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10 hours ago, Union_Fan said:
The best I can find, targeting in and of itself is a 15 yard penalty only unless it is deemed flagrant. At that point a player can be "disqualified" from the game. Apparently, "ejection" is not a term that is used in NFHS rules.
Anywho, a player that has been disqualified is also disqualified for the next contest unless the disqualification is for fighting. That produces a 2 game disqualification unless reversed on appeal.
Correct. Common misunderstanding made by fans AND players is they think targeting in HS results in ejection. We do not have the benefit of replay (yet, and man I dread when we do, only because of how long games would drag) so targeting is penalized the same as any other live ball personal foul. We do our best to use preventative officiating to address these fouls. I've called 3 at the HS level, two on obvious ear holes on the sideline, and one on a back who lowered his head to use the crown of his helmet to plow a DB when he was obviously going OB. It's going to have to have to be obvious to 5 visually impaired people in the top row for most of us to call it flagrant. What I ask myself is "Was this hit truly avoidable?"
The only usual DQ's at this level are for fighting and earning two unsportsmanlike fouls in the same game.
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Shew, after reading this I am more relieved than ever to have gotten pulled off of a game involving a KY team as a wing official in a few weeks and making my debut as a white hat with a piece meal crew. It's no fun to have an out of state sideline in our coverage area. I will normally stand up for my fellow zebras, However, I've seen film from games in WV and KY that make me CRINGEEEEEE. God bless y'll.
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42 minutes ago, swva_havok_fan said:
I bet eating there must feel great after a "chip in bogey" on the 18th? See what I did there? 😄
I'm usually drinking my dinner if i play that well. I'm normally a buffalo chicken wrap at the turn kinda guy anyways.
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Don't sleep on GW Clisso's restaurant at the Country Club, and you do not have to be a member to eat there. It's very reasonably priced and the food is outstanding. I've never had anything but a great experience there. Usually on Friday and Saturday night he has a buffet and salad bar along with menu items available. He has a line of salad dressings that are available locally that are AMAZING. If my crew was going to be in BSG, that's where I'd plan our pre-game meal would be.
- big ugly vol and 1inStripes
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6 hours ago, Grapeape said:
I don’t know whether to go to Lebanon or go watch Graham play Northwood & Twin Springs.
For the sake of all 3 programs, I really hope this is either deep sarcasm, or Graham is sending their JV squads. No offense to either Twin Springs or Northwood, but I do not see this preparing Graham for Beaver next week or TS and Northwood getting that much better by agreeing to this. I get the POV from them wanting to play tougher competition, but if I had small numbers, I would maybe find someone else or just play a benefit game against each other.
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I don't really care one way or the other either, but we need to look at this from the assumption they'll be traveling by school bus. I know a lot of districts have governors on their buses but, I am not sure at what rate(55 or 65) and the speed limit on 77 and 81 in VA is 70. Also, keep in mind that a bus does not handle like a passenger car. That's where the mountain roads will add more time too.
FWIW, I will buy anyone a Frosty if they can make it from Hurley High School to Auburn High School in 2:47 driving a school bus. It takes every bit of an 1:20 in a car running the speed limit to get to 77 from Grundy(middle of town) after traffic lights and the bipolar speed limit changes on 460. And from that same spot in Grundy in a car, the best you can do to HHS is going to be around that 30 minutes if you don't get hung behind a slow poke, school bus, coal truck, side by side, or horse. Yeah, I've been stuck behind everyone of them at some point in time heading to Hurley. Sometimes a combination of the 5. Hurley's wild ya'll.
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We’re not even out of dead week and this is already a topic, really? Most schools usually don’t know what they’re REALLY working with until two a days start.
- Real Sasquatch, GMan and Falcon Mania
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Are those the 2019 lids on their Twitter avatar? I'm normally a traditionalist with helmets and uni's but, THOSE ARE AWESOME.
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10 minutes ago, Grapeape said:
North is closing. Coach Patrick might be a HC in 2020, but it won’t be his current post. Additionally, Scott County Schools’ compensation is quite a bit higher than Sullivan County’s. You guys shouldn’t spend so much time being upset over GC; we don’t think of you at all.
You do bring up a very valid point in North closing, but remember, Tennessee has no state income tax. That could offset the perceived higher salary in VA vs TN.
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55 minutes ago, #BBN said:
chipinbogey, anyway you can find out where they are playing the Region 1D tournament game at tomorrow against Rye Cove?
