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Sorry, but a former Salem player who participated in that game made a statement to  me that when Coach White was informed that the cleats had been purchased by Richlands, by a close Salem supporter, he made sure Salem had the same.  If I'm wrong about his statement then I'm wrong, but it was said.  I don't think a 1/16 in. would have made any difference in that game. Salem was out powered on the LOS and couldn't stop Richlands.  I think Richlands would have won even if they were wearing flip flops.  Biased or not, Richlands won.

How soon we forget when Richlands was accused of recruiting during their good run, especially with the Johnson's, and who knows maybe they did, but some of the stuff that was said has now come home to roost with the very ones that said it.  It's odd how the times have changed, when back then everyone wanted the head of coach Mance on a silver platter for so called recruiting, but now that the shoe is on someone else's foot, it's not that big of a deal.  Who cares if every coach is recruiting, and I suspect they all do to a certain degree.  Players cannot change schools without the parent or guardian consent, so why blame the players.  By the way, why even blame the coaches, most often the parents are contacting them.  Who doesn't want their child to be on a winning team, Duh!  As a Richlands fan, right now I wouldn't blame any player for wanting to transfer with the shape the program is in, and appears to be getting worse.  As long as Daddyball is in action, it's going to be running down hill like a fast moving freight train with no brakeman.  IMO and we all have one.  

Would like to take the opportunity to wish everyone on the board a blessed Christmas and a very happy New Year.  Don't always agree with everyone, but always enjoy the back and forth and just clean fun on this board.  Thank God for each and everyone of you who post!!

Would like to take the opportunity to wish everyone on the board a blessed Christmas and a very happy New Year.  Don't always agree with everyone, but always enjoy the back and forth and just clean fun on this board.  Thank God for each and everyone of you who post!!

I've heard the same rumor, but even if it is itching, I'll not scratch it.

It doesn't matter how I feel, it's just a game.  I'm an old fart that loves football and it doesn't matter to me who wins or looses.  I think we all have our favorite team, but I learned a long time ago not to get upset over a game.  Anyway, yeah you're right flip flops were comical, always had a hard time keeping them on my feet.  Just having fun during the off season and love chatting with guys on the board with a sense of humor, lord knows we need it in this day and time.  thanks for the comments.

Sorry, but a former Salem player who participated in that game made a statement to  me that when Coach White was informed that the cleats had been purchased by Richlands, by a close Salem supporter, he made sure Salem had the same.  If I'm wrong about his statement then I'm wrong, but it was said.  I don't think a 1/16 in. would have made any difference in that game. Salem was out powered on the LOS and couldn't stop Richlands.  I think Richlands would have won even if they were wearing flip flops.  Biased or not, Richlands won.

On Richlands and Salem, I was there.  I have never in my life heard that Salem also had illegal cleats as well. This is a first in 30 years.  I will say this though, and it's a little fact few ever discuss.  Yes, the field was wet, but the mud was between the 30's, from the 30 yd line to the 30 yd line and over to the hashes, (40 yds total) but the other 60 yds of the field was simply wet grass, and when Salem had the ball and Richlands had the ball in these 60 yds of the field, Richlands also bested em on the line of scrimmage.  But, does longer cleats effect performance on wet grass and not mud?  I have no clue.  
What Vault did was IGNORANT, period.  There is no excuse for "not knowing," if he truly didn't know.  That decision led to a discussion 1/3rd of a century later around Christmas, so you tell me if the decision was boneheaded or not?  It was boneheaded.  Salem has always been tough and those teams back then were tough, but the team that once did beat them straight up and I mean pulverized them 2 or 3 years before that Richlands game was Lee High down at Lee.  I think it was 26-8 Lee, but it was worse than the score.  They physically beat up Salem and that just rarely, very rarely ever occured back then.  

Yes, Lee pounded them that game.  It was never close.  

Hey, just want to wish everyone the Merriest Christmas ever.  Be safe out there and enjoy the time we have with family and friends.

It doesn't matter how I feel, it's just a game.  I'm an old fart that loves football and it doesn't matter to me who wins or looses.  I think we all have our favorite team, but I learned a long time ago not to get upset over a game.  Anyway, yeah you're right flip flops were comical, always had a hard time keeping them on my feet.  Just having fun during the off season and love chatting with guys on the board with a sense of humor, lord knows we need it in this day and time.  thanks for the comments.

You are correct, that did happen, and some of us True Blue fans shoveled snow from the bleachers before the game, it was fun times.

