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I refuse to believe that one year of good coaching and playing against better competition (deep playoff competition) really improves a players stock. I just don't see it. If you're a stud then you're a stud, plain and simple.
 
I completely understand moving to a school with a better program, but it needs to be done before high school. Once you make a commitment, own it.

And some do a fake move....
 
There are rules in place, that, if enforced, would stop this from happening and cause schools to be on probation and coaches to be fired. Problem is you have to have some pretty concrete evidence for the VHSL to do anything about it.  
 
I'm already hearing rumors of kids transferring here and there....

Maybe you should let him announce that.

I remember plenty of them..... Geeze I"m old.

This is the Graham vs. Gate City Thread....  Take it to the Union vs. Richlands thread, otherwise known as losers bracket.
 
Graham and Gate City both WON their conference tourneys...
 
Hating what?  0 and forever in Regionals?

Martin is a good defender, but I think Cam Allen is coming into his own as of late as a very good defender also.  Martin never seems to be in foul trouble and is still able to do a pretty good job on defense.  On a side note, teams have taken Martin's scoring away from Graham in the past couple of contests, but Graham has had other guys step up.  Somebody  on this site stated that Graham only  has one or two good players.  I disagree.... Graham has one or two outstanding players and 6 or 7 good players that contribute a lot.

It would be a shock if 1 in particular didn't...

My opinion:
 
1. They don't belong in the Mid South Conference, they are way out of their league.  That is one of the best NAIA Conferences in the country, if not the best.
2.  Fans are not going to come watch them lose all of the time.
3.  Very few local athletes are recruited to play there.
4.  There is a tremendous amount of player turnover, which leads to inconsistency.
 
 
I believe they should either change conferences and start playing teams more their speed, or drop the football program altogether.  Not a lot of fan support attending these games.  
 
This community is football CRAZY.  If they are in a league in which they can be competitive and they recruit a few local athletes, attendance would be up....and they would get more "w" s.  
 
The Athletic Director and the President of the College need to get on the ball and try to turn this thing around or just drop the football program completely.  It has to be losing money for the school, there is no way that it is profitable.
 
Start recruiting kids based on athleticism and character... I won't go into details about that, just had a bad experience on campus last weekend and I'll leave it at that.
 
What does everybody think?  It's been a few years now that football has been back at Bluefield College.  I just think it could have and should have been done differently.  
 
Can they play as an independent and pick up teams more their speed?  
 

The biggest difference between examples is age. When we are parents, it's Our job to raise our children and instill values. Once they are adults, it is up to them to make the decisions. As for me, I side closer to old school blues values. It only changes when it comes to honestly moving for better opportunities, whether jobs or activities. Sometimes I may consider lamenting staying in this area for lack of opportunities, but for my children, the relationship with their grandparents trumps the greater options at this point.

Mmmmm.  What if Richlands was reeling from multiple losing seasons and their two best players or just their best player decided to transfer to Tazewell or Graham.  I already know what your reply will be.......However, some need to try on others' shoes.  Imagine that this past season Richlands had received no transfers and John-Luke and Scottie Ball decided to go to Graham.....to win state.
 
If you are a Richlands fan and say that you would be alright with that.......you are flat lying.

Yes and he sat out for 365 days because he didn't move.

My opinion:
 
1. They don't belong in the Mid South Conference, they are way out of their league.  That is one of the best NAIA Conferences in the country, if not the best.
2.  Fans are not going to come watch them lose all of the time.
3.  Very few local athletes are recruited to play there.
4.  There is a tremendous amount of player turnover, which leads to inconsistency.
 
 
I believe they should either change conferences and start playing teams more their speed, or drop the football program altogether.  Not a lot of fan support attending these games.  
 
This community is football CRAZY.  If they are in a league in which they can be competitive and they recruit a few local athletes, attendance would be up....and they would get more "w" s.  
 
The Athletic Director and the President of the College need to get on the ball and try to turn this thing around or just drop the football program completely.  It has to be losing money for the school, there is no way that it is profitable.
 
