trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think it's time to get over it. Put it behind you. Perhaps Robbins could have run it or tried to punt it. Better yet, Giles could have stopped the kid who scored. If that happened then you would not be griping about it today. Some of the Giles fans were saying PV could have allowed a safety because it shows respect for the other team. If I were on the other team then I would feel disrespected because the other team let us have 2 points that we really didn't earn. Yet this is still an issue. If you can't deal with one play after 11 years then that's your own problem. I wish my life was that good. Move on. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Answer me this genius: If Phil was trying to run up the score, why would he throw a five yard slant instead of a deep bomb? Giles could not stop us all day, if he truly wanted to score at the end, he would have sent his best WR deep. The WR who caught the TD pass was the third or fourth best WR on the team, he was just lightning fast. Phil wanted to get the first down and kneel the game out instead of having to punt. If you were truly there, which I doubt, you know the conditions were terrible and it was freezing cold and punting the ball was no easy task in that weather. Phil was trying to seal the win by simply getting a first down and taking a knee. I know that for a 100% FACT. Its not his fault your boys could not tackle and let a kid score on a 85 yard slant pass. Phil had no intentions of running up the score, if he did, it would have been worse than 36-6 or whatever it was. And Giles' starters played into the second half in the blowout game, I know that for a fact. So its okay that Giles scored 40+ points on an overmatched PV team, but when PV beats Giles by 30, Phil is the worst person in the world. Your logic is weak, and you have no idea what you are talking about. In the Lee High game, yes Phil did intend to run the score up because Lee was throwing deep bombs on the JV team he put in after half time and taking cheap shots at the kids, so the starters went back in and PV scored 70 points. That did not happen at Giles. At Giles, Phil was just trying to keep the ball and run out the clock, and the little slant play happened to go for a TD. It was not planned whatsoever. Ok you dumbass answer me this....if PV punts is there any chance Giles scores 24 pts in less than 2 minutes to win the game? I haven't missed a Giles playoff game in my entire life so once again dumbass you are wrong. And you know all these FACTS? I said Giles starters played first series of 2nd half in the 2006 game didn't I? then they were pulled but you seem to know more about MY team than I do And your lovefest for Robbins is apparent....I think he is a classless lard ass...but it don't matter what either of us think. You just come on here spouting off about all the facts you seem to know and frankly you don't know crap about the Giles program....just about all you PV fans are the same(not saying all of you so people don't jump on me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Plus, PV had no rushing game at all that year, and it was 4th and 6 IIRC. We were unable to run for the first, which is why the slant was called in the first place. Yeah i'm sure that's the reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think it's time to get over it. Put it behind you. Perhaps Robbins could have run it or tried to punt it. Better yet, Giles could have stopped the kid who scored. If that happened then you would not be griping about it today. Some of the Giles fans were saying PV could have allowed a safety because it shows respect for the other team. If I were on the other team then I would feel disrespected because the other team let us have 2 points that we really didn't earn. Yet this is still an issue. If you can't deal with one play after 11 years then that's your own problem. I wish my life was that good. Move on. I think it's time you go play your musical instrument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Offense -- score points Defense -- stop offense Is it unsportsmanlike if my defense is shutting out your offense? Should the defense just let you score to keep from "running it up"? Not much difference IMHO. Geez that's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_school_blue 247 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 This discussion confirms one thing, not all of the crazy asses in the world live in Richlands. If Union and Giles ever square off in the playoffs and we have a really weak opponent, I could see me foregoing the Richlands game for this one. Phil and Ragsdale could do the play by play and bring in Jerry Springer for the head official. P.S. - Don't take this post too seriously, I am just funning around. sportsfan, HM3-8404, 1inStripes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Yeah i'm sure that's the reason It is the reason, I know it for a fact. But you just keep believing whatever you want, just know that its wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRazor 1,147 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm not going to engage in your twos debate because I didn't experience it. Mance from the first day I heard it some 9 years ago teaches his players this: 1- offense Line up against your man and beat him and score on him if you can 2- defense Line up against your man and beat him and put him on his butt if you can I understand both sides of this. I also realize Phil was not liked by a lot of people. He did win a lot of games and was a great football coach. I did not know him personally but he must have been a very unique man....lol BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ok you dumbass answer me this....if PV punts is there any chance Giles scores 24 pts in less than 2 minutes to win the game? I haven't missed a Giles playoff game in my entire life so once again dumbass you are wrong. And you know all these FACTS? I said Giles starters played first series of 2nd half in the 2006 game didn't I? then they were pulled but you seem to know more about MY team than I do And your lovefest for Robbins is apparent....I think he is a classless lard ass...but it don't matter what either of us think. You just come on here spouting off about all the facts you seem to know and frankly you don't know crap about the Giles program....just about all you PV fans are the same(not saying all of you so people don't jump on me) Why punt and give the other team the ball when you can convert one first down and the game is over? Its not Phil's fault Giles could not tackle the WR on a little slant. I do like Phil, and you obviously hate him, so its making you come off as childish. I never got your answer to my question: Why is it okay for Giles to beat PV by 40, but when PV beats Giles by 30, its horrible sportsmanship? Giles could have punted the ball on first down, why didn't they? They were up 40 points. GILES HAS NO CLASS, THEY SHOW NO SPORTSMANSHIP. That's what you sound like right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Back to the actual topic, it'll be interesting. What is the likelihood of a Union/Central rematch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Back to the actual topic, it'll be interesting. What is the likelihood of a Union/Central rematch? I hope it happens, the Wise folk keep saying that Union was lucky to beat them, that they WANT to play Union again, that they will upset us and "shock the world" lol, so yeah I hope we play them again. I guarantee that if we play again, Union will not have three trips inside the five and get 0 points out of it. BlueRazor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I want Ridgeview to play Central again but it aint gonna happen. Honestly, I want no part of Union. Although I know some Clintwood people who do(LPD pride I guess???