Sorry, but a former Salem player who participated in that game made a statement to  me that when Coach White was informed that the cleats had been purchased by Richlands, by a close Salem supporter, he made sure Salem had the same.  If I'm wrong about his statement then I'm wrong, but it was said.  I don't think a 1/16 in. would have made any difference in that game. Salem was out powered on the LOS and couldn't stop Richlands.  I think Richlands would have won even if they were wearing flip flops.  Biased or not, Richlands won.

Wait, is Tony Palmer bringing Dennis Vaught on staff? Is that the change in coaching at Graham someone mentioned 😂😂😂? 

May the light of Christ fill your heart and mind as you celebrate his birth. Merry Christmas! 

Merry Christmas to you all!

Merry Christmas to all you dear people! We disagree sometimes but it's just family disagreeing with family! Remember the true reason for the holiday!

🎄 Merry Christmas to all!  Feliz Navidad! 🎄 Enjoy every moment as if it is your last fir no one is promised another.
All try to stay warm and this weekend as it looks to freeze all your parts off if you go outside for long

Merry Christmas ya filthy animals!!!  
Seriously though, spend as much time with the people you love because you never know if you'll be able to do it again.

Hey, just want to wish everyone the Merriest Christmas ever.  Be safe out there and enjoy the time we have with family and friends.

How soon we forget when Richlands was accused of recruiting during their good run, especially with the Johnson's, and who knows maybe they did, but some of the stuff that was said has now come home to roost with the very ones that said it.  It's odd how the times have changed, when back then everyone wanted the head of coach Mance on a silver platter for so called recruiting, but now that the shoe is on someone else's foot, it's not that big of a deal.  Who cares if every coach is recruiting, and I suspect they all do to a certain degree.  Players cannot change schools without the parent or guardian consent, so why blame the players.  By the way, why even blame the coaches, most often the parents are contacting them.  Who doesn't want their child to be on a winning team, Duh!  As a Richlands fan, right now I wouldn't blame any player for wanting to transfer with the shape the program is in, and appears to be getting worse.  As long as Daddyball is in action, it's going to be running down hill like a fast moving freight train with no brakeman.  IMO and we all have one.  

They need to check and see if coach Willis White left those same cleats, which Salem also had on that day, at the VHSL office, you can probably pick them up for nothing now that we have turf. LOL!!!  BTW illegal cleats = 15 yard penalty for illegal equipment, called by the white cap, and the equipment has to be removed from the field.  Evidently, the white cap was so frustrated by Richlands out powering Salem that he forgot to check, or maybe, just maybe, both teams had on the same length cleats, so he let it roll.  Love the fact that you brought this into the fray. I love being a part of this board especially during the off season, we can always bring out the skeleton's and have a party. Love you guys 

Hey, just want to wish everyone the Merriest Christmas ever.  Be safe out there and enjoy the time we have with family and friends.

How soon we forget when Richlands was accused of recruiting during their good run, especially with the Johnson's, and who knows maybe they did, but some of the stuff that was said has now come home to roost with the very ones that said it.  It's odd how the times have changed, when back then everyone wanted the head of coach Mance on a silver platter for so called recruiting, but now that the shoe is on someone else's foot, it's not that big of a deal.  Who cares if every coach is recruiting, and I suspect they all do to a certain degree.  Players cannot change schools without the parent or guardian consent, so why blame the players.  By the way, why even blame the coaches, most often the parents are contacting them.  Who doesn't want their child to be on a winning team, Duh!  As a Richlands fan, right now I wouldn't blame any player for wanting to transfer with the shape the program is in, and appears to be getting worse.  As long as Daddyball is in action, it's going to be running down hill like a fast moving freight train with no brakeman.  IMO and we all have one.  

How soon we forget when Richlands was accused of recruiting during their good run, especially with the Johnson's, and who knows maybe they did, but some of the stuff that was said has now come home to roost with the very ones that said it.  It's odd how the times have changed, when back then everyone wanted the head of coach Mance on a silver platter for so called recruiting, but now that the shoe is on someone else's foot, it's not that big of a deal.  Who cares if every coach is recruiting, and I suspect they all do to a certain degree.  Players cannot change schools without the parent or guardian consent, so why blame the players.  By the way, why even blame the coaches, most often the parents are contacting them.  Who doesn't want their child to be on a winning team, Duh!  As a Richlands fan, right now I wouldn't blame any player for wanting to transfer with the shape the program is in, and appears to be getting worse.  As long as Daddyball is in action, it's going to be running down hill like a fast moving freight train with no brakeman.  IMO and we all have one.