GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Bluefield's starters play only a half, back-ups/JV/middle school cleans up the second half. Why is this game even scheduled...a complete mismatch...the ADs at both schools should be ashamed of themselves... starcityfootballfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_fan 91 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 So what day is Graham playing? Thursday or Saturday? EH31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Tazewell wins by a field goal as time expires... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 My prediction: cityofRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,557 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, swva_fan said: So what day is Graham playing? Thursday or Saturday? Believe I saw somewhere that Graham is playing Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 This year's contest wont be close. With that said, a couple years from now we MAY be saying the same thing with Tazewell winning big. For the last two years Tazewell's hold backs in MS has smoked Bluefield. This year's MS team was beating Bluefield 35-0 at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Not sure what led them to schedule this game but they both must have needed it in order for it to happen. I think it's been around 20 years since these two have met on the football field. I believe this game is going to be played on Thursday 9/21 at Mitchell. Not sure why but every schedule I've seen shows 9/21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 483 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Tazewell and Bluefield play on Thursday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Played on Thursday because Graham is home on Friday and it is Graham's turn to pick what day to play. Graham picked Friday so Bluefield plays Thursday. Next time there is a conflict Bluefield chooses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz9 71 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Freddy won't hold back until the 3rd quarter. To much talent vs young team. Final 63-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Bluefield's third team is better than Tazewell. That would be the only reason 63 gets put on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Bluefield researcher said: Bluefield's third team is better than Tazewell. That would be the only reason 63 gets put on the board. That, and Freddy likes to RUTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 2:13 PM, UVAObserver said: That, and Freddy likes to RUTS. Also has I saw two weeks ago, I'm sure WV refs will help that fact... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 2:13 PM, UVAObserver said: That, and Freddy likes to RUTS. Freddy told you that personally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, bhs7695 said: Freddy told you that personally? If a team keeps airing the ball out late in the 4th quarter with the score in the 60s and 70s, against multiple opponents, in multiple decades, I'm going to make the logical tiptoe that the coach takes happiness in running up the score on his opponents. It's not a coincidence that Bluefield has a hard time finding opponents. Hint: it's not just because Bluefield is good. I'd have a lot more respect for Bluefield's fans if they just owned it. "Yeah, Freddy really didn't need to score 86 on Wyoming East, or hang 70 in a state title game, or throw a last second TD pass on Graham to hang 76 on them and set an all-time scoring record against them." The complete inability for Bluefield's fans to achknowledge this decades-long "tradition" is just bizarre. starcityfootballfan and bgibb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgibb 207 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, UVAObserver said: If a team keeps airing the ball out late in the 4th quarter with the score in the 60s and 70s, against multiple opponents, in multiple decades, I'm going to make the logical tiptoe that the coach takes happiness in running up the score on his opponents. It's not a coincidence that Bluefield has a hard time finding opponents. Hint: it's not just because Bluefield is good. I'd have a lot more respect for Bluefield's fans if they just owned it. "Yeah, Freddy really didn't need to score 86 on Wyoming East, or hang 70 in a state title game, or throw a last second TD pass on Graham to hang 76 on them and set an all-time scoring record against them." The complete inability for Bluefield's fans to achknowledge this decades-long "tradition" is just bizarre. This is 100% the truth. Teams don't drop Bluefield because they are good, they drop Bluefield because they run up the score and don't show any class when they win. Richlands has been great for awhile now and you don't see teams dropping them from their schedules like you do Bluefield, because you won't see Mance run up the score when the opponent is clearly out matched. It is a yearly struggle for Bluefield to fill their schedule and in some cases when they don't and