oldfool 98 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, stu_bean said: Out of curiosity how does 2B do it? I thought they all did the same. For that matter anybody know about 2C? 2C goes by top 4 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, oldfool said: 2C goes by top 4 this year. If referring to the point ratings, that would make sense and would be fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfool 98 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, stu_bean said: If referring to the point ratings, that would make sense and would be fine with that. Yes top 4 in power points goes to playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,533 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just for the sake of an example. Im not saying this is how it will end up. Will someone break this down so a 2nd grader can understand it? As of now the top 4 in our region are 1.Graham 2. Union 3. Tazewell 4. Wise If the playoffs started today 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfool 98 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Mountain Football said: Just for the sake of an example. Im not saying this is how it will end up. Will someone break this down so a 2nd grader can understand it? As of now the top 4 in our region are 1.Graham 2. Union 3. Tazewell 4. Wise If the playoffs started today 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3?? Normally in the past yes. Mountain Football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiefan4life 2 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just seen this is this correct....i thought if tazewell beats Graham and Richlands upsets the G- men would they still be in the playoffs...Because that would be 2 district losses for the G-men and Richlands would only have 1 district loss if they can win out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Hokiefan4life said: Just seen this is this correct....i thought if tazewell beats Graham and Richlands upsets the G- men would they still be in the playoffs...Because that would be 2 district losses for the G-men and Richlands would only have 1 district loss if they can win out... That's the way I understand it to be. And it's the way the Richlands coaching staff understands it after a call with region officials. They stand by the fact that the first game (non-district for SWD and vs. Abingdon for M7) won't count. If that is truly the case -- then Graham can still miss if they lose their last two games. The really wild scenario is if Graham beats Tazewell and Richlands beats Graham -- then you have a 4-1 3-way tie at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiefan4life 2 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Ryan4VT said: That's the way I understand it to be. And it's the way the Richlands coaching staff understands it after a call with region officials. They stand by the fact that the first game (non-district for SWD and vs. Abingdon for M7) won't count. If that is truly the case -- then Graham can still miss if they lose their last two games. The really wild scenario is if Graham beats Tazewell and Richlands beats Graham -- then you have a 4-1 3-way tie at the top. Yea that would be a ❤ breaker if they finish in a 3 way tie for one of the team's if they draw from a hat. Especially the g-men if they miss out with 1 loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hokiefan4life said: Yea that would be a ❤ breaker if they finish in a 3 way tie for one of the team's if they draw from a hat. Especially the g-men if they miss out with 1 loss Apparently they would also draw with any M7 teams that finished 4-1, too. It's the top 4 teams regardless of district. So if you have 6 4-1 teams, 2 of them won't make it. Would be wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 I just wish that Region D would put out a statement to clarify, because Richlands’s understanding is at odds with the understanding from multiple others around the Region. It likely won’t matter, but if it turned out to matter, it could get awfully ugly. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just a few scenarios base on the Abingdon and OOD games NOT counting. Everyone splits and only has 1 loss. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 2.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Union 4-1 93 18.6 5.) Ridgeview 3-1 73 18.25 6.) Central-Wise 3-1 72 18 I fully expect Central to defeat Union, and if Ridgeview does too. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Central-Wise 4-0 86 21.5 2.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 5.) Ridgeview 3-1 72 18 6.) Union 3-2 79 15.8 And if Union defeats Ridgeview. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Central-Wise 4-0 86 21.5 2.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 5.) Union 4-1 92 18.4 6.) Battle, John 2-1 48 16 At this point, if you have 2 losses, you're out. Realistically, only Tazewell is assured a playoff spot, unless they are MAJORLY upset by VaHigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: Just a few scenarios base on the Abingdon and OOD games NOT counting. Everyone splits and only has 1 loss. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 2.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Union 4-1 93 18.6 5.) Ridgeview 3-1 73 18.25 6.) Central-Wise 3-1 72 18 I fully expect Central to defeat Union, and if Ridgeview does too. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Central-Wise 4-0 86 21.5 2.