BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So if Dan Rivers wins, regardless of rider points, Central will travel there in the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 After last night, Central has 211 points. They'll get 1 point from Union over Battle (2 pts if Battle upset Union). So, we'll say 212 points after that. If I'm looking at things right, they can get up to 8 max points from others (Eastside over Castlewood +2; Ridgeview over Honaker +2; Lebanon over Tazewell +2; Lee High over Virginia High +2. So, that would be 220-221 max. Dan River has 192 (as of now), a win over Altavista would get them up to 218. They get 4 automatic points for the Gretna/Nelson and William Campbell/Chatham games. So that's 222 without even getting the other potential points which looks to be about up to 7 possible points. DR losing to Altavista would give them 203, then +4 would be 207. Potential points from 0-7, 207-214 max. Magna Vista, Martinsville, and Appomattox will likely give them 3 more points, Tunstall and Bartlett Yancey can give them 4 more if they win. VHSL helper will have stuff like this outlined in his cheat sheets. BlueRazor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRazor 1,147 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 After last night, Central has 211 points. They'll get 1 point from Union over Battle (2 pts if Battle upset Union). So, we'll say 212 points after that. If I'm looking at things right, they can get up to 8 max points from others (Eastside over Castlewood +2; Ridgeview over Honaker +2; Lebanon over Tazewell +2; Lee High over Virginia High +2. So, that would be 220-221 max. Dan River has 192 (as of now), a win over Altavista would get them up to 218. They get 4 automatic points for the Gretna/Nelson and William Campbell/Chatham games. So that's 222 without even getting the other potential points which looks to be about up to 7 possible points. DR losing to Altavista would give them 203, then +4 would be 207. Potential points from 0-7, 207-214 max. Magna Vista, Martinsville, and Appomattox will likely give them 3 more points, Tunstall and Bartlett Yancey can give them 4 more if they win. VHSL helper will have stuff like this outlined in his cheat sheets. Very good Beamerball.....and Tech is beating Boston College also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Cats 472 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So it's fairly certain that Virginia High @ Lee is a play-in game for the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 After last night, Central has 211 points. They'll get 1 point from Union over Battle (2 pts if Battle upset Union). So, we'll say 212 points after that. If I'm looking at things right, they can get up to 8 max points from others (Eastside over Castlewood +2; Ridgeview over Honaker +2; Lebanon over Tazewell +2; Lee High over Virginia High +2. So, that would be 220-221 max. Dan River has 192 (as of now), a win over Altavista would get them up to 218. They get 4 automatic points for the Gretna/Nelson and William Campbell/Chatham games. So that's 222 without even getting the other potential points which looks to be about up to 7 possible points. DR losing to Altavista would give them 203, then +4 would be 207. Potential points from 0-7, 207-214 max. Magna Vista, Martinsville, and Appomattox will likely give them 3 more points, Tunstall and Bartlett Yancey can give them 4 more if they win. VHSL helper will have stuff like this outlined in his cheat sheets. I read one of his sites, but he has Richlands ahead of Union, and he only has Union listed with 3 conference wins. We have four at the moment, with Battle to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I read one of his sites, but he has Richlands ahead of Union, and he only has Union listed with 3 conference wins. We have four at the moment, with Battle to go. Richlands is ahead of Union in total points. What the VHSL and others list the rankings by is the average rating (total points divided by number of games played). Listing it by total number of points gives a better idea of what a team needs to/can pick up. He explains it a little below the ratings list. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Oh okay, thanks! He still needs to update the Union conference wins tho lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So it's fairly certain that Virginia High @ Lee is a play-in game for the playoffs? Not certain, the loser of that game can still get in, also GC can sneak in there IF certain games went their way (but I don't think GC can pass Lee), Randolph-Henry has a chance if they beat Nottoway. Also have to account for Ridgeview/Honaker game and Grundy still has an outside chance. The winner of the Lee/Va High should be in the playoffs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Oh okay, thanks! He still needs to update the Union conference wins tho lol No problem. I like to look at it the way he lists it, just seems easier to figure up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave316 64 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 ********************************** UNOFFICIAL 2A WEST STANDINGS************************************** This is what I have. I'll throw up some scenarios once the VHSL releases their official numbers. 