only have 9 games on the schedule they wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Respect goes both ways my friends. In 2013 when Graham was getting pounded they left their starters in against Bluefield's last team. Coach Williams did not ever honor Bluefield's sportsmanship by removing his starters. Graham starters scored three TD's in the last 3:37 against Bluefield's 9th and 10th graders. All TD passes and went for 2 after each one even though Bluefield took a knee on the XP after their 9th grader scored. Then coach Williams gets on TV and states how proud he is to drop 38 points on Bluefield. Next year coach Simon did not remove his starters and put up 76. Neither should have happened but you have to tell both sides. In 2002 Wyoming East was pissed that one of their starters got thrown out of the game on what was a wrong decision. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders kept scoring in the third quarter. These players were so good that they played in 4 straight championship games. Kevin Grogg was so frustrated that he decided to implement the rule that allows you to kick to other team when THEY score. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders ran the basic offense and continued to score while coach Grogg pouted. Same can be said for the 2004 championship game vs Wayne. When Bluefield removed starters in the 3rd Quarter Wayne continued to throw long bombs and kick on side kicks. Bluefield put back in the starters and let them play. In the 4th quarters the back ups were allowed to play. But again, Wayne did not honor Bluefield removing their starters by removing theirs. They continued to throw deep and kick onside against Bluefield's 2nd team. Before you go throwing stones put on your big boy pants and look in the mirror. Friday, 08-30-2013 at Mitchell Stadium, Bluefield, WV 1 2 3 4 F Graham G-Men (0-1) 0 6 8 24 38 coach Mike Williams Bluefield Beavers (1-0) 14 20 14 12 60 coach Fred Simon 1st 5:13 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 7-0 1:23 Blue Corey Coppola 4 yd run (Francesco Desidario kick) 14-0 2nd 8:18 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 21-0 6:46 Blue D. J. Edwards 2 yd run (kick failed) 27-0 3:17 Graham Dylan Cook 9 yd run (pass failed) 27-6 1:32 Blue D. J. Edwards 20 yd pss from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 34-6 Desiderio kick) 3rd 8:32 Blue Brandon Lilly 20 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 41-6 Desiderio kick) 6:39 Graham Charlie Benfield 38 yd run (Bryce Harris pass from Colby Hill) 41-14 1:37 Blue D. J. Edwards 27 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 48-14 Desiderio kick) 4th 5:00 Blue Carlos Reed 5 yd run (kneel down) 54-14 3:37 Graham Bryce Farris 16 yd pass from Colby Hill (Bryce Farris pass 54-22 Colby Hill) 2:10 Graham Bryce Farris 37 yd pass from Colby Hill (Colby Hill run) 54-30 Blue Carlos Reed 53 yd run (run failed) 60-30 0:45 Graham Charlie Benfield 44 yd pass from Colby Hill (Dequan Booker 60-38 pass from Colby Hill) Mountain Football and bhs7695 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 For the past 23 years, I've seen more Bluefield games than Graham games. Freddie isn't afraid to score a ton of points, but many times, most of those points scored later in blowouts are by the 2nd/3rd teamers. When he puts them in, he continues to call his regular offense...and against weaker teams, yes, even the back-ups are as good or better than the starters on the weaker team. However, if/when they do score in a blowout, 9 times out of 10, Freddie has them take a knee on the PAT. The only time I've ever seen him keep the starters in long after they should have been done for the night is during the playoffs and/or if he has an axe to grind (see Wyoming East) and against some rivals. bhs7695 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 56 minutes ago, Bluefield researcher said: Respect goes both ways my friends. In 2013 when Graham was getting pounded they left their starters in against Bluefield's last team. Coach Williams did not ever honor Bluefield's sportsmanship by removing his starters. Graham starters scored three TD's in the last 3:37 against Bluefield's 9th and 10th graders. All TD passes and went for 2 after each one even though Bluefield took a knee on the XP after their 9th grader scored. Then coach Williams gets on TV and states how proud he is to drop 38 points on Bluefield. Next year coach Simon did not remove his starters and put up 76. Neither should have happened but you have to tell both sides. In 2002 Wyoming East was pissed that one of their starters got thrown out of the game on what was a wrong decision. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders kept scoring in the third quarter. These players were so good that they played in 4 straight championship games. Kevin Grogg was so frustrated that he decided to implement the rule that allows you to kick to other team when THEY score. