win Abingdon has.) Now, if we take Marion for example, they are scheduled to play George Wythe and Grayson County, both of whom were scheduled to play, and likely would have beaten, Bland. That means that there will be one fewer victory for Grayson County and GW, meaning fewer bonus point for Marion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Plywood_King said: You might have missed a key detail in regards to the modern playoff points system. Your seeding isn't based on the total points you earn during the season, but instead the total points you earn in the season divided by the amount of games you play. The entire system was designed to prevent a situation like this from hurting the schools who don't have a full schedule. The teams that will get hurt the most in regards to playoff points aren't the schools that scheduled to play Bland, but instead the schools that were scheduled to play the teams that would have played Bland but now only have nine games. Every game you play earns you bonus points for every game your opponent wins; 2 bonus points in a victory, 1 in a loss (for example, you play Abingdon and Abingdon finishes with 8 wins. If you beat Abingdon, you would get 16 bonus points, 2 points for every win Abingdon has. If you lose to Abingdon you get 8 bonus points, 1 point for every win Abingdon has.) Now, if we take Marion for example, they are scheduled to play George Wythe and Grayson County, both of whom were scheduled to play, and likely would have beaten, Bland. That means that there will be one fewer victory for Grayson County and GW, meaning fewer bonus point for Marion. But it also increases the value of bonus points received from your other opponents. When you play 10 games each bonus point is worth 0.10. When you play 9 games they are worth 0.11. Just a fraction of a difference but enough to put you ahead of another school. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Cats 472 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 1:01 AM, Ryan4VT said: They could always go about it the way Bluefield did a few years back when they played Graham twice in the same season. That was back in 2005, I just looked it up. What were the circumstances behind them playing twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_fan 91 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, V-Cats said: That was back in 2005, I just looked it up. What were the circumstances behind them playing twice? Neither school could find a 10th game that year Edit that, Bluefield only had 8 games scheduled, adding a 2nd game with Graham gave them 9 games. V-Cats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrforshey 27 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Call Tug Valley WV They need a 11/1 or 11/8 game or Could open up a 10/11 date by moving a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,261 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 hours ago, edrforshey said: Call Tug Valley WV They need a 11/1 or 11/8 game or Could open up a 10/11 date by moving a game Do you know how far it is from Wytheville to Williamson, West Virginia? Lmao. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, swva_havok_fan said: Do you know how far it is from Wytheville to Williamson, West Virginia? Lmao. Tug Valley isn't in Williamson...it's further... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, swva_havok_fan said: Do you know how far it is from Wytheville to Williamson, West Virginia? Lmao. Do you know how far it is from Auburn to Hurley? From Buchanan to Hillsville ?? Lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, VHSLhelper said: Do you know how far it is from Auburn to Hurley? From Buchanan to Hillsville ?? Lmao. (1) It’s actually 15 minutes shorter, and not over terrible roads. (2) It’s actually 45 minutes shorter, most of which is interstate and not curvy, broken down roads. You kinda made his point there. “LMAO”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, UVAObserver said: (1) It’s actually 15 minutes shorter, and not over terrible roads. (2) It’s actually 45 minutes shorter, most of which is interstate and not curvy, broken down roads. You kinda made his point there. “LMAO”. ummm... no, you made mine. Hurley to ANYWHERE is NOT over terrible roads????? 15 minutes shorter when talking 3 hours is nothing, LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 According to Google Maps...the shortest, fastest way... GW-TV 3:17 164 miles HHS-AHS 2:47 148 miles JRHS-CCHS 1:40 98 miles Bluefield High School to Wheeling Island Stadium 4:21 285 miles...went ahead and put this here since they go so often...plus you have to go through either Ohio or Pennsylvania to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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