SWVAgridiron Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 Giles falls to 0-4 after losing 28-7 to Grayson. This is the first 0-4 start since 1976. Oldindian444 1 Quote
GilesBandanaMan Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 This was my concern after Radford game. I loved the effort and intensity, but we've had occasional flashes of that before the last 5 years, but unable to replicate it for the next game, or much less 3 games in a row, and much less than that, an entire season. What happened in the Radford vs Giles game was two fold. Yes, Radford is down by last years standards no question, but they were raw and young. We seen that with the GW loss. The talent on the field at Radford was noticeable and it was clear Radford in game 10 was going to be a bit different than Radford early in the season and I still believe that. Our game with Radford wasn't about Giles "Being Back" and Radford being as down as most thought. Radford IS down, but not by the levels many thought they were when we played them. The actual answer as to why we played Radford so close was that we played completely out of our minds (which is a credit to intensity). Giles just played a game above its normal level of play, and that is evident by our results After the Radford game. Tough football year with the Spartans and Hokies. It's a tough one. Only thing we can do now for the Bandana Bunch to make ourselves hopefully feel better is to schedule Richlands and may the better team get a victory on the season. I don't even know if we will beat Fort Chiswell at this point. I think we will, but I'm not sure. Quote
NotJustin23 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 With East Mont coming up at least they won't start 0-5..... Quote
Real Sasquatch Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 15 hours ago, SWVAgridiron said: Giles falls to 0-4 after losing 28-7 to Grayson. This is the first 0-4 start since 1976. Not history if it has happened before. But it is certainly hard for Spartan fans, I'm sure. It can only get better and I'm sure the kids are putting forth their best effort to get back to their winning ways Quote
60minuteMan Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 16 hours ago, SWVAgridiron said: Giles falls to 0-4 after losing 28-7 to Grayson. This is the first 0-4 start since 1976. Our Boy transformed from the next coming of Steve Ragsdale to the resurrection of Roy Bayless. A few still don't want to admit that, but numbers don't lie. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 25 minutes ago, 60minuteMan said: Our Boy transformed from the next coming of Steve Ragsdale to the resurrection of Roy Bayless. A few still don't want to admit that, but numbers don't lie. There is no next Steve ragsdale....never will be Quote
NotJustin23 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Real Sasquatch said: Not history if it has happened before. But it is certainly hard for Spartan fans, I'm sure. It can only get better and I'm sure the kids are putting forth their best effort to get back to their winning ways One season with a winning record since 2018 kinda conditions folks to accept it. No longer a winning culture. Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 Nope we aren't....had a great run though with 4 titles...down now for sure Quote
jarhead24219 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 Just a question, do you think a new type offence would help? Seems to me a kid that could, or should go to Giles that was gifted with speed or a great arm to throw may shy away from Giles if other schools were a option? Quote
60minuteMan Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, jarhead24219 said: Just a question, do you think a new type offence would help? Seems to me a kid that could, or should go to Giles that was gifted with speed or a great arm to throw may shy away from Giles if other schools were a option? don't know of any that left Giles for that reason. A couple others that fit that description, came to Giles that could of played elsewhere. Ever heard of Ricky Cook or Brian Mann? NotJustin23 1 Quote
nrv_football Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 Next season won't be any better I would assume? The winning culture died out after that last state championship. Not completely about having players with exceptional athletic abilities but more about developing what you have and clearly the coaching staff is not doing that. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted October 2, 2024 Report Posted October 2, 2024 It died out after Beidleman graduated Quote
jarhead24219 Posted October 3, 2024 Report Posted October 3, 2024 5 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: It died out after Beidleman graduated I never watched this kid until the all star game at UVa at Wise. He was all over the field, great athlete Quote
NotJustin23 Posted October 3, 2024 Report Posted October 3, 2024 6 hours ago, nrv_football said: Next season won't be any better I would assume? The winning culture died out after that last state championship. Not completely about having players with exceptional athletic abilities but more about developing what you have and clearly the coaching staff is not doing that. It genuinely takes a program a few years to either die or excel after losing a head coach. That state championship team was already in the system when Ragsdale retired and the success continued. Once they graduated, it was a downhill spiral to where we are today. Ive read 100 comments on here over the last several years that "once this freshman, sophomore, 8th grade class, etc etc etc get to varsity Giles is back!!!" But guess what? It's never came to fruition. There's 100% a reason for that. Giles has had a lot of recent success in little league, middle school, j.v. whatever but doesn't translate to varsity. Those are just straight facts! Like it or not there's clearly something either happening or not happening that doesn't translate success at the varsity level. Giles football hasn't been this consistently non competitive in 40 plus years. Quote
NotJustin23 Posted October 3, 2024 Report Posted October 3, 2024 8 hours ago, jarhead24219 said: Just a question, do you think a new type offence would help? Seems to me a kid that could, or should go to Giles that was gifted with speed or a great arm to throw may shy away from Giles if other schools were a option? Absolutely not. That single wing offense is why there are 4 state championship rocks on that field. Giles didn't have the most talented teams probably in the state those years but were very well coached and had grit and determination instilled in them. I'm a different offense, I'm not sure Giles would have had that type of success for so long. It's almost impossible to defend the way the former coach ran it. Giles probably doesn't have the overall talent to do great things consistently in a modern offense but they did when they mastered that offense. The single wing still winning championships all across the country but just not at Giles unfortunately. It's not an offensive issue. Single wing team scored like 70 in the West Virginia 4a state semi finals last year against Princeton which was close and probably a lot of y'all on this thread watched. Quote
Dodgers Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 On 10/2/2024 at 11:41 AM, NotJustin23 said: With East Mont coming up at least they won't start 0-5..... I can't believe how bad East Mont has become on a yearly basis. They have a low enrollment which doesn't help. Quote
SW_VA_boy Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Dodgers said: I can't believe how bad East Mont has become on a yearly basis. They have a low enrollment which doesn't help. Never been a football school going back the Shawsville days. Enrollment is almost the same as Narrows. Same problem many a school has had around here of not having the culture from the first grades of Little League upward. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Dodgers Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 I remenber them playing Riverheads in the state championship game awhile back. I guess thats why I thought the program would be in better shape than it is. Yes for the enrollment of Narrows they have been on a very successful run for awhile now. Holston reminds me of another small school which has been successful for the most part of the past two decades. Holston will struggle mightily after this year though. Quote
GilesBandanaMan Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 9 hours ago, Dodgers said: I can't believe how bad East Mont has become on a yearly basis. They have a low enrollment which doesn't help. Think Auburn and Blacksburg. Lots of money/Va Tech Professor Money/Technical jobs Money that have moved in Auburn and Shawsville. Many of these with left of center ideologies (I'm not saying or arguing for or against that either). I'm simply saying many with a left of center ideology often leans to the CTE prevention stuff/kids not playing football/preference for Tennis, Soccer, etc. Again, don't want to argue about who is right or wrong as there's no purpose for that on here. I'm just giving you one of the explanations for East Mont. downturn, and you add the above to East Montgomery who has Class 1 numbers, it's not like a Class 4 Blacksburg that has the size to somewhat overcome this. It's closer akin to Auburn where football is just nearly non-existent or an afterthought. nrv_football, Dodgers and NotJustin23 3 Quote
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