1.) Union 9-0 264 29.33333333 2.) Glenvar 9-0 250 27.77777778 3.) Appomattox 9-0 246 27.33333333 4.) Richlands 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Buckingham 8-1 228 25.33333333 6.) Giles 8-1 219 24.33333333 7.) James River 7-2 197 21.88888889 8.) Dan River 6-3 192 21.33333333 9.) Central 7-3 211 21.1 10.) Grayson 6-3 176 19.55555556 11.) Graham 4-5 171 19 12.) Gretna 4-5 165 18.33333333 13.) Martinsville 3-6 165 18.33333333 14.) Lee 5-4 164 18.22222222 15.) Ridgeview 5-4 163 18.11111111 16.) Virginia High 5-4 160 17.77777778 17.) Grundy 4-6 172 17.2 18.) Gate City 3-7 172 17.2 19.) Randolph-Henry 4-5 151 16.77777778 20.) Tazewell 3-6 141 15.66666667 21.) Chatham 3-6 140 15.55555556 22.) Lebanon 2-7 129 14.33333333 23.) Floyd County 2-7 125 13.88888889 24.) Marion Senior 1-8 108 12 25.) John S. Batle 1-8 108 12 So who is right? You or Angel Fire...he has Ridgeview at 17th seed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So who is right? You or Angel Fire...he has Ridgeview at 17th seed . Look at what I posted above. Those are listed by the average rating (which is the total points divided by the number of games played). Look at the 2nd number in Union_Fan's post, that's the total number, Gate City and Grundy have more than Ridgeview in that regard. Helper lists them by the total points they have because it's easier to see the possible outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So who is right? You or Angel Fire...he has Ridgeview at 17th seed . What Beamerball said is accurate. I list by rating vs point total because that is how VHSL releases them, and that is what they go by for final rankings, BUT at that point everybody has played 10 games whereas now some teams have played 10 and most everyone else has only played 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I'm sure he can/will explain further but Helper notes that Dan River's total could change today. I assume it has to do with the Bartlett Yancey forfeit???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I'm sure he can/will explain further but Helper notes that Dan River's total could change today. I assume it has to do with the Bartlett Yancey forfeit???? That has made no sense to me. In an interview, the Yancey coach basically said they never had a contract with Dan River, yet the VHSL gave Dan River points for a forfeit when it sounds like their AD simply screwed up. But at the same time Yancey won more games than what the VHSL gave Dan River credit for. I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 But at the same time Yancey won more games than what the VHSL gave Dan River credit for. I don't get it. I think that's been a discussion in the past too, someone here can explain it further. They count one of the games as a preseason benefit game or such I think (if not then that's 11 games). If they take those points from BY away then Central has a much better chance, but DR can still get the 8th over Central with a win over Altavista. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So if Dan Rivers wins, regardless of rider points, Central will travel there in the first round? At this point, Central's only hope of getting the 8th seed is a Dan River loss next week, but they are a solid 9. I don't believe it is possible for them to go below that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercloud 179 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 What will happen with a Appomattox if they win or don't win with Amherst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I read one of his sites, but he has Richlands ahead of Union, and he only has Union listed with 3 conference wins. We have four at the moment, with Battle to go. Yep, somehow, I missed adding Union-Lee to their District records. And I only have 1 site. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The BY thing for DR won't be cleared up today - hopefully by Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Finally got the 2A West cheat sheet done. http://www.angelfire.com/va/vhsl/news.html Beamerball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 What will happen with a Appomattox if they win or don't win with Amherst. If Appo wins and all their and Union's opponents(that can) win their final game then Union and Appo will be tied for #1. No idea what the tie breaker would be. David Crockett beating BOTH their final two opponents, Tenn High and Daniel Boone, whom they haven't beaten in the last 11 and 12 attempts, respectively, was very unexpected and gave Union a boost. So, whoever has the most opponents lose next week will be #2 If Appo loses and all their and Richlands' opponents(that can) win then Union will be #1(too far ahead of Glenvar to be caught), Glenvar #2, Richlands #3, and Appo #4. So, Richlands really needs Bluefield and Va High to win next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The BY thing for DR won't be cleared up today - hopefully by Tuesday. What exactly is the deal with that? What is left to be cleared up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Yep, somehow, I missed adding Union-Lee to their District records. And I only have 1 site. Thanks for the response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercloud 179 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Tie breakers are at the bottom of angelfire page. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 If Appo wins and all their and Union's opponents(that can) win their final game then Union and Appo will be tied for #1. No idea what the tie breaker would be. David Crockett beating BOTH their final two opponents, Tenn High and Daniel Boone, whom they haven't beaten in the last 11 and 12 attempts, respectively, was very unexpected and gave Union a boost. So, whoever has the most opponents lose next week will be #2 If Appo loses and all their and Richlands' opponents(that can) win then Union will be #1(too far ahead of Glenvar to be caught), Glenvar #2, Richlands #3, and Appo #4. So, Richlands really needs Bluefield and Va High to win next week. Thats my ideal scenario. Appomattox losing and Richlands' opponents winning out, giving them the #3 seed and the Bears taking the top overall seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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