sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 8 On 5/5/2024 at 6:46 PM, Weatherman said: So what schools in Southwest Virginia give extra money to coaches who win? Grayson County pays Stephen James an administrator salary of roughly $85,000 (my bad-it's apparently much higher now-see for yourself by clicking the link) to coach football while the county-wide teacher salaries are among the absolute lowest in the state. https://govsalaries.com/james-stephen-boyd-167626032 Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW23 13 Report Share Posted May 8 He sure makes a lot to not be winning anything SW_VA_boy, Hokie Bound and MMcMahon26 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickett 30 Report Share Posted May 8 This last couple of years teams the Super touted as being the best to come thru GC. Very sub par to clueless on offense. As far as the money goes wasnt one of the reasons GC petitoned to play down was financial hardship? Paying your coach 90 plus and installing a turf field? Most A/AA schools wish they had type of harship? sixcat and Hokie Bound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,875 Report Share Posted May 8 10 hours ago, sixcat said: Grayson County pays Stephen James an administrator salary of roughly $85,000 (my bad-it's apparently much higher now-see for yourself by clicking the link) to coach football while the county-wide teacher salaries are among the absolute lowest in the state. https://govsalaries.com/james-stephen-boyd-167626032 Does that count? Surely, he serves in some sort of administrative role, like A.D. or Vice Principal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 8 49 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said: Surely, he serves in some sort of administrative role, like A.D. or Vice Principal. William Anders is AD at Grayson. Temple Musser and Jerrad Blevins are the high school principal and assistant principal. I know the principals at the middle school and two elementary schools personally. He’s not one of them. According to the school website, James has no other role outside of football and weight lifting. Check it out for yourself. https://gchs.grayson.k12.va.us/en-US/staff Real Sasquatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionGuy2017 183 Report Share Posted May 8 On 5/5/2024 at 2:47 PM, redtiger said: Union QBs have never played Defense. Even the past 2 seasons with Anderson who's best position was Safety Only exception was Spears in 2015. redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokie Bound 109 Report Share Posted May 9 Its really sad if that is just for teaching and coaching. Got to be more to it than that hopefully. Those are Nick Saban type numbers. Pickett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Hokie Bound said: Its really sad if that is just for teaching and coaching. Got to be more to it than that hopefully. Those are Nick Saban type numbers. Does teaching a weight lifting class actually qualify as teaching? I'm sure other qualified teachers in the school system making half his salary would like a word. Pickett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT+h 10 Report Share Posted May 9 Stop it, all teachers are valuable! But most are gone at 330 and he and his coaches are there until 7 three nights a week and 12 or 1 am the other two. While also playing daddy, guidance counselor, bus driver, cook , custodian , field manager and many other duties - coaches earn there money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, TnT+h said: coaches earn there money! How many coaches in SWVA earn $93k without any of the classroom responsibility? Hell, how many earn $93k period? MMcMahon26, cityofRaven and Hokie Bound 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, TnT+h said: most are gone at 330 Hardly any are gone by 3:30. Parent/teacher conferences, bus duty, USDA after school food programs for underprivileged kids, after school make-up testing, SOL BS, etc. etc. etc. I don't think anybody is disparaging teachers. Teachers in Grayson County are making half the salary of the football coach and he has no responsibilities outside of football. Teachers have dozens of responsibilities on top of the ones in the classroom. You know, like, parent, guidance counselor, bus driver, cook, playground manager, and many other duties. Teachers deserve more money! If Grayson County can afford to pay the football coach $93k, they can afford to raise teacher pay so not to be among the lowest in the state. cityofRaven, Union_Fan, JDHoss and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT+h 10 Report Share Posted May 9 I come from a family of teachers so yes all teachers deserve more for sure! But in Virginia it is paid by county, so unless you are one of the Tofu eating faires that make the decisions on money ..... shut up or move to another county! redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 17 minutes ago, TnT+h said: unless you are one of the Tofu eating faires that make the decisions on money ..... shut up or move to another county! BandanaVTDavis4321 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMcMahon26 13 Report Share Posted May 9 When does the James hire at GC start looking like a bad one? They win more than they did previously, but they’re not paying him that much to go 8-2 and go out in the second round. I think if they were going to win it all, last year was the year. This year’s team likely won’t be as good as last year’s, and as it turned out, last year’s team wasn’t great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 Do they win more than they did previously? They were playing in Class 2 under the previous coaching staff. Drop any D2 team down to Class 1. How much more successful would they be? A team like Tazewell would contend for a state championship. In my opinion, GC is a mediocre Class 2 program competing in Class 1. But that's just my opinion. SW_VA_boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMcMahon26 13 Report Share Posted May 9 6 minutes ago, sixcat said: Do they win