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 5.) Ridgeview 3-1 72 18 6.) Union 3-2 79 15.8 And if Union defeats Ridgeview. Rank Team Record Points Rating 1.) Central-Wise 4-0 86 21.5 2.) Graham 4-1 96 19.2 3.) Richlands 4-1 96 19.2 4.) Tazewell 4-1 96 19.2 5.) Union 4-1 92 18.4 6.) Battle, John 2-1 48 16 At this point, if you have 2 losses, you're out. Realistically, only Tazewell is assured a playoff spot, unless they are MAJORLY upset by VaHigh. I appreciate that analysis immensely. I’m not sure that a 3-way split in the SWD is the likeliest outcome. I think it’s more likely that either Graham or Tazewell end up at 5-0 and the other ends up at 4-1 (with Richlands at 3-2). Especially with the Battle cancellations, that has huge ramifications in the district standings if Power Points are indeed the standard. Union_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counts 156 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, UVAObserver said: I appreciate that analysis immensely. I’m not sure that a 3-way split in the SWD is the likeliest outcome. I think it’s more likely that either Graham or Tazewell end up at 5-0 and the other ends up at 4-1 (with Richlands at 3-2). Especially with the Battle cancellations, that has huge ramifications in the district standings if Power Points are indeed the standard. With that many 1 loss teams I am not sure the Battle game would not end up counting as a forfeit as it not only hurts RV and Central but Union in loss of possible rider points Personally if there are that many 1 loss teams i would not mind seeing the region let in 6 teams 2 teams get a bi 1st Game on Wed 2nd game the following Monday then Championship Saturday (Because drawing teams from a hat is a smack in the face for whoever is left out) Probably not going to happen that way Warriors_XO and Gridiron60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Hater 276 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 From my source who is a VHSL Ref. Region D is taking the top 2 teams from each district not just the top 4 overall. But that's just my source. So say Richlands outpoints Union and Ridgeview but finished 3rd in the SWD Richlands would still not make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, UNION'S HAMMER said: From my source who is a VHSL Ref. Region D is taking the top 2 teams from each district not just the top 4 overall. But that's just my source. So say Richlands outpoints Union and Ridgeview but finished 3rd in the SWD Richlands would still not make it. To me that makes the most sense and is the logical way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 hours ago, UVAObserver said: I just wish that Region D would put out a statement to clarify, because Richlands’s understanding is at odds with the understanding from multiple others around the Region. It likely won’t matter, but if it turned out to matter, it could get awfully ugly. #this if teams went into that first game thinking it counted then the rules were changed, that’s not good. No clear written statement from Region D officials at this point in the season isn’t good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Looking at the current ratings just released, is 2A even playing??? Nottoway 2 2A James River 1 0 0 1 0 0 22.00000 King William 2 2A Tidewater 3 0 0 1 0 0 19.33333 Randolph-Henry 2 2A James River 1 0 0 1 0 0 18.00000 Amelia Co. 2 2A James River 2 2 0 1 2 0 14.00000 Poquoson 2 2A Bay Rivers 1 2 0 1 2 0 13.00000 Bruton 2 2A Bay Rivers 0 2 0 0 2 0 10.00000 Windsor 2 2A Tri-Rivers 0 2 0 0 1 0 8.50000 Arcadia 2 2A Eastern Shore-A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00000 Nandua 2 2A Eastern Shore-A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 23 hours ago, Gridiron60 said: #this if teams went into that first game thinking it counted then the rules were changed, that’s not good. No clear written statement from Region D officials at this point in the season isn’t good either. I’m now all but certain that the SWD +1’s and the M7 vs Abingdon do not count. There’s still some difference of opinion on if it’s the top 2 per region or just the top 4 overall, but those games won’t count. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfool 98 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 One thing is certain, we will know in less than two weeks! Gridiron60 and Union_Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, oldfool said: One thing is certain, we will know in less than two weeks! We can hope at least 🤷🏻 oldfool and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTrot 180 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 5:00 PM, UNION'S HAMMER said: From my source who is a VHSL Ref. Region D is taking the top 2 teams from each district not just the top 4 overall. But that's just my source. So say Richlands outpoints Union and Ridgeview but finished 3rd in the SWD Richlands would still not make it. The Region D athletic directors voted on this before the season. It is the top 4 teams out of the region, regardless of district. Feel free to ask your school athletic directors. It is also of understanding that the 1st Graham vs. Richlands game didn’t count in terms fully of points in the region. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokies1977 13 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 If Richlands beats graham they make the playoffs but what if they lose to Graham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hokies1977 said: If Richlands beats graham they make the playoffs but what if they lose to Graham? They don’t??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Hokies1977 said: If Richlands beats graham they make the playoffs but what if they lose to Graham? Richlands only chance at a potential playoff bid is a win over Graham. And even then — it’s not entirely guaranteed I don’t believe. Now if Tazewell beats Graham on Saturday — then next week would basically be a play-in game in Bluefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,742 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 11:26 AM, Counts said: With that many 1 loss teams I am not sure the Battle game would not end up counting as a forfeit as it not only hurts RV and Central but Union in loss of possible rider points Battles refusal to make up the Central and Ridgeview games(even on their bye week) screws the district in terms of seeding via rider points. Complete bs. Its a weak move by the Trojans. Warriors_XO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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