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders ran the basic offense and continued to score while coach Grogg pouted. Same can be said for the 2004 championship game vs Wayne. When Bluefield removed starters in the 3rd Quarter Wayne continued to throw long bombs and kick on side kicks. Bluefield put back in the starters and let them play. In the 4th quarters the back ups were allowed to play. But again, Wayne did not honor Bluefield removing their starters by removing theirs. They continued to throw deep and kick onside against Bluefield's 2nd team. Before you go throwing stones put on your big boy pants and look in the mirror. Friday, 08-30-2013 at Mitchell Stadium, Bluefield, WV 1 2 3 4 F Graham G-Men (0-1) 0 6 8 24 38 coach Mike Williams Bluefield Beavers (1-0) 14 20 14 12 60 coach Fred Simon 1st 5:13 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 7-0 1:23 Blue Corey Coppola 4 yd run (Francesco Desidario kick) 14-0 2nd 8:18 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 21-0 6:46 Blue D. J. Edwards 2 yd run (kick failed) 27-0 3:17 Graham Dylan Cook 9 yd run (pass failed) 27-6 1:32 Blue D. J. Edwards 20 yd pss from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 34-6 Desiderio kick) 3rd 8:32 Blue Brandon Lilly 20 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 41-6 Desiderio kick) 6:39 Graham Charlie Benfield 38 yd run (Bryce Harris pass from Colby Hill) 41-14 1:37 Blue D. J. Edwards 27 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 48-14 Desiderio kick) 4th 5:00 Blue Carlos Reed 5 yd run (kneel down) 54-14 3:37 Graham Bryce Farris 16 yd pass from Colby Hill (Bryce Farris pass 54-22 Colby Hill) 2:10 Graham Bryce Farris 37 yd pass from Colby Hill (Colby Hill run) 54-30 Blue Carlos Reed 53 yd run (run failed) 60-30 0:45 Graham Charlie Benfield 44 yd pass from Colby Hill (Dequan Booker 60-38 pass from Colby Hill) That can't be right. Farris and Booker played for Richlands! :) GMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluefield researcher said: Respect goes both ways my friends. In 2013 when Graham was getting pounded they left their starters in against Bluefield's last team. Coach Williams did not ever honor Bluefield's sportsmanship by removing his starters. Graham starters scored three TD's in the last 3:37 against Bluefield's 9th and 10th graders. All TD passes and went for 2 after each one even though Bluefield took a knee on the XP after their 9th grader scored. Then coach Williams gets on TV and states how proud he is to drop 38 points on Bluefield. Next year coach Simon did not remove his starters and put up 76. Neither should have happened but you have to tell both sides. In 2002 Wyoming East was pissed that one of their starters got thrown out of the game on what was a wrong decision. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders kept scoring in the third quarter. These players were so good that they played in 4 straight championship games. Kevin Grogg was so frustrated that he decided to implement the rule that allows you to kick to other team when THEY score. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders ran the basic offense and continued to score while coach Grogg pouted. Same can be said for the 2004 championship game vs Wayne. When Bluefield removed starters in the 3rd Quarter Wayne continued to throw long bombs and kick on side kicks. Bluefield put back in the starters and let them play. In the 4th quarters the back ups were allowed to play. But again, Wayne did not honor Bluefield removing their starters by removing theirs. They continued to throw deep and kick onside against Bluefield's 2nd team. Before you go throwing stones put on your big boy pants and look in the mirror. Friday, 08-30-2013 at Mitchell Stadium, Bluefield, WV 1 2 3 4 F Graham G-Men (0-1) 0 6 8 24 38 coach Mike Williams Bluefield Beavers (1-0) 14 20 14 12 60 coach Fred Simon 1st 5:13 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 7-0 1:23 Blue Corey Coppola 4 yd run (Francesco Desidario kick) 14-0 2nd 8:18 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 21-0 6:46 Blue D. J. Edwards 2 yd run (kick failed) 27-0 3:17 Graham Dylan Cook 9 yd run (pass failed) 27-6 1:32 Blue D. J. Edwards 20 yd pss from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 34-6 Desiderio kick) 3rd 8:32 Blue Brandon Lilly 20 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 41-6 Desiderio kick) 6:39 Graham Charlie Benfield 38 yd run (Bryce Harris pass from Colby Hill) 41-14 1:37 Blue D. J. Edwards 27 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 48-14 Desiderio kick) 4th 5:00 Blue Carlos Reed 5 yd run (kneel down) 54-14 3:37 Graham Bryce Farris 16 yd pass from Colby Hill (Bryce Farris pass 54-22 Colby Hill) 2:10 Graham Bryce Farris 37 yd pass from Colby Hill (Colby Hill run) 54-30 Blue Carlos Reed 53 yd run (run failed) 60-30 0:45 Graham Charlie Benfield 44 yd pass from Colby Hill (Dequan Booker 60-38 pass from Colby Hill) You make some very good points but...... once you mentioned "Coach Williams" that automatically puts you on ESPN'S segment of COME ON MAN!! LOL EH31 