Start recruiting kids based on athleticism and character... I won't go into details about that, just had a bad experience on campus last weekend and I'll leave it at that.
 
What does everybody think?  It's been a few years now that football has been back at Bluefield College.  I just think it could have and should have been done differently.  
 
Can they play as an independent and pick up teams more their speed?  
 

Heckuva first post.

He wasn't in the paint.....either time.  Hard fouls do happen, by people who can't play basketball... 
 
He didn't cry about it,  he just got up and torched Richlands for 30 Plus points.  In fact he had more points then Richlands' entire team before they took him out in the fourth quarter.  Doesn't look like crying to me.  

Only 11 can play at once...... so bring it.
 
On a side note, if you're gonna get transfers....can you at least get them from somewhere like Union or Gate City???   It's hard to tell how good these Hurley boys with their level of competition.

They should be.  In both contests he was fouled very hard and intentionally.  In the first contest, it was right out of the gate when the 2nd half started.  Carlock was irate in the last game over it and he should have been.  I could not believe that the kid was not ejected or not even called for an intentional foul.  I'm starting to wonder if the kids were told to foul him hard in the locker room.  Very disappointed in how those situations were handled, no message was sent to those kids who made those fouls.

I had a couple tell me that they would beat Graham by 30 before the game and I just bit my lip.  Graham whipped their senior laden team with freshmen, sophomores and juniors....
 
As for the first game, Graham was impatient and took jump shots, rather than being patient and waiting until something came open.  

They should be.  In both contests he was fouled very hard and intentionally.  In the first contest, it was right out of the gate when the 2nd half started.  Carlock was irate in the last game over it and he should have been.  I could not believe that the kid was not ejected or not even called for an intentional foul.  I'm starting to wonder if the kids were told to foul him hard in the locker room.  Very disappointed in how those situations were handled, no message was sent to those kids who made those fouls.

I hate to burst everyone's bubble from Richlands but I came down from Tech with a friend of mine to watch this much talked about matchup with him.
I am from the New River Valley and have never seen a Richlands Graham game
Here were my takes on it:
 
1. Graham would beat Richlands right now 15 out of 20 times. The other five times they would be resting their best players.
2. Graham has the best student body this side of Roanoke. I always thought the George Wythe "Soldiers" were the best. Not anymore.
3. The PG who had outscored Richlands by himself in the 4th qtr is hard to handle and may be bad news for anyone in the postseason. And from what the PA guy said he is a junior. Wow!
4. Richlands if they are good and if they have a dream team they played like a nightmare. I hope I never have a dream like that in my life. Just give the tourney championship to Graham. They are the best team by far.
5. The Graham beardown will continue into.the future. The JV team came back to beat Richlands in OT. Richlands should have won that one too. Graham is stacked for the future.
Not sure they could hang with Martinsville but all the other teams in the West better watch out. Even the much hyped Gate City and this Union team you talk of. If Union has any inside game at all and a good guard? Union would beat Richlands by 30. Richlands is not very good.
 
These are just my takes.

The whole idea of the first game counting sucks anyway.  If it weren't for Grayson County refusing to play everybody twice, we wouldn't be in this situation.  They are the reason for this stupid rule.  They need to either get out of the conference or play everybody twice.

Credit Graham's defense, they played very well.

Like I have said before in another post... Do away with districts and make each team play each conference opponent twice. Extra games are free for alls... add opponents that are close or tournaments. Do whatever you want to fill your schedule. Then we would not have this problem...

And Marion lol

The whole idea of the first game counting sucks anyway.  If it weren't for Grayson County refusing to play everybody twice, we wouldn't be in this situation.  They are the reason for this stupid rule.  They need to either get out of the conference or play everybody twice.

“My thing is, basically you play hard. They played very hard against us at Richlands and they deserved the win. They outplayed us that night. But you know what? They don’t give out trophies for regular season champs. The trophies are given out to the tournament champs,†said Graham head basketball coach Glynn Carlock, Jr.
 
“The trophies will be given out next Saturday night and we hope that we can get through our first two games and win a trophy on Saturday night against whoever we face,†he said.