more than they did previously? They were playing in Class 2 under the previous coaching staff. In my opinion, they are a mediocre Class 2 program competing in Class 1. But that's just my opinion. Yeah, I guess they’re more consistent. There were some two and three win seasons under the last staff, and now they have back to back 8-0 starts, but little to no postseason success. I know that the opinions of the people in GC that are very important are still thrilled to have him, but as an outsider, I think it hasn’t gone that great for them, and I don’t think it’s getting better soon. How much longer do you think he has to turn things around in the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 38 minutes ago, MMcMahon26 said: Yeah, I guess they’re more consistent. There were some two and three win seasons under the last staff, and now they have back to back 8-0 starts, but little to no postseason success. I know that the opinions of the people in GC that are very important are still thrilled to have him, but as an outsider, I think it hasn’t gone that great for them, and I don’t think it’s getting better soon. How much longer do you think he has to turn things around in the playoffs? I would counter "more consistent" with "it's easier to be consistent playing Class 1 competition as a Class 2 sized school" but that's neither here nor there. Full disclosure, I graduated from Grayson in the 90's. Most of my family members did as well, including a current D1 athlete competing in the ACC. I have no insight into James' relationship with administration in GC. I do know the superintendent a little. He's.......quite something. I'll leave it at that. Word around town is, he's looking to retire within the next 5 or so years. I can't imaging future administrators are going to want to keep a football coach around at that salary that doesn't keep pace with the rival program down the street. MMcMahon26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW23 13 Report Share Posted May 9 Does GC return a lot? Or did they graduate most of the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 9 13 minutes ago, KW23 said: Does GC return a lot? Or did they graduate most of the team? Return a couple of good players but graduate most of the team. I don't see them being as good as they have been in the past two seasons. It's hard to imagine them being a .500 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW23 13 Report Share Posted May 9 Great cause both my teams Alleghany NC and Rural Retreat play them this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickett 30 Report Share Posted May 10 Sixcat per a couple of assistants the head coach is weightlifting coach by title only.....his assistant who followed him from PC (Anders?) is actually providing the instruction, not sure what HC is doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW_VA_boy 495 Report Share Posted May 11 On 5/9/2024 at 12:54 PM, sixcat said: Do they win more than they did previously? They were playing in Class 2 under the previous coaching staff. Drop any D2 team down to Class 1. How much more successful would they be? A team like Tazewell would contend for a state championship. In my opinion, GC is a mediocre Class 2 program competing in Class 1. But that's just my opinion. Should've been in the Three Rivers District since 1994. sixcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickett 30 Report Share Posted May 13 Would definitely agree up to @ 2008 when GC enrollment began to nosedive. The MED since that time has been pretty solid all around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,942 Author Report Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Pickett said: Would definitely agree up to @ 2008 when GC enrollment began to nosedive. The MED since that time has been pretty solid all around I don't think anyone is disparaging the MED. It's more an issue with GC petitioning to play down several times over the past 30 years. Future enrollment will likely justify them being in Class 1 but they squarely fall within Class 2 parameters right now and petitioned VHSL to play down in Class 1. When the New River District dissolved, the Three Rivers District should have been the AA district and the MED the A district but again, GC fought to remain in the MED so they could play smaller schools. As for the nosedive in Grayson County enrollment, county leaders have made misstep after misstep in county management dating back to the 90's. It's not a coincidence that the county population is getting significantly older and speaks with a northern accent. As more and more transplants retire to Grayson County, locals with families needing employment will continue to be priced out (see Avery County, NC). Local families will continue to relocate and GC school enrollment will continue to shrink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,875 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:24 PM On 5/2/2024 at 5:28 PM, sixcat said: Title says it all. Let’s hear those offseason changes around the region. I’ll get us started. Tony Palmer has apparently hired the Bluefield University DC and Snake appears to be in his way out. Per a buddy of mine...from the School Board meeting last night.....Randy Sparks is listed as the Athletic Director for Graham in the fall. Devontae Royal (from Bluefield University) is listed as a volunteer. Snake Palmer is listed as assistant coach along with Mike Horton, Cliff Bradshaw and Rex Bradshaw. The other volunteers look to be pretty much the same as last season. Tazewell's coaches look to be nearly the same as last season. Richlands assistants were listed as Terry Barret, Eric Phipps, Jordan Seals and Brannon Breeding and Bobby Adkins as a volunteer - so at least the RHS folks can see that some of the pieces for the football staff are coming together. I'm sure some more assistants may be named later as that information becomes available. Irishman and CPF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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