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I think it's time you go play your musical instrument Woah now. I'm a music major. Those kind of comments don't sit well with us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRazor 1,147 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I hope it happens, the Wise folk keep saying that Union was lucky to beat them, that they WANT to play Union again, that they will upset us and "shock the world" lol, so yeah I hope we play them again. I guarantee that if we play again, Union will not have three trips inside the five and get 0 points out of it. Big winners.....you can almost count on it. When you are having a remarkable season like you guys are having....sometime during the season you will have at least one game where you just come out flat and make mistakes or just seems like the team just doesn't show up to play and you are lucky to leave with the win. It just seems inevitable that it happens. You guys have won every game you have played and although big spreads look good on the eye test.....all that matters is a one point victory. I for one along with the Blues desperately want another shot at you guys no matter what round it is. We just have to take it one team at a time and take care of the opponent in front of you. During the playoffs its one and done and any team can beat the other no matter the favorite or records. Richlands last year at the beginning of the playoffs was not on anybody's radar and come within an overtime loss on the road of making it to Salem. Anything can and probably will happen.....lol Ryan4VT and BigWinners 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Woah now. I'm a music major. Those kind of comments don't sit well with us....Eh it's cool. As someone with a Music Ed degree and using it, I sort of take those comments with pride. Ryan4VT and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I understand both sides of this. I also realize Phil was not liked by a lot of people. He did win a lot of games and was a great football coach. I did not know him personally but he must have been a very unique man....lol Unique....hmm....that's maybe the most politically correct way to describe him...haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Woah now. I'm a music major. Those kind of comments don't sit well with us.... Sorry man Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Big winners.....you can almost count on it. When you are having a remarkable season like you guys are having....sometime during the season you will have at least one game where you just come out flat and make mistakes or just seems like the team just doesn't show up to play and you are lucky to leave with the win. It just seems inevitable that it happens. You guys have won every game you have played and although big spreads look good on the eye test.....all that matters is a one point victory. I for one along with the Blues desperately want another shot at you guys no matter what round it is. We just have to take it one team at a time and take care of the opponent in front of you. During the playoffs its one and done and any team can beat the other no matter the favorite or records. Richlands last year at the beginning of the playoffs was not on anybody's radar and come within an overtime loss on the road of making it to Salem. Anything can and probably will happen.....lol its not as much that, I understand teams wanting a shot at a team that has beaten them, but the Richlands fans have been classy about their loss, the Wise fans not so much. I am in no hurry to play the Blues again, but I damn well know it will be one of the best games in SWVA in a long time if it happens deep in the playoffs. wave316 and BlueRazor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 ********************************** UNOFFICIAL 2A WEST STANDINGS************************************** This is what I have. I'll throw up some scenarios once the VHSL releases their official numbers. 1.) Union 9-0 264 29.33333333 2.) Glenvar 9-0 250 27.77777778 3.) Appomattox 9-0 246 27.33333333 4.) Richlands 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Buckingham 8-1 228 25.33333333 6.) Giles 8-1 219 24.33333333 7.) James River 7-2 197 21.88888889 8.) Dan River 6-3 192 21.33333333 9.) Central 7-3 211 21.1 10.) Grayson 6-3 176 19.55555556 11.) Graham 4-5 171 19 12.) Gretna 4-5 165 18.33333333 13.) Martinsville 3-6 165 18.33333333 14.) Lee 5-4 164 18.22222222 15.) Ridgeview 5-4 163 18.11111111 16.) Virginia High 5-4 160 17.77777778 17.) Grundy 4-6 172 17.2 18.) Gate City 3-7 172 17.2 19.) Randolph-Henry 4-5 151 16.77777778 20.) Tazewell 3-6 141 15.66666667 21.) Chatham 3-6 140 15.55555556 22.) Lebanon 2-7 129 14.33333333 23.) Floyd County 2-7 125 13.88888889 24.) Marion Senior 1-8 108 12 25.) John S. Batle 1-8 108 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Helper is working on his cheat sheets! http://www.angelfire.com/va/vhsl/news.html Union_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionCowbells 1 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Big winners.....you can almost count on it. When you are having a remarkable season like you guys are having....sometime during the season you will have at least one game where you just come out flat and make mistakes or just seems like the team just doesn't show up to play and you are lucky to leave with the win. It just seems inevitable that it happens. You guys have won every game you have played and although big spreads look good on the eye test.....all that matters is a one point victory. I for one along with the Blues desperately want another shot at you guys no matter what round it is. We just have to take it one team at a time and take care of the opponent in front of you. During the playoffs its one and done and any team can beat the other no matter the favorite or records. Richlands last year at the beginning of the playoffs was not on anybody's radar and come within an overtime loss on the road of making it to Salem. Anything can and probably will happen.....lol My first post here as a Union supporter, and I want to say thanks for showing class on here from what has become a large atmospheric rivaly game. Not only just you, but the rest of you all as well. BlueRazor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So Central won't host a playoff game after all? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionCowbells 1 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 So Central won't host a playoff game after all? lol I was under the impression they were playing for home field advantage last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I was too, but those numbers have them at the #9 seed, which would means they would travel to the #8th seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 No, they've got a chance if Dan River loses to Altavista, but Dan River should have the 8th seed if they win next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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