According to my sources, the varsity has been playing at the Enoch's Branch field. Coming into Grundy on 460 West, you'll follow that into town, and pass by Walmart. At the next light, the intersection is Rt. 83. Go right to head up Slate Creek, and follow it until you pass BGH, Y, and the high school. From there it is no more than 1.5 miles to the turn off. You will see an Exxon station on your left, and the next left you can make will be Enoch's Branch with a sign for the fields. I would take my time going up the mountain from there as the road is very narrow with a lot of blind spots in curves.
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3 hours ago, #BBN said:
Where does Grundy play softball at? Is it at their high school?
There is a softball field up at Enoch's Branch, which is on up 83 a little ways from the high school, then all the way to the top of the mountain. That is where the baseball field is as well.
There is also a super nice baseball/softball complex up at Poplar Gap or Southern Gap depending on who you talk to, and surprise surprise, it's on top of a mountain(or reclaim) in this case too. I believe that softball has been playing up there this season, but cannot be 100% sure without a phone call or two.
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I predict the officiating corps will be stretched to it's limits once again. Fans on Twitter will skewer them at any opportunity with blanket statements for an entire association and/or state.
The AOA is trying to be more proactive in recruiting officials for ALL sports. This is not just a local issue but, a national one as I am sure most of you are aware by now.
For the football association, the average age is somewhere between 50 and 60. We need younger blood before the numbers game gets any worse.
If you or anyone you know has even the slightest interest in officiating, we need to talk with them.
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29 minutes ago, 1inStripes said:
Thats somewhat of an overstatement given some of the other threads regarding coaching changes in the area.
CONFIRMED: AKERS TO CASTLEWOOD! 😂
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Maybe it'll get moved from Emory to Northwood at the last minute. That seems to be the trend this year.
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Well the North does like to exaggerate. Simply going off of my experiences with their alumni and how it has been portrayed to me. It's kind of like how WVU has a very large makeup of kids from Jersey, Elon has the same thing with Tri-State trust fund babies and the like.
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6 hours ago, Ryan4VT said:
Wofford lost a LOT this year. So I think he would have found playing time.
Also, he could have selected Elon for the amazing academic purposes vs. athletics.
^^^^ This times 1000. Elon is considered a Southern Ivy League school by a large majority of the North. A ton of well to do donors and a huge endowment for academics.
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Outside of JSB, how many other HC jobs are left unfilled? I just cannot imagine being a kid in one of these programs with May starting tomorrow, not knowing who was leading their team in July. However, Abingdon hired Amburgey when two a days started and that seemed to work out well, but I think that was just an extremely fortunate case of right place, right time, right team.
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Oh to be a fan again. I report next Friday morning for my first college scrimmage of spring ball, have a clinic to attend Saturday, and two more preseason clinics already on the calendar paid for with rooms booked. VHSL stuff usually won't start up until the end of July, but if you pull double duty like me, you literally get about 2 months away from football. I'm not complaining though, just providing some insight to those that are not aware of the work and sacrifice that goes into our avocation as officials. Remember, we don't drop out of the sky on Friday's and Saturday's.
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They had 6? last Saturday at Lee. At Battle they were down to 4.
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17 hours ago, Hokie1Pokie said:
Well, I got me a little flask just in case it gets to cold, or we lose, or now that I think about, if we win, the flask will be empty by the end of the fourth. I'm more worried about a pat down. Real men don't carry their flasks in a bag, they carry their flasks in their groin in order not to be caught at the gate, and in order to not have to share with anyone else.
Genius men line baseball socks with airplane bottles encircling their calves and do not have to worry about sharing because you literally have almost snuck a fifth in if you do it right. I may or may not know from experience.
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Something to consider, December 15th is a big day of sports at UVA Wise with the All Star game, and a 30 team wrestling tournament going on at the Convocation Center. Parking may or may not be an issue. Either way, that is GREAT for the economy of Wise County and the student-athletes of Southwest Virginia. I for one will be back and forth between the two events.
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2 hours ago, SWVAgridiron said:
Yea cowbells, air horns, etc are allowed any other time at Salem Stadium, just not at the state game.
Unless there are so many cowbells that the stadium simply does not have the staff to confiscate them. I'm not saying a mob mentality works all the time, but we see how far the SEC got at Miss State with getting them taken. There is 0% chance that the on-field crew will call any sort of unsportsmanlike foul because of cowbells.
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True, this is where I use preventative officiating if it is borderline. Usually I just remind the player, see what you're hitting and assure them I am just looking out for their well being. I am seeing fewer of these in the course of actual play at all levels, and the game is getting safer in my opinion. I get what you're saying, but I cringe when I see any of them lead with the crown. I do not like to call them because it is soooooo subjective. Out of the other side of my mouth, I like to err on the side of caution and if it's close go ahead and throw it if it's close.