and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluefield researcher said: Respect goes both ways my friends. In 2013 when Graham was getting pounded they left their starters in against Bluefield's last team. Coach Williams did not ever honor Bluefield's sportsmanship by removing his starters. Graham starters scored three TD's in the last 3:37 against Bluefield's 9th and 10th graders. All TD passes and went for 2 after each one even though Bluefield took a knee on the XP after their 9th grader scored. Then coach Williams gets on TV and states how proud he is to drop 38 points on Bluefield. Next year coach Simon did not remove his starters and put up 76. Neither should have happened but you have to tell both sides. In 2002 Wyoming East was pissed that one of their starters got thrown out of the game on what was a wrong decision. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders kept scoring in the third quarter. These players were so good that they played in 4 straight championship games. Kevin Grogg was so frustrated that he decided to implement the rule that allows you to kick to other team when THEY score. Bluefield 9th and 10th graders ran the basic offense and continued to score while coach Grogg pouted. Same can be said for the 2004 championship game vs Wayne. When Bluefield removed starters in the 3rd Quarter Wayne continued to throw long bombs and kick on side kicks. Bluefield put back in the starters and let them play. In the 4th quarters the back ups were allowed to play. But again, Wayne did not honor Bluefield removing their starters by removing theirs. They continued to throw deep and kick onside against Bluefield's 2nd team. Before you go throwing stones put on your big boy pants and look in the mirror. Friday, 08-30-2013 at Mitchell Stadium, Bluefield, WV 1 2 3 4 F Graham G-Men (0-1) 0 6 8 24 38 coach Mike Williams Bluefield Beavers (1-0) 14 20 14 12 60 coach Fred Simon 1st 5:13 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 7-0 1:23 Blue Corey Coppola 4 yd run (Francesco Desidario kick) 14-0 2nd 8:18 Blue D. J. Stewart 3 yd run (Francesco Desiderio kick) 21-0 6:46 Blue D. J. Edwards 2 yd run (kick failed) 27-0 3:17 Graham Dylan Cook 9 yd run (pass failed) 27-6 1:32 Blue D. J. Edwards 20 yd pss from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 34-6 Desiderio kick) 3rd 8:32 Blue Brandon Lilly 20 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 41-6 Desiderio kick) 6:39 Graham Charlie Benfield 38 yd run (Bryce Harris pass from Colby Hill) 41-14 1:37 Blue D. J. Edwards 27 yd pass from R. J. Bourne (Francesco 48-14 Desiderio kick) 4th 5:00 Blue Carlos Reed 5 yd run (kneel down) 54-14 3:37 Graham Bryce Farris 16 yd pass from Colby Hill (Bryce Farris pass 54-22 Colby Hill) 2:10 Graham Bryce Farris 37 yd pass from Colby Hill (Colby Hill run) 54-30 Blue Carlos Reed 53 yd run (run failed) 60-30 0:45 Graham Charlie Benfield 44 yd pass from Colby Hill (Dequan Booker 60-38 pass from Colby Hill) Graham was playing for pride and self-respect in that 2nd half. I don't think anyone could (or would, or should) blame them for not laying down and just accepting a vicious beating. It is each team's job to score, isn't it? The problem comes on that last drive. You're up by 3 scores with under a minute on the clock. Decency dictates that you kneel to end the game. Being a jackass dictates that you keep gunning for a TD, because you're butthurt that another team is, *gasp*, trying to actually play 60 full minutes. I actually think it was decent of Graham not to woodshed Bluefield in 2016 worse than they already did. I know were I Coach Palmer, I would have had a hard time not trying to hit 100 after that garbage stunt Bluefield pulled in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 So the losing team is allowed to play 48 minutes but the winning team is not? I get it now. Bluefield's 9th graders have to take a knee while Graham's starters go deep. Hokiebird7 and bhs7695 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I will stay mute on this argument until I can personally verify what happens thurs night. It has been 20 years since played and have only ever watched Bluefield once in person and Graham beat them somewhere around 15 yrs ago. All I want to see is our boys play hard and tough again and IF this thread holds true for our guys not to get disheartened and play to their best and keep building. Bulldogs52, Motorhead 5150, Bluefield researcher and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 483 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Last time we played Bluefield was my Senior year 97/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcityfootballfan 517 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 7:40 AM, GMan said: Bluefield's starters play only a half, back-ups/JV/middle school cleans up the second half. Why is this game even scheduled...a complete mismatch...the ADs at both schools should be ashamed of themselves... Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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